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Posted 19 February 2007 - 03:45 PM (#1) User is offline   Maria-Qadri 

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Asalam u alikum wa rehmatullahi wa barkatuh.

Hope my brothers and sisters are fine by the grace of Almighty Allah.May Allah ta'ala bless all of us with lots of happiness in both the worlds...ameen.

I have few questions ...

1.Why is it necessary to take permission from your shaykh before starting a wazeefa(when the Wazeefas has some Allah ta'ala's name)Whats the need for permission ?

2.For what kind of wazeefas should one take permission?

3.What about one who doesnt have any shaykh?Cant he/she start any wazeefa?

4.What if one didnt take permission before starting a wazeefa?
(I heard that some ppl go mad on reading some strong wazeefas without taking permission)

I hope to see the replies

Allah hafiz.
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 01:54 PM (#2) User is offline   MMM 

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Wa Alaikum Assalaam Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakaatuhu,

First of all, one should never request or seek permission for a Wazifah from their Shaykh. The reason is that if you are unable to oblige their advise regularly, it will be regarded as disobedience. You should only ask them to pray for you and should read the Wazifah they have advised you of, again, donot ask them to recommend you a Wazifah.

Their presence and prayers are enough for you. All you need to do is Tasawwur-e-Shaykh. This is best for you. My Shaykh once said that the best of all Wazifah is Durood Shareef, you donot need anything else. I know people who have achieved spiritual statuses that many may deny with the Blessings of reciting Durood Shareef regularly.

If your Shaykh has advised you with a Wazifah, then that, Tasawwur-e-Shaykh and Durood Shareef are enough, Insha Allah Azzawajal!

Going a bit off topic, some people fix a particular time for the above but feel it very hard and a burden upon themselves because they start from a huge number. If an amount is not specified by your Shaykh, then the best way is to start from a small number like three, the first week, then gradually increase the number, weekly, so that the Nafs gets used to it and doesnot see it as a burden and will not form an hindrance in the future, Insha Allah!

Similarly, with Tasawwur-e-Shaykh, if your Shaykh's Shijrah says one hour daily, then you should not shoot off from the first day itself if you are afraid of being irregular because your Nafs will burden your heart and mind and will form an hindrance. Start from one minute and increase a minute weekly.

It is very essential for a disciple or Saalik to understand that amount is not the key to success in spirituality, regularity is. Being regular is a quality and we all know that quantity doesnot matter if there is no quality. Your employer will not oblige you for working late if you arrive late for work or take day-offs, he will appreciat your punctuality and this will be your success to promotions, in spirituality, increase in status.

Aa'lahazrat Rahmatullah Alaih state that you should halt every Wazifah and should read the only ones your Shaykh advise you. Though, it is permissible to seek permission for any from your Shaykh.

Because, a patient never asks the doctor to give him a medicine and neither does he requests permission from him for a particular one. The doctor diagnoses and will only prescribe any, if required. It will be regarded as over-efficient. Your Shaykh knows what you need, they will tell you, you donot need to ask for it or seek particular permissions for any.

Originally posted by: Maria Qadri
1.Why is it necessary to take permission from your shaykh before starting a wazeefa(when the Wazeefas has some Allah ta'ala's name)Whats the need for permission ?

A Wazifah holds special spiritual powers and essences which reflect upon the heart. Your Shaykh receive Noor spiritually from their Mashaikh, they from theirs and The Holy Prophet distribute this to the Mashaikh, they receive it from Allah Azzawajal. It is a constant flow of spiritual energy, you might say 24/7 to make yourself understand.

The Divine Noor of Allah Azzawajal Descends upon The Holy Prophet and they distribute it to the Mashaikh and the Mashaikh as a mediation to their followers. If this Divine Noor would have Descended Directly upon us, our end would be similar to the Mountain of Tur i.e. ash.

To make it clearer, your house requires electricity. Where does it comes from? Lets take note of it.

In Pakistan, Tarbela Dam produces raw electricity. This is not suitable to provide electricity to a house, it will blow the fuse and bulbs. This has to be refined and brought to a very low level, this is done by plants built on these places. The electricity from these plants are carried to cities, towns and districts. Every area has a transformer which distributes electricty required by each house, accordingly. Then, some houses also use stabilizers, which stops harmful and excess flow of electricity that can ruin the functionality of the appliances.

Similarly, this is how spiritual energy flows to us through our Mashaikh. The ones who wish to take it directly, then let them go and take it from Tarbela Dam, firstly, they won't get it and even if they do, they won't leave a mark of their existance after that.

