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WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH THESE PEOPLE?
Sohbet given by Sheykh Abdul Kerim el-Hakkani el-Kibrisi, osmanli representative of Shaykh Nazim Haqqani.
Saturday 26 Shawwal, 1427
November 18, 2006
Osmanli Naks-i'bendi Hakkani Dergah, Siddiki Center, New York.
(After the nightly zikir at the Osmanli Dergahi we read a sohbet of Sheykh Mevlana Nazim which was given on April 24, 2004. It can be read at
Run to Be a Servant to Allah)
Then Sheykh Abdul Kerim spoke thus:
Medet Ya Seyyidi Ya Sultanul Awliya, Medet.
I was just intending, when I was making the zikir it came to my heart to make this last sohbet to you. I made it a long time ago, if some of you remember, about Musa (alayhi salam). A traveler passed through the village and he was a disobedient one. They greeted him properly and everyone got cursed because of that. I am intending to make that
village here. Anyone who will be coming here with that anger and with that dirtiness must go out from here now and never come back again! I am intending to do that.
If I am not cutting (that one) today then tomorrow I am going to. Either you are going to get rid of your dirty characteristics, you are going to become like those people in that village (through which Hazrat Musa was passing, they were all shining, they were all patient, they were all good ones for Allah,) or you have no place here. You have other places on this earth but you have no place here. You have no place with me. Put that in your head and put that in your heart.
I am fed up with people calling themselves to everyone in this world that they are the mureeds of Sheykh Mevlana,
including you, and yet coming here with these dirty characteristics.
You have some foolish things here and other people have some foolish things on the internet day and night. Do you think that it is giving high value to our Sheykh? Now, on the internet it's going back and forth that people are declaring that Sheykh Mevlana is Allah, or giving him all the titles that are given to Allah. Is that what Islam
is ordering us? What foolishness happened to these people? Hmm? From where are we getting these teachings? From the teachings that just came (through the sohbet of Sheykh Mevlana that was just read)? When was that sohbet given? What was the date of that sohbet? When was it given? Say.
(A murid answers, `April 24, 2004')
2004. In two years time Sheykh Mevlana changed his position? Huh? In that sohbet he spoke everything. He said Who is all-Seeing and Who is all-Knowing. He said Who is al-Musawwir. He said, "Out of six billion people five is going to die." He said it. Do you think that the one billion staying left are all these people who are calling themselves
Muslims and going back and forth up and down like robots not understanding Islam and not trying to take care of their egoistic ways? Do you think those are the ones? Search yourself. Look at yourself. Look and understand, "Am I from that five billion who is going to burn and go or not?" Search yourselves sincerely. Don't wait for anybody to tell you. Look at yourselves to understand where you are standing.
Don't think that in the Divine Presence Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is separating people because you are belonging to this one or belonging to that one. It's only those who have taqwa. And those who have taqwa, it must be showing in their manner, in their talk, in their action and in their attitude. Not to get into that heedless station that some of
you just came to Islam yesterday and now you are thinking and giving fatwa twenty-four hours a day. These words are for here and for all those people who are sitting behind computers and talking all those nonsense words about Sheykh Mevlana.
Sheykh Mevlana is a man. He is not higher than the Prophet (alayhi salatu wa salam). No one has been created higher than the Holy Prophet (sws). Prophet (sws) said, "Do not leave me to my ego for the blink of an eye, Ya Rabbi." Did Prophet (sws) say, "I am all-Seeing and I am all-Hearing"? Is that what Sheykh Mevlana said now in that sohbet? Or
is he saying, "All-Knowing is only for the Creator"?
That's exactly what they did to Jesus. Jesus didn't say, "I am the Lord." But those foolish ones who were running after him and they said that they love him, said that he is the Creator. He is God. And Allah will question him on the Judgment Day saying to him, "Ya Isa! Are you the one who said to them that you are the Lord?" And he is going to say, "No, Ya Rabbi. It is known to You that it is not me." And Allah is going to say to him, "Where is your evidence? These billions are saying that you said it and you are saying that you didn't." And Isa (as) is going to show, saying, "Muhammad and his nation is my witness."
