[senas1]

follow my desires and stay with other men?? for god sake, have you heared about friendship. i am not going to marry someone who feel so insecure to let me keep my friendship with friends of opposite sex. and i am glad islam gave you peace, it didn't do that for me?

[venus_zany]

Originally posted by: xxxx xxxx

i am not going to marry someone who feel so insecure to let me keep my friendship with friends of opposite sex.

Asalam o Aliykum Brother,

It's not about being insecure, it's about protection. I'm pretty sure you would have a problem, say if your future wife had a guy friend, and she talked about him constantly, and she went out with him.

And, you may trust your wife, but would you be able to trust the guy who's so keen on spending time with your wife?

Similarly, your wife may trust you, but why put yourself in a situation where Shaytan can easily manipulate your mind, and you may find yourself giving into temptation.

There are so many occasions, where two people end up doing things they regret. So, Islam's "restriction" on gender interaction it's just Allah Subhanu Wa Tallah's loving way of protecting us from harm. It's not a restriction that's forced on us. It's an act of love. Allah Subhanu Wa Tallah's way of looking out for us.

and i am glad islam gave you peace, it didn't do that for me?

Brother, you have to put all of your faith in Allah Subhanu Wa Tallah, without being cynical or skeptic.

"Call on Me and I will answer you. Those who are too proud to worship Me will enter Hell abject." (Qur'an, 40:60)

[venus_zany]

Asalam o Aliykum Brother,

May Allah Subhanu Wa Tallah help you find peace in Islam. Our prayers are with you. May the Merciful Allah bless you with the truth.

"The meaning of Islam is peace or total surrender , meaning thereby surrendering one's own will before the Will of the Almighty. The foundation for inner peace rests on the following:

1. One must acknowledge that he has a Creator who has created him for some purpose in this earthly life.
2. One must follow the Book of the Creator which the Almighty sent for His creatures-the guidance in the shape of the revealed books, i.e. the Holy Qur'an.
3. One must acknowledge that the Creator has been sending guidance and Messengers (peace be upon them) to lead mankind towards physical and spiritual prosperity and the life hereafter.
4. One must believe that the Almighty has created many other intelligent beings such as angels and jinnbeings.
5. One must believe that his/her earthly life is very short, so much so that it has been compared with a short nap which one traveler might take under the shadow of a tree while traveling on the road and then goes on his way.
6. One must believe that this worldly life is full of tests and trials. All these hardships must be borne with patience, steadfastness, taking all calamities, losses, adversities from the Almighty as a test of his Iman (belief).
7. One must not believe in any man or deity as his/her creator. Nor should he deny the existence of the Creator. No one can deny Allah without first affirming Him. By saying "I don't believe in Allah" can only mean that Allah does indeed exists, but one refuses to believe in Him.

Denial of the Creator takes away peace, and the light of reason and intellect from the heart of a person and fills it with doubt. This is the worst disease of the qalb (heart), which causes every imaginable psychiatric (spiritual) malady.

Thus when the qalb is diseased then some, or all, of the aforementioned characteristics will be manifested in the conduct of any individual, depriving him of peace, tranquillity, sleep, and good health. Deprived of peace, a person will try to find solace in drugs, alcoholic drinks, sexual activities, hoarding wealth or getting power. Ultimately, they fall victim to the most horrible physical and psychiatric diseases.

Those who wish to have perfect physical and spiritual health, as well as those who are suffering and want to be cured of their diseases, will have to follow this code as explained by the Holy Last Messenger, Muhammad (Salla Allahu Allahyie Wa Allahyie Wasallam) :

"You should believe:

1. In Allah, i.e. in His Person and Attributes and
2. The Last Day, and
3. The Angels, and
4. The earlier (Divine) Books (no longer available with original content), and
5. All the Messengers, and
6. The rising after death, and
7. The destiny, i.e., all that is good or bad is from Allah, and
8. That you bear witness that there is none worthy of worship except Allah and that Muhammad (Salla Allahu Wa Allahyie Wasallam) is His Messenger, and
9. That at the time of each salat you establish the salat it is proper time after performing a perfect wudhu.  
10. Pay the zakat (obligatory charity on wealth exceeding a prescribed limit), and
11. Fast during the month of Ramadhan, and
12. Perform Hajj if you have wealth.
13. You should perform the sunnat-e-mu'akkadah salat every day. (According to other Hadith, the twelve rak'at are detailed as two rak'at before the two fard (obligatory) rak'at of Fajr Salat, four before and two rak'at after the four fard rak'at of Zuhr, two after the three fard rak'at of Maghrib and two after the four fard rak'at of 'Isha).
14. You should never miss the Witr salat at night, which is wajib (compulsory, but less than fard and more important than sunnat) and is, therefore, specially emphasized.
15. You should ascribe no partners unto Allah.
16. You should not disobey your parents (if they obey the Almighty).
17. You should not devour the property of orphans unjustly. (Unjustly implies that there is no harm in using the belongings of an orphan in a lawful manner as in the case under certain circumstances.)
18. You should not drink wine.
19. You should not commit adultery.
20. You should not indulge in false oaths.
21. You should not give false evidence.
22. You should not yield to your base desires.
23. You should not backbite a Muslim brother.
24. You should not bring a false charge against a chaste woman (or a chaste man).
25. You should not bear ill-will towards your Muslim brethren.
26. You should not indulge in useless amusements.
27. You should not join the idle spectators.
28. You should not call a short-statured person "O, you short-statured one!" with the intention of finding fault in him.
29. You should not indulge in jokes at the cost of others.
30. You should not indulge in slandering others.
31. You should be ever grateful to Allah for His bounties.
32. You should be steadfast in suffering and calamity.
33. You should not sever your ties of kinship with your relatives.
34. You should discharge your obligations to your relatives.
35. You should not curse any creature of Allah.
36. You should remember and glorify Allah by repeating SubhanAllah (Glory belongs to Allah), Al-Hamdu lil-Lah (All Praises is for Allah), Allahu Akbar (Allah is the Greatest) with frequency.
37. You should not give up the recitation of the Noble Quran under any circumstances."

[venus_zany]

Which of Allah's favours can we deny?
Above all creatures, he chose us to be high
To Him we belong, to Him is our return
Life in this world is only sojourn
To the angels he commanded that man be respected
Shaytan heeded not and so was he rejected
Compared to the angels we are but clay
As long as Allah we obey, we'll not go astray
As the best of His creation only us did He deem
This for us is honour this high esteem
His qudrat it is that cause winds to blow
He gives us provision so that we may grow

To lead man astray, shaytaan made a vow
None can mislead us if to Allah we bow
It's a task to be free from shaytaan's treachery
Iman is our weapon, it's Allah's mercy

Allah is our Creator, He gave us dignity
We face evil each day, in Him there is serenity
At the time appointed the world shall perish
Hope for hereafter's success is what we cherish

To show the way He sent prophets to guide
Life may be pleasant, His laws we must abide
Muhammed [Salla Allahu Allahyie Wa Allahyie Wasallam] was the last, rahmatullil-aalameen
Through him Allah sent al-qur'aan al-mubeen

[Rizwan-Aziz]

Which of Allah's favours can we deny? Above all creatures, he chose us to be high To Him we belong, to Him is our return

A beautiful poem Respected Sister. JazakAllah

[senas1]

very nice poem. yes we all will return to god one way or another, it might take some longer but thankfully we all will get there. who is the poem from

[venus_zany]

Asalam o Aliykum Brother,
Sorry, the above are lyrics from Zain Bhikha's Nasheed (Islamic Song), 'Which of Allah's Favours Can we Deny?'
Praying for your peace. May Allah Subhanu Wa Tallah bless you with the "truth".

[senas1]

hi firstly i am not a brother (i am a woman). and i will not be in a relationship where i don't trust my partner. i don't have to trust my partners friends, i believe god gave him free will, even if his femal friends, or male freinds seduce him, he should be able to resist. if he does something he regrets, his responsible for it not his fiends. no honestly if i can't trust him then i'll pull out of that relationship. if i have serious feelings for someone else (be it from same sex or opposites sex), i will let my partner know and depending on the situation we might decide to stay with one another or seperate. i'll be honest with you i have been attaracted to people of the same sex and opposite sex. wanting to follow the islamic rule i have to lose all my friends if i get married.