Data Sahab Rahmatullah Alaih are a the plant of spiritual energy in Pakistan, similarly, Khwaja Sahab Rahmatullah Alaih are of Hindustan. This energy is recieved by their representatives in every state and they act as transformers. Then these Mashaikh have Khulufa who are stabilizers and let the flow of spiritual energy to a particular disciple appropriately because not all are capable of absorbing a huge amount.

There is a specific spiritual nature of every substance. Some may suit a disciple and some may not while others may require filtering. If the disciple informs his Shaykh, the Shaykh will only let flow that amount of energy which the discple requires and can handle. This is why it is necessary to seek permission.

Where there is spiritual benefit, other qualities which are already present in the reader are acquired in excess similar to an over-dose of a medicine which is capable to cure but will not if taken more than prescribed.

For e.g. The Wird of the Ayah-tul-Kareemah is Jalali in nature. I know a discple of my Shaykh who are short-tempered. My Shaykh advised them to read this Wazifah with sugar on their tongue to negate the effect of Jalal in it. Sugar is sweet in nature and the spirituality present in it is also sweet.

Originally posted by: Maria Qadri
2.For what kind of wazeefas should one take permission?

You can take permission for any sort of Wazifah but like I said earlier, you donot need to. If your Shaykh advise you some, that is best for you and if your Shaykh donot advise any, then that is best for you.

Practise being regular with your obligatory duties and Sunnah. Also, be regular in reciting Durood Shareef and performing Tasawwur-e-Shaykh, you donot need to recite a Wazifah if you are not asked to, by your Shaykh.

This is why one is advised to seek a Shaykh because the ones without any stray from one to another seeking permissions for Wazifah while the fact is that you donot need to recite any or volunteer for any if you have a Shaykh, their Blessed presence suffices you and provides you with the adequate spirituality required.

Originally posted by: Maria Qadri
3.What about one who doesnt have any shaykh?Cant he/she start any wazeefa?

They can with the permission of a Shaykh. One doesnot need permission of those mentioned in Ahadith or in The Holy Quran but it is recommended that one does.

Originally posted by: Maria Qadri
4.What if one didnt take permission before starting a wazeefa?

Inappropriate and excessive flow of energy can have an immense effect.

Maulana Shamsuddin Azeemi state that their Shaykh advised them to perform a particular movement with the fingers of their feet in Salat-ul-'Isha, during prostration, to gain concentration in Salaah. It helped them alot and they started practising it in all the prayers.

The consequence of which was that instead of climbing a stair per step, they reached a spiritual state where their concentration increased to such an extent that noise and visibility would decrease to blindedness and dumbness and full concentration was acquired but this state was inappropriate for them because they had not reached that level of devotedness in Worship.

Fear filled their heart due to the high-level of concentration achieved, their room turned black and suddenly their body started lifting up in air and their head touched the roof. They fainted then.

They saw Ghous-ul-A'zam in their dream calling upon other people that it should be made sure that nothing happens to them. When they met their Shaykh next day, they said that you had everyone worried. The reason was doing in excess to what was prescribed.

In short, for understanding, donot seek the Electricity department's permission and lay a direct electricity cable from the dam to your house. Yes, the damages could be that severe. The appliances and light bulbs would burst with energy and not lit up.

I hope your questions are answered.

Jazak Allah
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 10:05 AM (#3) User is offline   Maria-Qadri 

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JazakAllah khairan Mobasher bhai for ur answer in detail.
You are a gem on yanabi.com...thanks again

May Allah ta'ala accepts all our duas.Ameen

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 11:16 AM (#4) User is offline   Husayni 

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Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Generally Wazifas from Quran and Hadith do not require permission..When a Wazifa is read for a specific reason then one should seek permission.A Wazifa is also given on ones spiritual state hence what might work for you might not work for me.The reason why we seek permission for a Wazifa or anything else as mureeds for the sole reason that our Beloved Masters may guide and help us from start to finish..

A mureed should not ask for Wazifa's to recite but rather wait for his/her shaykh to give it to them...

My Beloved Grand Master Pir-e-Tariqa Shaykh Sayyid Abdul Qadir Jilani Al Hassaini Al Hussaini says the following:When a mureed seeks something from his/her shaykh and once it has been given to them and if they do not follow the intruction as soon as it was given,but rather follow it later ,they are like a dog has vomited and now decides to eat his own vomit.
Always be sure in what you seek..

