brothers can anybody help me on this, i know the difference between a sunni and a wahabee for example the belief of the prhets parents beings muslims, the belief of haazir naazir the belief of milaad but can anybody tell me the difference between these shaitaans wahabi, duobandi and ahle hadees, please can u put in simple terms not to complicated, when i say difference i dunt mean appearence cuz i know that the ahle hadees look like bears and sunnis like muslims but im talking aqeeda wise. please if anybody can help my dua will be with them. jazakallah.
wasalaam
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the difference between ahleay hedees, wahabi, duobandi?
Posted 01 March 2006 - 03:47 PM (#1)
OR TUM PAR MERAY AKA KI INAAYAAT HO NA SAHI!
NAJDIYO KALMA PARANEY KA BI AHESAAN GYA
(ala hazrat imaam raza khan *****)
NAJDIYO KALMA PARANEY KA BI AHESAAN GYA
(ala hazrat imaam raza khan *****)
Posted 01 March 2006 - 03:51 PM (#2)
Asslamualaikum,
Put simply , the tabs and deos are 50% wabbi's
Put simply , the tabs and deos are 50% wabbi's
Lo! Allah and His angels shower blessings on the Prophet. O ye who believe! Ask blessings on him and salute him with a worthy salutation.
(Surah Al-Ahzab , Verse 56)
salaat u salaam alaika Ya Rasool Allah
salaat u salaam alaika Ya Habib Allah
(Surah Al-Ahzab , Verse 56)
salaat u salaam alaika Ya Rasool Allah
salaat u salaam alaika Ya Habib Allah
Posted 01 March 2006 - 03:55 PM (#3)
yeah jazakhallah but can u tell me their aqeeda like wot deobandis whabees and ahle hadees say bout prphets parents and milaad. i know one thing that shias dunt respect the sahabaa but celebrate milaad so i want to know the differences as this would really help shukriya.
salaam
salaam
OR TUM PAR MERAY AKA KI INAAYAAT HO NA SAHI!
NAJDIYO KALMA PARANEY KA BI AHESAAN GYA
(ala hazrat imaam raza khan *****)
NAJDIYO KALMA PARANEY KA BI AHESAAN GYA
(ala hazrat imaam raza khan *****)
Posted 01 March 2006 - 04:46 PM (#4)
Brother Ayyaz,
The Deobandis are the cousins of Wahhabis/Najdis. They cleverly disguise their Wahhabi beliefs under the cloak of Sunnism, by calling themselves Hanafis and Sufis.
In terms of Aqeeda, they admire the Holy Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) only to a certain extent. Their books are filled with statements disrespecting Nabi (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam). They also prohibit the celebration of Mawlid and their elders view it as similar to the celebration of Hindu idols.
The Deobandis are the cousins of Wahhabis/Najdis. They cleverly disguise their Wahhabi beliefs under the cloak of Sunnism, by calling themselves Hanafis and Sufis.
In terms of Aqeeda, they admire the Holy Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) only to a certain extent. Their books are filled with statements disrespecting Nabi (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam). They also prohibit the celebration of Mawlid and their elders view it as similar to the celebration of Hindu idols.
Posted 01 March 2006 - 06:37 PM (#5)
the difference between Wahabis and deobandi is that while deobandis follow the madhab [schools of thought and 4 sufi tariqas, atleast that's what they say actually there are types of deobandis, one more closer to sunni while the other is more closer to salafis] the wahabis don't, ahle hadith is another name for wahabis they also deny the belief in fiqa
woh jo na the to kuch bhi na that, woh jo na ho toh kuch bhi na ho, jaan hai woh jahaan ki, jaan hai toh jahaan hai.. for authentic sunni books please email me on: ksumra@hotmail.com
Posted 26 March 2006 - 03:33 AM (#6)
SaLam ALL,
Everyone Said that Deobandi Dont Celebrete The MiLaad That is The Main Difference i think....Hmmm I thinK Hazrat Abu Baker(Ra) Celebreted This ?..No Hmm Soo Hazrat Umer-e-Farooq(ra) Celebreted THis ?..Ohh No Acha Soo Hazrat Usman-o-ALi(ra) Bhi Nahi Hmmmm....Well This is a HistoricaL Fact Otherwise Can Anyone Make me See That The Four RIghtly Giuded Khulfa-e-Rashdeen(ra) Ever Celebrete The MiLaad ?..Or Can Anyone Say That i m a Bigger Sacha Ashiq-e-RasooL Hazrat Mohammad(Saww) Then KhuLfa-e-Rashdeen(Ra) Thats y i Keep Celebreting MiLad...?Was SaLam
Umer,
Everyone Said that Deobandi Dont Celebrete The MiLaad That is The Main Difference i think....Hmmm I thinK Hazrat Abu Baker(Ra) Celebreted This ?..No Hmm Soo Hazrat Umer-e-Farooq(ra) Celebreted THis ?..Ohh No Acha Soo Hazrat Usman-o-ALi(ra) Bhi Nahi Hmmmm....Well This is a HistoricaL Fact Otherwise Can Anyone Make me See That The Four RIghtly Giuded Khulfa-e-Rashdeen(ra) Ever Celebrete The MiLaad ?..Or Can Anyone Say That i m a Bigger Sacha Ashiq-e-RasooL Hazrat Mohammad(Saww) Then KhuLfa-e-Rashdeen(Ra) Thats y i Keep Celebreting MiLad...?Was SaLam
Umer,
Always Say
Yaa ALLaH MaDaD
Yaa ALLaH MaDaD
Posted 26 March 2006 - 04:22 AM (#7)
Assalamualaikum Brothers and Sisters of Imaan and Islam,
Brother Umer - I think you are starting to change this thread to one about the permissability of Milaad Sharif! I think you should refer to the following links:
http://www.islam786....miladannabi.htm
You seem to be confused on the status of Milaad Sharif - The Blessed Prophet of all Prophets, The Kind of all Prophets, The Noor of the Universe, The Reason for our Creation, The Master of Medina Sharif, The Beloved of Allah SWT, The Reason for our Creation, Hazrat Muhammad
himself celebrated His own Blessed Birth and here you say that it is an innovation to do so?