[venus_zany]

Originally posted by: xxxx xxxx

i'll be honest with you i have been attaracted to people of the same sex and opposite sex.

Asalam o Aliykum Sister,
Sorry for calling you a brother. I appreciate your honesty.
You can read up on Islam's opinion regarding homosexuality here:


The Qur'an addresses homosexuality in several chapters, including Surat al-'Araf (7:81-84), Surat Hud (11:77-83), Surat al-Hijr (15:57-75), Surat al-Shu'ara (26:160-174), Surat al-Naml (27:54-58), and Surat al-Ankabut (29:28-35).

For example, in Surat al-'Araf, verses 80-81, Allah Most High says, "We also (sent) Lut: He said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women : ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds."

According to Ibn Kathir's tafsir (exegesis), the above verses show that homosexuality was unknown to humanity until the men of Prophet Lut's tribe manifested this sin by approaching men instead of women. The Prophet, Lut, peace be upon him, went on to express his astonishment that the men of his tribe had forsaken their natural mates, females, to practice their lusts with males. The commentary goes on to describe this practice as ignorance and transgressing the limits.

Furthermore, as Muslims, we know that the Prophet Muhammad, Allah bless him and give him peace, provided us the best example of a human being in his Sunna, or living tradition. Allah Most High says about the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, "And thou (standest) on an exalted standard of character." The Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, married women and exhorted his companions to marry women and warned them against trangressing beyond the limits of Allah Most High.

The Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, said, "May Allah curse him who does what Lot's people did." [Reliance of the Traveller, p17.2]

In a rigorously authenticated tradition, the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, said, "Whoever can promise me what is between their lips and what is between their thighs I will promise for them paradise." [Muslim]

Guarding one's sexuality from unlawful sexual intercourse is the duty of every Muslim. If it is unlawful for a man and woman to have sexual intercourse outside of marriage, then it is even more egregious for a man to approach another man, or a woman to approach another woman.

The purpose of life is to surrender ourselves to Allah Most High. Our desires must be in accordance with Sacred Law.

As far as associating with homosexuals is concerned:  As Muslims living in Western societies, we recognize that there is a need to interact with many different people. With the example of the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, before us, we know that we are required to deal with people with justice, compassion, and dignity. We avoid insulting or abusing homosexuals. And we also exercise caution about who we take as close friends. The basis for close friendships in Islam is the existence of God-fearingness and righteousness. Thus, a Muslim is courteous in his dealings with non-Muslims, but also realizes that close companionships are reserved for those who are upright in their beliefs and character.

[venus_zany]

Asalam o Aliykum Sister,
There's more information regarding homosexuality in your other thread
Homosexuality is a grave sin, condemned by our Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu Allahyie Wa Allahyie Wasallam)

[senas1]

hi when i said i have feelings for both sexes, i really didn't mean to get into this discussion. i was just saying if go with you're reason why islam asks married people not chill out with the opposite sex when they marri(to a muslim). yes i understand that you think islam does not approve of homesexuality, it is something i have to read carefully about and analyse. i am being honest about my sexuality, it is how i feel, i can't change that, if that makes me a sinner then let it be! i have already said that perfect to you means something else than it does to me. prophet mohammad perhaps was on the path of perfection, not perfect. i personally doubt most hadith, but this was a quite unusual one In a rigorously authenticated tradition, the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, said, "Whoever can promise me what is between their lips and what is between their thighs I will promise for them paradise." [Muslim]. sorry it will take me awhile to recover from the shock of reading this hadith, so i can look at it with more open mind. i believe living in the west has opened my eyes to a lot of thing, i have learned to not judge people regarding their sexuality, race or religion. you might believe that islam is the only true religion, the only way to reach god, the perfect religion. i think what makes a religion perfect is it's followers. i have a christion friend, who while is very religious, is very accepting and understanding. for me her religion is a perfect religion with that i don't mean christianity in general is the perfect religion, it is her understanding of it that makes it perfect. when i was in iran and very religious, i used to think that it was the only way to the truth, i never questioned what i was taught to be islam, i never questioned prophet mohammed lifestyle, if other said he was a perfect being then he was. here i learned to question, a bit difficult because it is much harder to live with uncertainty than with a false belief.