As a doctor prescribes medication for your body so does your Shaykh prescribes Wazifas for your spiritual heart.....

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 07:12 PM (#5) User is offline   Maria-Qadri 

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AsalamuAlikum.

I am back with one more question brothers.

Why do some people say that Surah Muzzammil is a Jalali surah?
What's the concept behind it..How can we understand that which surah is a Jalali surah and which is not?

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 09:58 PM (#6) User is offline   MMM 

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Wa Alaikum Assalaam,

Mashaikh have stated that its reading increases one's spiritual status massively, this is why it is recommended. Similarly, Ayaat-ul-Kareemah is also said to be Jalaali and it also increases spiritual statuses massively.

The faster your status increases, the more the Divine Noor of Allah Azzawajal Reflects through spirituality and chain of Mashaikh in your heart, which is a Jalaali Noor. The repetition of a Jalaali Wird lets the flow come continuously and The Divine Noor if Jalaali in nature.

The Revelations are the highest form of Spirituality. Allah Azzawajal Reveals it directly to His Prophet and The Essence of spirituality from His Noor is Jalaali.

This is why it is advisable that one must seek their Shaykh's permission before starting the Wazifah so that they would channelise only the required and beneficient amount to flow towards you, which you are capable to accept.

Understanding it is a science which can be understood from the Spiritual Masters. It depends upon the context of the Revelation. The mood of the incident when it was Revealed, etc.

Also, remember that Wazifah is a repetition of a particular Kalaam. It casts an effect on you when you perform it regularly and continuously. You are actually opening the door of its Mercies. Reading it once will not effect normal people much, but, if a Sufi Master reads it once and if Allah Azzawajal Wills, He May Bless him with a one sincere read.

Jazak Allah


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Posted 28 May 2007 - 06:18 AM (#7) User is offline   fouzia-attaria 

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Waalikumasalam Wa Rehmatullahi Wa barakatuh.

 Well after reading all the replies.. I do have a question..
 Is it true or just a superstitious belief that one who starts his wazeefa shouldn't eat Readmeat,Egg,Garlic,Onions etc till the completion of Wazeefa?

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Posted 28 May 2007 - 08:09 AM (#8) User is offline   MMM 

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It is not that you cannot eat them during a Wazifah. One takes it up in the path of Tasawwuf to suppress his/her desires. The intention of a certain period (Chilla) is made and egg, meat, etc are all given up to suppress the desires and weakening the desires of the body to excel oneself in spirituality without any obstructions and devote oneself to Allah Azzawajal.

Jazak Allah


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Posted 02 June 2007 - 11:21 AM (#9) User is offline   fouzia-attaria 

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JazakAllah brother for the answer.

    Is Surah Jinn also a Jalali surah?Is it true that by reading this surah continously for 40 days one can call Jinn?


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I am unaware whether it is Jalaali or not. I am also unaware whether one can call a Jinn by reading it, but I donot deny it either.

However, Mashaikh do advise us to read it, as a Wazifah, to negate the evil effects of Jinns.

Jazak Allah


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Posted 02 June 2007 - 01:38 PM (#11) User is offline   Seeker07 

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Salam
MashAllah a very detailed and informative description by the brother.
One thing, if i may add, is that there is no prohibition as per se about starting a wazifah without ur sheikh's permission, ie u can start. But the effect of one coming thru the sheikh and one without his intervention will be completely different even if the words u recite are the exact same. A wazifah coming from the sheikh has not only the words but also a tremendous amount of spirituality (faiz) which the seeker (saalik) comes to find at the appropriate time.

An analogy that comes to mind:
say u r driving a car, and looking for sum place to park. U find a place but ur firend tells u not to park there. U may listen or not listen to them.
But what if a police constable were to forbid u from parking there? u risk a fine/penalty if u disobey him
And more what if the mayor of the city or the ruler of the country were to ask u not to park there. If u don't listen to them u may even end up losing ur life.
The point being that all three people have said the same sentence with the same meaning but the effect/repercussions of each would be totally diff.
Same goes with wazaif initaited on ur own or thru ur sheikh.
Hope this helps.

A point to remember is that a true disciple (saalik) should and would totally hand him/herself over to the sheikh and only do or not do things that come from his sheikh. Only then would they be able to enjoy the spirituality. Once u become a saalik u basically negate ur ownself and become like putty in the hands of ur sheikh
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Posted 10 June 2007 - 01:08 PM (#12) User is offline   Maria-Qadri 

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AsalamuAlikum

I will tell one true incident that happened with my maternal aunt nearly 15 years ago .