I hope the links above and the aforementioned fact allows you to correct and strengthen your aqidah and allo you to the Love the Greatest of Mankind
as much as you can with all your heart and the n you will be on the path to salvation and success.
Wassalam,
Shahban
Brother Umer - I think you are starting to change this thread to one about the permissability of Milaad Sharif! I think you should refer to the following links:
http://www.islam786....miladannabi.htm
You seem to be confused on the status of Milaad Sharif - The Blessed Prophet of all Prophets, The Kind of all Prophets, The Noor of the Universe, The Reason for our Creation, The Master of Medina Sharif, The Beloved of Allah SWT, The Reason for our Creation, Hazrat Muhammad
himself celebrated His own Blessed Birth and here you say that it is an innovation to do so?I hope the links above and the aforementioned fact allows you to correct and strengthen your aqidah and allo you to the Love the Greatest of Mankind
as much as you can with all your heart and the n you will be on the path to salvation and success.Wassalam,
Shahban
"You were born with wings, why prefer to crawl through life?" ~ Rumi
Posted 26 March 2006 - 04:23 AM (#8)
it is simple, they are wahabis like the rest
as someone said above and as was Ala Hazrat's statement:
Ahl-e-Hadith ghair muqallid wahabi hein aur yei muqallad wahabi hein.
Ahl-e-hadith dont follow one of the four Imams of Fiqh
whereas deobandis supposedly do taqleed of Imam Azam Abu Hanifah
. But the 'aqaid are the same.
-both ghustakhs, both wahabis.
as someone said above and as was Ala Hazrat's statement:
Ahl-e-Hadith ghair muqallid wahabi hein aur yei muqallad wahabi hein.
Ahl-e-hadith dont follow one of the four Imams of Fiqh
whereas deobandis supposedly do taqleed of Imam Azam Abu Hanifah
. But the 'aqaid are the same.-both ghustakhs, both wahabis.
apni millat par qiyas aqwam-e-maghrib sei na kar, khas hei tarkeeb mein qawm-e-Rasool-e-Hashmi
ei biradar chu 'aqibat khakast, khaak shawesh az ankei khaak shawee
jarahat al-sinani laha'l-tiyamu ma yaltamu jarahat al-lisani
ei biradar chu 'aqibat khakast, khaak shawesh az ankei khaak shawee
jarahat al-sinani laha'l-tiyamu ma yaltamu jarahat al-lisani
Posted 26 March 2006 - 04:51 AM (#9)
SaLam ALL,Everyone Said that Deobandi Dont Celebrete The MiLaad That is The Main Difference i think....Hmmm I thinK Hazrat Abu Baker(Ra) Celebreted This ?..No Hmm Soo Hazrat Umer-e-Farooq(ra) Celebreted THis ?..Ohh No Acha Soo Hazrat Usman-o-ALi(ra) Bhi Nahi Hmmmm....Well This is a HistoricaL Fact Otherwise Can Anyone Make me See That The Four RIghtly Giuded Khulfa-e-Rashdeen(ra) Ever Celebrete The MiLaad ?..Or Can Anyone Say That i m a Bigger Sacha Ashiq-e-RasooL Hazrat Mohammad(Saww) Then KhuLfa-e-Rashdeen(Ra) Thats y i Keep Celebreting MiLad...?Was SaLamUmer,
The speech "Hidayat ya Gumrahi" available here
http://www.nooremadinah.net/MediaLibrary/MediaLSearch.asp?txtSpeaker=Hazrat%20Allama%20Abdul%20Sattar%20Hamdani
by Hazrat Allama Abdul Sattar Hamdani Damatbarkatahumul Aliya give us a good understanding where the difference between
Ahlesunnat
and the newly borned (deviated) sects lie.
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# Aur koyi ghaib kyaa TUM se nihaa ho bhalaa Jub na KHUDA hee chupaa TUMPEY karoro Durood #(Azzavajal va Sallallaahu alayhiva sallaam)
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