[Aslan]

Originally posted by: xxxx xxxx

hi
when i said i have feelings for both sexes, i really didn't mean to get into this discussion. i was just saying if go with you're reason why islam asks married people not chill out with the opposite sex when they marri(to a muslim).
yes i understand that you think islam does not approve of homesexuality, it is something i have to read carefully about and analyse. i am being honest about my sexuality, it is how i feel, i can't change that, if that makes me a sinner then let it be!
i have already said that perfect to you means something else than it does to me. prophet mohammad perhaps was on the path of perfection, not perfect. i personally doubt most hadith, but this was a quite unusual one In a rigorously authenticated tradition, the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, said, "Whoever can promise me what is between their lips and what is between their thighs I will promise for them paradise." [Muslim]. sorry it will take me awhile to recover from the shock of reading this hadith, so i can look at it with more open mind. i believe living in the west has opened my eyes to a lot of thing, i have learned to not judge people regarding their sexuality, race or religion. you might believe that islam is the only true religion, the only way to reach god, the perfect religion. i think what makes a religion perfect is it's followers. i have a christion friend, who while is very religious, is very accepting and understanding. for me her religion is a perfect religion with that i don't mean christianity in general is the perfect religion, it is her understanding of it that makes it perfect. when i was in iran and very religious, i used to think that it was the only way to the truth, i never questioned what i was taught to be islam, i never questioned prophet mohammed lifestyle, if other said he was a perfect being then he was. here i learned to question, a bit difficult because it is much harder to live with uncertainty than with a false belief.

Please give a reference for that as that might be a fake.
Then we can answer you about that Hadith.
It DOESN'T support homosexuality!!! Gays are strongly condemned in Islam!!!
The Hadiths are originally in Arabic, so their speech is different to english, so their meanings of what they say are different too!!!
Such is that "Hadith" might mean that whoever sacrifices all of himself i.e. in Jihad were he is martyred, he would be granted paradise!!!
It doesn't support gays!!!

[venus_zany]

Originally posted by: * *

In a rigorously authenticated tradition, the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, said, "Whoever can promise me what is between their lips and what is between their thighs I will promise for them paradise." [Muslim]

Guarding one's sexuality from unlawful sexual intercourse is the duty of every Muslim. If it is unlawful for a man and woman to have sexual intercourse outside of marriage, then it is even more egregious for a man to approach another man, or a woman to approach another woman.

Asalam o Aliykum,
I provided the "ex-Muslim" with the hadith. From the article I found on Sunnipath by Shaykh Zaynab Ansari.
I dont know about the authenticty of the hadith, and I'm not gonna try interpreting because I don't have the knowledge for it.
May Allah Forgive my mistakes that I might have made here.
My apologies if the hadith is wrong, but I got it from a reliable source.

[venus_zany]

Originally posted by: xxxx xxxx

i have already said that perfect to you means something else than it does to me. prophet mohammad perhaps was on the path of perfection, not perfect. i personally doubt most hadith...i believe living in the west has opened my eyes to a lot of thing, i have learned to not judge people regarding their sexuality, race or religion.

Hello,
I'm hurt by this post of yours, so my apologies if I come out a little harsh here.
First of all, your claim that it was the West that taught you acceptance shows how little you know about the true essence of Islam. Have you read the Last Sermon of the Prophet Sallah Allahu Allahyie Wa Allahyie Wasallam? He condemned racism, and prejudices. The West's acceptance of racism, what world do you live in? Don't get lured into the West's superficial freedom. Islam is a blessing. I suggest you learn more about the Prophet Muhammed Salla Allahu Allahyie Wa Allahyie Wasallam before you go about sharing your views on him. Study Islam and only then you have the right to interpret the hadiths.

Also, you saying you were religious back in Iraq or wherever you are from, I'm curious to know what does being religious mean in your eyes?

Members on Yanabi (Salla Allahu Allahyie Wa Allahyie Wasallam) have provided you with some excellent resources regarding Islam, I suggest you study them before coming back here and showing disrespect to our Beloved Prophet (Sallah Allahu Allahyie Wa Allahyie Wasallam).