She happened to read Surah jinn as a wazeefa for continously 40 days ..I dont know what was her intention behind it and also she didnt took  permission from Shaykh sahab and after some days....something strange happened with her and the very next day ,on her face ,a black coloured big spot appeared and when asked by an Amil sahab,He said that it happened  b coz a jinn slapped her face....(Cant say whether what the Amil sahab has said was truth or not)

Well I know this above look like a story,but it really happened with my Qaala.

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Originally posted by: Fish out of Water

AsalamuAlikumI will tell one true incident that happened with my maternal aunt nearly 15 years ago .She happened to read Surah jinn as a wazeefa for continously 40 days ..I dont know what was her intention behind it and also she didnt took  permission from Shaykh sahab and after some days....something strange happened with her and the very next day ,on her face ,a black coloured big spot appeared and when asked by an Amil sahab,He said that it happened  b coz a jinn slapped her face....(Cant say whether what the Amil sahab has said was truth or not)Well I know this above look like a story,but it really happened with my Qaala.Allah knows the best.


Sis Maria, I would like to type one of the Attributes of "surah jinn" from a kitab which i have read.

I have typed here the same words from the book for you:

"If Anyone wishes to overpower the Jinn, he should revise the 'surah Jinn' for 100 times.God will, he shall have an upper hand on the Jinn."

Hope you got the answer!!


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Posted 07 April 2008 - 11:28 PM (#14) User is offline   The_7thMujahid 

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Originally posted by: Muhammad Mobasher Muhammadi

Wa Alaikum Assalaam Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakaatuhu,

First of all, one should never request or seek permission for a Wazifah from their Shaykh. The reason is that if you are unable to oblige their advise regularly, it will be regarded as disobedience. You should only ask them to pray for you and should read the Wazifah they have advised you of, again, donot ask them to recommend you a Wazifah.

Their presence and prayers are enough for you. All you need to do is Tasawwur-e-Shaykh. This is best for you. My Shaykh once said that the best of all Wazifah is Durood Shareef, you donot need anything else. I know people who have achieved spiritual statuses that many may deny with the Blessings of reciting Durood Shareef regularly.

If your Shaykh has advised you with a Wazifah, then that, Tasawwur-e-Shaykh and Durood Shareef are enough, Insha Allah Azzawajal!

Going a bit off topic, some people fix a particular time for the above but feel it very hard and a burden upon themselves because they start from a huge number. If an amount is not specified by your Shaykh, then the best way is to start from a small number like three, the first week, then gradually increase the number, weekly, so that the Nafs gets used to it and doesnot see it as a burden and will not form an hindrance in the future, Insha Allah!

Similarly, with Tasawwur-e-Shaykh, if your Shaykh's Shijrah says one hour daily, then you should not shoot off from the first day itself if you are afraid of being irregular because your Nafs will burden your heart and mind and will form an hindrance. Start from one minute and increase a minute weekly.

It is very essential for a disciple or Saalik to understand that amount is not the key to success in spirituality, regularity is. Being regular is a quality and we all know that quantity doesnot matter if there is no quality. Your employer will not oblige you for working late if you arrive late for work or take day-offs, he will appreciat your punctuality and this will be your success to promotions, in spirituality, increase in status.

Aa'lahazrat Rahmatullah Alaih state that you should halt every Wazifah and should read the only ones your Shaykh advise you. Though, it is permissible to seek permission for any from your Shaykh.

Because, a patient never asks the doctor to give him a medicine and neither does he requests permission from him for a particular one. The doctor diagnoses and will only prescribe any, if required. It will be regarded as over-efficient. Your Shaykh knows what you need, they will tell you, you donot need to ask for it or seek particular permissions for any.

Originally posted by: Maria Qadri
1.Why is it necessary to take permission from your shaykh before starting a wazeefa(when the Wazeefas has some Allah ta'ala's name)Whats the need for permission ?

A Wazifah holds special spiritual powers and essences which reflect upon the heart. Your Shaykh receive Noor spiritually from their Mashaikh, they from theirs and The Holy Prophet[IMG][/IMG] distribute this to the Mashaikh, they receive it from Allah Azzawajal. It is a constant flow of spiritual energy, you might say 24/7 to make yourself understand.

