[Mirza-Ghulam-Ahmad]

Where is Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam)?

Allah ta'alah says in the Holy Qur'an

'O Jesus, I will cause thee to die a natural death and will raise thee to Myself, and will clear thee of the charges of those who disbelieve, and will exalt those who follow thee above those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, and I will judge between you concerning that wherein you differ.'
(Al-Imran 56)

Many of you do not accept an QADIANI KAFIR translation of the Holy Qur'an, so let us examine the Kanzul Eeman  and Abdullah Yusuf Ali  translations of this very ayat.

The Kanzul Eeman translation

Remember, when Allah said; O Isa! I shall cause you to reach to your full life and I shall raise you towards Myself and I shall purify you from the infidels, and shall give your followers superiority over the rejecters until the Day of Resurrection then you all shall come returning to Me: then I shall decide between you concerning that wherein you dispute'.

Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.
 
QADIANI KAFIRS believe that when Allah ta'alah says He will "raise you (Jesus) towards Myself" this is a spiritual exaltation and does not mean that Allah will literally or physically raise Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam) towards Himself.

If Allah ta'alah literally raised Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam) towards Himself, does that mean that Allah ta'alah was not present at the place where Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam) was before he was raised? That would mean that Allah ta'alah is a physical being and He is not present everywhere (NAAZUBILLAH).

So this is the million dollar question,
Where is Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam)?  

[irfanrazakhan]

Kanz-ul-Eeman
And he shall be a Messenger towards the children of Israelsaying this, 'I have brought to you a sign from your Lord; that I make a form out of clay like a bird for you then again breathe in it and it becomes a bird atonce by the command of Allah; and I heal the born blind and the leper and I make the dead alive by the command of Allah and tell to you whatever you eat and what you store in your houses. No doubt, in these things there is a great sign for you if you believe. And I have come confirming the book Taurat that was before me; and for this that I should make lawful some of those things which were forbidden to you; and I have brought to you a sign from your Lord then fear Allah and obey my command. No doubt Allah is the Lord of me, of yours, of all so worship Him only. This is the straight path. Then again when Isa found infidelity in them, said, 'who become my helpers towards Allah'. The disciples said, 'We are the helpers of the religion of God; We have believed in Allah and bear you witness that we are Muslims. 'O our Lord! 'We believe in what you have sent down and followed the Messenger, then write us among those who bear witness on truth.' And the infidels plotted and Allah secretly devised for their destruction and Allah is the best of secret devisers.  Remember, when Allah said; O Isa! I shall cause you to reach to your full life and I shall raise you towards Myself and I shall purify you from the infidels, and shall give your followers superiority over the rejecters until the Day of Resurrection then you all shall come returning to Me: then I shall decide between you concerning that wherein you dispute'.

Dear Qadiani, You must firstly quote in context the whole Quranic ayat and not pick and choose what you feel like, to meet with your false beliefs!! Allah said to hazrat Isa  i shall cause you!!! This is prior to the ascension, yani Allah is saying you shall return and live your life wholely confirming with what hadith sharif states not what mirza qadianis books state!! Your acceptance of Mirza Qadiani's words over Hadith is clear cut Kufar!! Quran is telling you what Allah said to hazrat isa, why do Allah's already exalted prophet's need exalation further more? is it because mirza will claim to be prophet is that why Allah will exalt him further asatgfirullah that is the sickest and most shaytanic tafsir i have heard!! LANAAT     

Allah is saying i shall raise you towards Myself, and i shall purify you from the infidels yani those that accuse him of being Son of God and all those that wanted to persecute hazrat isa  What has this got to with Qadiani?

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad rejected the fundamental Muslim doctrine of Second coming of Hazrat Isa ibne Maryam  Rather he said that Hazrat Isa  has died his natural death and even located his grave in Khanyar Street, Srinagar, Kashmir. Mirza Sahib wrote a book "Jesus in India" where he gave a detailed account of what had actually happened at the Cross. According to him Jesus was put to the Cross by the Jews on Friday; Jesus fainted and jews thought that He is dead. He was buried but three days later He regained conciousness and came out of the grave. He was 33 years old at that time. He met His disciples and secretly migrated to India. where he died at the age of 120 years. Let us have a look at the following extracts from this book :

"Hence, I shall prove in this book that Jesus (Peace be upon him) did not die on the Cross either did he go up to the Heavens nor it should ever be hoped that he will return to the earth from the Heavens; rather, he died at the age of 120 years in Srinagar in Kashmir, and his grave is in the Khanyar Region of Srinagar." (Maseeh Hindustan Mein, Roohani Khazain vol.15 p. 14)
"Authentic narrations of Hadith prove that our Holy Prophet (pbuh) said that Maseeh lived upto the age of 120 years. And this is ACCEPTED by ALL THE SECTS of ISLAM that in the person of Jesus two such qualities were combined which were not present in any other Prophet. Firstly, that HE LIVED HIS FULL LIFE i.e. he was alive for 125 years. Secondly, He toured most of the parts of the world . . . . . now it is obvious if he had ascended to Heavens at the age of only 33 years, then the Tradition of 125 years would not have been correct, neither he could have toured at such a young age of 33. These Traditions are not only mentioned in the authentic and ancient books of Hadith, but they are so popular among all the sects of Muslims that none can be imagined more famous." (Maseeh Hindustan Mein {Messiah in India}, Roohani Khazain vol.15 pp. 55-56)