For now we can only pray for you.

[Aslan]

Assalam-o-Alaikum,
MashAllah sis **, your answers are very good.
I'd recommend what you said aswell to xxxxx, as for the sermon, i provided it in THIS THREAD, but i guess she didn't read it!!!
As for the Hadith, it is authentic!!!
I was just suggesting the possibility of it being fake because sometimes you go to kafirs sites and they fake things up. So i thought that this xxxxx person might have gone to a kafir site and that site to promote gays might have faked some Hadiths to support their cause... Ah you understand sis don't you??
Cause you can't trust kafirs as they make up many lies against Muslims and they forge many things to support their preposterous claims!!!
But since you provided the info and it was from Sunnipath, then i deem it authentic!!!

take care,
Allah hafiz,

[venus_zany]

Walikum Aslaam Wa RahamutAllahi Wa Barkathu,
Thank you for your kindness brother.
Islam's a blessing. I have seen that people are so blind-sided by the truth, that they keep resorting to the bogus and false accusations regarding the lax of human rights in Islam.
But, people like that are just a reminder to the members of Yanabi (Salla Allahu Allahyie Wa Allahyie Wasallam), that Islam is a blessing, and we shouldn't take it for granted.
Like on numerous occasions the members have provided strong evidence reagarding Allah Subhanu Wa Tallah's love, mercy and existence to our so-called liberal members. But sadly, they are so drowned in their own ignorance that eventhough they are presented with the truth they lack the ability to see it.
So it's only through Allah (Subahanu Wa Tallah)'s will and blessing one could become a true Muslim, a true lover of the Mighty Allah and his PERFECT Prophet (Salla Allahu Allahyie Wa Allahyie Wasallam).
May Allah keep us in the right path and give us tawfeeq to remain grateful to Him.

[Aslan]

Assalam-o-Alaikum,
Remember this very important Islamic rule that is adopted by the scholars "when the ignorant provide information, VERIFY it!!!"
Yes its absolutely junk that the kafirs accuse us of.
I remember, one feminist, when i gave her solid proofs about Islam and answered her, she remained blinded and stubborn.
You know what!!! I gave her the signs of the day of Judgement, and she ADMITTED that many of the Prophesies have come true, but yet she said that it was nothing important, and that it didn't proof Islam to be correct!!! That was absolutely ridiculous, even though she accepted the signs, she still rejected them!!!
Anyways, for xxxxx, i'll provide some of those Prophecies in another post here.
So please xxxxxx, read that.
As for the Perfect Prophet, perfect is when Allah Taa'la decrees someone perfect!!! Since Allah Taa'la deems the Best of Creation as perfect, then he(SAW) IS perfect, its NOT an idea. Its like saying that human's exist is just a view!!!
Please sis **, when you quote long things(as you did with mine), please shorten them as it takes a lot of the page. You can edit it when writing the post, you just cut out the irrelevent stuff from the quote.

JazakAllah Khair sister for your efforts.

Take care,
Allah Hafiz.

[Aslan]

The Minor Signs:

The disappearance of knowledge and the appearance of ignorance (Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, & Ahmad)

Books/writing will be widespread and knowledge will be low (Ahmad)

Adultery and fornication will be prevalent (The Prophet, peace be upon him, said that this has never happened without new diseases befalling the people, which their ancestors had not known.) (Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, & Al-Haythami)

When fornication becomes widespread among your leaders (The Prophet, peace be upon him, said that this will happen when the people stop forbidding evil) (Ibn Majah)

Adultery and fornication will be performed in the open

The consumption of intoxicants will be widespread (Bukhari & Muslim)

Women will outnumber men......eventually 50:1 (Bukhari, Muslim, & Ahmad)

Killing, killing, killing (Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, & Ahmad)

The nations of the earth will gather against the Muslims like hungry people going to sit down to a table full of food. This will occur when the Muslims are large in number, but "like the foam of the sea".