What's the matter with these people? Foolish ones! Do you think giving that kind of titles to our Sheykh is putting Sheykh up or is it putting him down in front of the whole world? Everyone is attacking Sheykh Mevlana because of a couple of stupid people who just came to tariqat yesterday. Who is giving authority to them? Sheykh Mevlana? Did Sheykh Mevlana ever say, "These are my titles"? Or did Sheykh Mevlana ever say to someone, "Go around and say these are my titles"?
Or is he always saying, "Ya Rabbi, grant us to be your better servants"? Did he ever sit to speak, to make speech or sohbet without saying `Medet' either in the beginning or in the middle of the sohbet or in the end? I have been watching him for over forty years and never have I heard Sheykh Mevlana speaking about something without saying `Medet'. How foolish these people became. And we are all running after our own foolishness.
You must wake up before it's too late. This is not a game. This is not your egoistic game. You are servants. We are servants. Be happy that you will be getting that title saying, "You are a servant." That is enough title. If Sheykh Mevlana is speaking about something, those who understand, understand. If you don't understand then don't go around
spreading wrong words. You will be responsible in the Judgment Day.
I said to him one time, "This is what they are saying, Sheykh Mevlana. This is what they are exaggerating about you. They are coming to you, they are putting in front of you one cassette, one video, you say a couple of words, they ask you a couple of questions, they take those words, they go around using it on themselves and they are attacking the whole world." He said, "What can I do, my son? This is Ahir Zaman, the end of times. Not much we can do." Anyone who is going to do such a thing like that, they are going to pay a price.
So it's for me, for you and for everyone who is hearing, to know that yes Sheykh Mevlana is the Sultanul Awliya, yes he is Mawlana and he is the Sheykh of Sheykhs. We must wake up. We must wake up that he is a man. He is a creature. He is not the Creator.
Wa min Allahu taufiq
El-Fatiha.

Shaykh Abdul Kerim's main dergah for people interested is:
OSMANLI NAKSI'BENDi DERGAHI
Website: http://naksibendi.org/
1663 WHEAT HILL ROAD
SIDNEY CENTER, NY 13839
(607) 369-4816

WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH THESE PEOPLE?
Sohbet given by Sheykh Abdul Kerim el-Hakkani el-Kibrisi, osmanli representative of Shaykh Nazim Haqqani.
Saturday 26 Shawwal, 1427
November 18, 2006
Osmanli Naks-i'bendi Hakkani Dergah, Siddiki Center, New York.
(After the nightly zikir at the Osmanli Dergahi we read a sohbet of Sheykh Mevlana Nazim which was given on April 24, 2004. It can be read at
Run to Be a Servant to Allah)
Then Sheykh Abdul Kerim spoke thus:
Medet Ya Seyyidi Ya Sultanul Awliya, Medet.
I was just intending, when I was making the zikir it came to my heart to make this last sohbet to you. I made it a long time ago, if some of you remember, about Musa (alayhi salam). A traveler passed through the village and he was a disobedient one. They greeted him properly and everyone got cursed because of that. I am intending to make that
village here. Anyone who will be coming here with that anger and with that dirtiness must go out from here now and never come back again! I am intending to do that.
If I am not cutting (that one) today then tomorrow I am going to. Either you are going to get rid of your dirty characteristics, you are going to become like those people in that village (through which Hazrat Musa was passing, they were all shining, they were all patient, they were all good ones for Allah,) or you have no place here. You have other places on this earth but you have no place here. You have no place with me. Put that in your head and put that in your heart.
I am fed up with people calling themselves to everyone in this world that they are the mureeds of Sheykh Mevlana,
including you, and yet coming here with these dirty characteristics.
You have some foolish things here and other people have some foolish things on the internet day and night. Do you think that it is giving high value to our Sheykh? Now, on the internet it's going back and forth that people are declaring that Sheykh Mevlana is Allah, or giving him all the titles that are given to Allah. Is that what Islam
is ordering us? What foolishness happened to these people? Hmm? From where are we getting these teachings? From the teachings that just came (through the sohbet of Sheykh Mevlana that was just read)? When was that sohbet given? What was the date of that sohbet? When was it given? Say.