The Divine Noor of Allah Azzawajal Descends upon The Holy Prophet[IMG][/IMG] and they distribute it to the Mashaikh and the Mashaikh as a mediation to their followers. If this Divine Noor would have Descended Directly upon us, our end would be similar to the Mountain of Tur i.e. ash.

To make it clearer, your house requires electricity. Where does it comes from? Lets take note of it.

In Pakistan, Tarbela Dam produces raw electricity. This is not suitable to provide electricity to a house, it will blow the fuse and bulbs. This has to be refined and brought to a very low level, this is done by plants built on these places. The electricity from these plants are carried to cities, towns and districts. Every area has a transformer which distributes electricty required by each house, accordingly. Then, some houses also use stabilizers, which stops harmful and excess flow of electricity that can ruin the functionality of the appliances.

Similarly, this is how spiritual energy flows to us through our Mashaikh. The ones who wish to take it directly, then let them go and take it from Tarbela Dam, firstly, they won't get it and even if they do, they won't leave a mark of their existance after that.

Data Sahab Rahmatullah Alaih are a the plant of spiritual energy in Pakistan, similarly, Khwaja Sahab Rahmatullah Alaih are of Hindustan. This energy is recieved by their representatives in every state and they act as transformers. Then these Mashaikh have Khulufa who are stabilizers and let the flow of spiritual energy to a particular disciple appropriately because not all are capable of absorbing a huge amount.

There is a specific spiritual nature of every substance. Some may suit a disciple and some may not while others may require filtering. If the disciple informs his Shaykh, the Shaykh will only let flow that amount of energy which the discple requires and can handle. This is why it is necessary to seek permission.

Where there is spiritual benefit, other qualities which are already present in the reader are acquired in excess similar to an over-dose of a medicine which is capable to cure but will not if taken more than prescribed.

For e.g. The Wird of the Ayah-tul-Kareemah is Jalali in nature. I know a discple of my Shaykh who are short-tempered. My Shaykh advised them to read this Wazifah with sugar on their tongue to negate the effect of Jalal in it. Sugar is sweet in nature and the spirituality present in it is also sweet.

Originally posted by: Maria Qadri
2.For what kind of wazeefas should one take permission?

You can take permission for any sort of Wazifah but like I said earlier, you donot need to. If your Shaykh advise you some, that is best for you and if your Shaykh donot advise any, then that is best for you.

Practise being regular with your obligatory duties and Sunnah. Also, be regular in reciting Durood Shareef and performing Tasawwur-e-Shaykh, you donot need to recite a Wazifah if you are not asked to, by your Shaykh.

This is why one is advised to seek a Shaykh because the ones without any stray from one to another seeking permissions for Wazifah while the fact is that you donot need to recite any or volunteer for any if you have a Shaykh, their Blessed presence suffices you and provides you with the adequate spirituality required.

Originally posted by: Maria Qadri
3.What about one who doesnt have any shaykh?Cant he/she start any wazeefa?

They can with the permission of a Shaykh. One doesnot need permission of those mentioned in Ahadith or in The Holy Quran but it is recommended that one does.

Originally posted by: Maria Qadri
4.What if one didnt take permission before starting a wazeefa?

Inappropriate and excessive flow of energy can have an immense effect.

Maulana Shamsuddin Azeemi state that their Shaykh advised them to perform a particular movement with the fingers of their feet in Salat-ul-'Isha, during prostration, to gain concentration in Salaah. It helped them alot and they started practising it in all the prayers.

The consequence of which was that instead of climbing a stair per step, they reached a spiritual state where their concentration increased to such an extent that noise and visibility would decrease to blindedness and dumbness and full concentration was acquired but this state was inappropriate for them because they had not reached that level of devotedness in Worship.

Fear filled their heart due to the high-level of concentration achieved, their room turned black and suddenly their body started lifting up in air and their head touched the roof. They fainted then.

They saw Ghous-ul-A'zam[IMG][/IMG] in their dream calling upon other people that it should be made sure that nothing happens to them. When they met their Shaykh next day, they said that you had everyone worried. The reason was doing in excess to what was prescribed.

In short, for understanding, donot seek the Electricity department's permission and lay a direct electricity cable from the dam to your house. Yes, the damages could be that severe. The appliances and light bulbs would burst with energy and not lit up.

I hope your questions are answered.

Jazak Allah


As Salaam u Alaikum,

That was an excellent answer to my questionin another thread concerning dhikring the 99 names of Allah ta ala...now I have more questions !,LOL
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