People will beat others with whips like the tails of oxen (Muslim) ?The Slave Trade

The children will be filled with rage (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

Children will be foul (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

Women will conspire (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

Rain will be acidic or burning (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

Children of fornication will become widespread or prevalent (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

When a trust becomes a means of making a profit (at-Tirmidhi, Al-Haythami)

Gains will be shared out only among the rich, with no benefit to the poor (at-Tirmidhi)

Paying zakat becomes a burden and miserliness becomes widespread; charity is given reluctantly (at-Tirmidhi & Al-Haythami)

Miserliness will be thrown into the hearts of people (Bukhari)

Episodes of sudden death will become widespread (Ahmad)

There will be people who will be brethren in public but enemies in secret (He was asked how that would come about and replied, "Because they will have ulterior motives in their mutual dealings and at the same time will fear one another.") (at-Tirmidhi)

When a man obeys his wife and disobeys his mother; and treats his friend kindly while shunning his father (at-Tirmidhi)

When voices are raised in the mosques (at-Tirmidhi)

People will walk in the marketplace with their thighs exposed

Great distances will be traversed in short spans of time

The people of Iraq will recieve no food and no money due to oppression by the Romans (Europeans) (Muslim)

People will hop between the clouds and the earth

A tribulation will enter everyone's home (Ahmad)

The leader of a people will be the worst of them (at-Tirmidhi)

Leaders of people will be oppressors (Al-Haythami)

People will treat a man with respect out of fear for some evil he might do (at-Tirmidhi)

Men will begin to wear silk (at-Tirmidhi)

Female singers and musical instruments will become popular (at-Tirmidhi)

When singers become common (Al-Haythami)

People will dance late into the night

When the last ones of the Ummah begin to curse the first ones (at-Tirmidhi) You see this done by the wahabis.

People will claim to follow the Qur'an but will reject hadith & sunnah (Abu Dawood)

People will believe in the stars (Al-Haythami)

People will reject al-Qadr (the Divine Decree of Destiny) (Al-Haythami)

Time will pass rapidly(travel will become quick) (Bukhari, Muslim, & Ahmad)

Good deeds will decrease (Bukhari)

Smog will appear over cities because of the evil that they are doing

People will be carrying on with their trade, but their will only be a few trustworthy persons

Wealth will increase so much so that if a man were given 10,000, he would not be content with it (Ahmad & Bukhari)

A man will pass by a grave and wish that he was in their place (Bukhari)

Earthquakes will increase (Bukhari & Muslim)

There will be attempts to make the deserts green

The appearance of false messengers (30 dajjals) (Bukhari)

Women will be naked in spite of being dressed, these women will be led astray & will lead others astray (Muslim)

The conquest of Constantinople(Istanbul) by the Muslims (Ahmad)

The conquest of India by the Muslims, just prior to the return of Jesus, son of Mary (peace be upon both of them)(Ahmad, an-Nisa'i, at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

When people begin to compete with others in the construction of taller buildings (Bukhari)

There will be a special greeting for the people of distinction (Ahmad)

The Euphrates will disclose a treasure (The Prophet, peace be upon him, said that whoever is present should not take anything from it) (Bukhari & Muslim)

Two large groups, adhering to the same religious teaching will fight each other with large numbers of casualties (Bukhari & Muslim)

Wild animals will be able to talk to humans (Ahmad)

A man will leave his home and his thigh or hip will tell him what is happening back at his home (Ahmad)

Years of deceit in which the truthful person will not be believed and the liar will be believed (Ahmad)

Bearing false witness will become widespread (Al-Haythami & Ahmad)

When men lie with men and women lie with women (Al-Haythami)

Trade will become so widespread that a woman will be forced to help her husband in business (Ahmad)

A woman will enter the workforce out of love for this world (Ahmad)

Arrogance will increase in the earth (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

Family ties will be cut (Ahmad)

There will be many women of child-bearing age who will no longer give birth.

There will be an abundance of food, much of which has no blessing in it.

People will refuse when offerred food.

Men will begin to look like women and women will begin to look like men

The Major Signs:

Although they appear here in no particular order, it is important to point out that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said that these last, major signs will follow each other like pearls falling off of a necklace...