(A murid answers, `April 24, 2004')
2004. In two years time Sheykh Mevlana changed his position? Huh? In that sohbet he spoke everything. He said Who is all-Seeing and Who is all-Knowing. He said Who is al-Musawwir. He said, "Out of six billion people five is going to die." He said it. Do you think that the one billion staying left are all these people who are calling themselves
Muslims and going back and forth up and down like robots not understanding Islam and not trying to take care of their egoistic ways? Do you think those are the ones? Search yourself. Look at yourself. Look and understand, "Am I from that five billion who is going to burn and go or not?" Search yourselves sincerely. Don't wait for anybody to tell you. Look at yourselves to understand where you are standing.
Don't think that in the Divine Presence Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is separating people because you are belonging to this one or belonging to that one. It's only those who have taqwa. And those who have taqwa, it must be showing in their manner, in their talk, in their action and in their attitude. Not to get into that heedless station that some of
you just came to Islam yesterday and now you are thinking and giving fatwa twenty-four hours a day. These words are for here and for all those people who are sitting behind computers and talking all those nonsense words about Sheykh Mevlana.
Sheykh Mevlana is a man. He is not higher than the Prophet (alayhi salatu wa salam). No one has been created higher than the Holy Prophet (sws). Prophet (sws) said, "Do not leave me to my ego for the blink of an eye, Ya Rabbi." Did Prophet (sws) say, "I am all-Seeing and I am all-Hearing"? Is that what Sheykh Mevlana said now in that sohbet? Or
is he saying, "All-Knowing is only for the Creator"?
That's exactly what they did to Jesus. Jesus didn't say, "I am the Lord." But those foolish ones who were running after him and they said that they love him, said that he is the Creator. He is God. And Allah will question him on the Judgment Day saying to him, "Ya Isa! Are you the one who said to them that you are the Lord?" And he is going to say, "No, Ya Rabbi. It is known to You that it is not me." And Allah is going to say to him, "Where is your evidence? These billions are saying that you said it and you are saying that you didn't." And Isa (as) is going to show, saying, "Muhammad and his nation is my witness."
What's the matter with these people? Foolish ones! Do you think giving that kind of titles to our Sheykh is putting Sheykh up or is it putting him down in front of the whole world? Everyone is attacking Sheykh Mevlana because of a couple of stupid people who just came to tariqat yesterday. Who is giving authority to them? Sheykh Mevlana? Did Sheykh Mevlana ever say, "These are my titles"? Or did Sheykh Mevlana ever say to someone, "Go around and say these are my titles"?
Or is he always saying, "Ya Rabbi, grant us to be your better servants"? Did he ever sit to speak, to make speech or sohbet without saying `Medet' either in the beginning or in the middle of the sohbet or in the end? I have been watching him for over forty years and never have I heard Sheykh Mevlana speaking about something without saying `Medet'. How foolish these people became. And we are all running after our own foolishness.
You must wake up before it's too late. This is not a game. This is not your egoistic game. You are servants. We are servants. Be happy that you will be getting that title saying, "You are a servant." That is enough title. If Sheykh Mevlana is speaking about something, those who understand, understand. If you don't understand then don't go around
spreading wrong words. You will be responsible in the Judgment Day.
I said to him one time, "This is what they are saying, Sheykh Mevlana. This is what they are exaggerating about you. They are coming to you, they are putting in front of you one cassette, one video, you say a couple of words, they ask you a couple of questions, they take those words, they go around using it on themselves and they are attacking the whole world." He said, "What can I do, my son? This is Ahir Zaman, the end of times. Not much we can do." Anyone who is going to do such a thing like that, they are going to pay a price.
So it's for me, for you and for everyone who is hearing, to know that yes Sheykh Mevlana is the Sultanul Awliya, yes he is Mawlana and he is the Sheykh of Sheykhs. We must wake up. We must wake up that he is a man. He is a creature. He is not the Creator.
Wa min Allahu taufiq
El-Fatiha.

Shaykh Abdul Kerim's main dergah for people interested is:
OSMANLI NAKSI'BENDi DERGAHI
Website: http://naksibendi.org/
1663 WHEAT HILL ROAD
SIDNEY CENTER, NY 13839
(607) 369-4816
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