Masih ad-Dajjal (The AntiChrist)

The Mahdi

The appearance of Masih al-'Isa (Jesus Christ), the son of Mary (peace be upon him)

Ya'juj and Ma'juj (Gog and Magog)

The destruction of the Ka'bah and the recovery of its treasure

Emergence of the Beast

The smoke

Three major landslides (one in the East, one in the West, and one on the Arabian peninsula)

The wind will take the souls of the believers

The rising of the sun from the west

The fire will drive the people to their final gathering place

Three blasts of the trumpet (fear & terror, death, resurrection)

[senas1]

i meant no direpect to the prophet by saying he was not perfect in my eyes. perfection to me is not being open to any critisim in any culture or at any time. so no one can be perfect, on the other hand perhaps there is a divine meaning for perfection, and that is abit difficult to explain, perhaps in divine sense pthe islamic prophet was perfect (i don't know that for sure, and people coming and telling me he was and for that reason i have to accept what he said makes me a bit uneasy). i don't mean any disrespect to anyone, i would never disagree with the christions that jesus was the son of god but i won't agree with it either, because they claim him to be (my undersanig of jesus being the son of god and god himself is a bit complex) . i had an argument with my brother and i said that perhaps the muhammad had a vision, and he said " no it was not just a vision, he knew!" i agree that perhaps muhammad had seen the truth, yet i don't agree that islamic teaching (or what is claimed to be) is appropriate for all cultures, if it is not allowed to change to fit the time. yes probably my ununderstading of being religious is quite biased. when i ws in iran, i prayed five times a day, a read quaran regularly (never tried to process the meaning propally), i covered my hair, and i thought the prophet as the perfect human being (without realising that i was taught rather than reached the conclusion myself), i never ever let doubt about islam to cross my mind i thought of that as a sin (yet my sister who still believes herself a muslim (probably you would not see her as one if you listen to her ideas about islam) quetioned it to the horror of my family. she claimed that there was no god at the age of ten, i never would have dared to let that thought cross my mind in iran because i thought of it as sin.) that is what i meant by being religious. pls do no be insulted but words have different meaning, i don't think prophet was perfect in one sense, but he was perfect in another sense (and there are and have always been other perfect human beings.) yes i absoloutly agree, there has been a lot of good resources, i have read some carfully and taken notes, and i am still thinking about them. and there have been some that after scanning through them i have realised they just too different to my beliefs. i have not heared anything that could convince me homesexuality is a sin except that the prophet said so, why did he say so that is my question. and still it might be good enough for you because prophet and quarn says so. but look at it from my perspective, i have already said i am not a muslim so the reason that quaran says so and prophet says so des not convince me, same as a christion claiming that bible says that jesus was the son of god (so what? i am not christion can not accept it!) yes islam perhaps teaches a lot of tolerance and unfortunetly many who claim to be muslim ignore it. the west as i konw it does not encourage rascism, yet i agree that there is high rascism in the west. yet i like my rights as a non-muslim women more than i liked as a muslim women. what everyone said that islam gives women rights, disagreed with what the quotes their brought (and i apologise if that insults anyone, i am just giving you what i thought about it). and i should thankou because there has been quite a few beautiful qutes from quaran and hadith that you have given. and i am sorry that my belief insults you, yet as i said i question everything even my own belief!

[senas1]

by the way dear Ahlusunnah as you advice sister** i have been to a A so called kafir site, and they said the same thing about you as say about them. you said something about kafirs making lies and they said something about muslims saying lies when it suits them (that is in defence of islam) (it wasn't a site promoting homesexuality, it is even worth! preaching that prophet mohammed was a pedophile and a lot of other bulshits and misunderstanig about muslims and islam. it is quite funny, i would not recomed it if you easily get offended, but it made me quite upset at the star but my sister advised me to take them as a joke (i mean you have to read the hadith they put on, it is so disturbing and so obvious that they have taken it out of context)!" but i am sorry if this comes out as an insult (i don't have anything against you personally) let peole make up their own mind about who lies and who tells the truth, give us the credit that we are capable of at least that! (i mean you apologised to sister **, but don't you think you disregard my intelegence to go to a website and pick up hadith. for god sake i sometimes read hadith on this website that i wonder about their autheniciy such as the hadith about giving the prophet you're toung and.... i really am not sure if that is authentic or not (sorry sis**), but then you probably don't think i have any intellegence since i take a different view than yours!