Christian Era (AD) begins with the birth of Hazrat Isa ibne Maryam (Jesus) in 1 AD. Hazrat Isa according to Mirza Sahib died at the age of 120 years, meaning 120 AD. Now let us examine the following extract from "Anjam-e-Atham" written by Mirza Sahib:

"The Holy Quran clearly says that the Masih was lifted to the heavens after his death. Therefore his descent is symbolic and not real. And in the verse 'Falamma Tawaffeteni' it has been clearly manifested that death of Hazrat Isa (pbuh) has already taken place. Because the meaning of the verse is that the Christians will go astray after the death of Hazrat Isa (pbuh) and not during his lifetime. So if we assume that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) is not yet dead, then we will have to agree that the Christians are not yet digressed, and this is absolutely false. Rather the verse is saying that the Christians remained faithful only until the life-time of Hazrat Isa (pbuh). From this it becomes known that corruption had already begun during the time of Disciples. If the period of the Disciples had been such that the Christians had still been on right path, then in this verse Allah would not have linked it with the life-time of Hazrat Isa(pbuh) only, but would have included the life time of the Disciples as well. Thus at this juncture a very good point of the period of corruption in Christianity is illustrated and
which is that IN TRUTH, during the time of the Disciples itself, the seeds of SHIRK (associating partner with God) were sown in Christianity.(Anjam-e-Atham, Roohani Khazain vol.11 p.321)

[irfanrazakhan]

THE IMPORTANT POINTS FROM THE ABOVE QUOTE'S ARE:

• Mirza gives prove from Hadith that Hazrat Isa died at the age of 125.
  
• The Christians were on right path only during the life time of Hazrat Isa.
  
• He was not made God or son of God during his life time.
  
• Seeds of SHIRK (Trinity) were sown after the death of Hazrat Isa. Till the life time of Hazrat Isa there is no possibility of such a digression. Mirza Ghulam is quoting the verse "Falamma Tawaffeteni" (5:117) from Quran implying that Allah is guaranteeing protection of such corruption during the life of Hazrat Isa only.
  
• Since Mirza has stated in his book "Jesus in India" that Hazrat Isa died in 120 AD, therefore sowing the seeds of Association of Partners with Allah (i.e. Trinity) could not have take place before 120 AD. This means that Hazrat Isa was made God and son of God only after 120 A.D. Before 120 A.D. not even one man can have this faith that Hazrat Isa is God or son of God.
  
• Thus the year of 120 A.D. became a turning point.

Now let us examine some extracts from Another book of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Chashma-e-Masihi (Roohani Khazain volume 20):
 

"All the bad things were introduced in this religion (Christianity) by Paul. Hazrat Isa was such an unselfish person that He did not even want anyone to call him a pious man but Paul made him God."(Chashma-e-Maseehi, Roohani Khazain vol.20 p.375)
"And in the very first instance, he (Paul) implanted the bad seedling of Trinity in Damascus. And this Pauline Trinity started from Damascus. It is towards this that Hadith Shareef has hinted that the future Maseeh will descend on the eastern side of Damascus."(Chashma-e-Maseehi, Roohani Khazain vol.20 p.377)

In this book, Chasma-e-Masihi, Mirza has clearly stated that St. Paul was responsible for the doctrine of Holy Trinity and thus turning Hazrat Isa into God. It is a well known fact that St. Paul died in 64 AD or 67 AD. 'The 100' gives the year of his death as 64 AD. Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics says:

"That he suffered martyrdom at Rome there can be no doubt. . . . the date will lie between
A.D. 64 and 67, most probably nearer the former than the later limit." (Encyclopedia vol.9 p. 694)

FINAL ARGUMENTS

1. In the book "Jesus in India" Mirza Sahib proved that Hazrat Isa died in 120 AD.
   
2. In the book "Anjam -e-Atham" , Mirza Sahib has clearly stated that the seeds of Trinity were not sown until 120 A.D.
   
3. In the book "Anjam -e-Atham" , Mirza Sahib has clearly said that St. Paul made Hazrat Isa God.
   
4. Paul died in 64 or 65 A.D. where as Hazrat Isa died in 120 A.D. Therefore Paul died at least 55 years before Hazrat Isa.
   
5. Since Paul must have given the doctrine of Trinity during his life time, this means that Hazrat Isa was made God at least 55 years before His own death. In other words by 65 A.D. Hazrat Isa was made God/Son of God while he died 55 years later in 120 A.D.
   
6. While he (Jesus) was alive in Kashmir, he was being worshipped as God in Palestine.
   
7. Thus Mirza Sahib's commentary on Holy Quran's verse 5:117 (Falamma Tawaffetenni) in his book "Anjam-e-Atham" that Christians made Hazrat Isa God after the death of Hazrat Isa in 120 A.D. becomes absolutely wrong.

Is this a small mistake for a man claiming to have been divinely ordained to be a Messiah, a Mahdi and a Prophet?Such grevious error? So obviously and utterly wrong! So conclusively wrong!
If Mirza were alive and this question had been put to him, could he have said: "I am a human being and I can make mistakes". Mirza had claimed help of Allah in these arguments. Can Allah be wrong? No! only the claim of Mirza is wrong. If he can be wrong in one thing, what proof is there that he is not wrong in other things. The idea of this whole exercise of trying to prove that Hazrat Isa  is dead was to establish his claim of being the Promised Messiah and Mahdi. His argument is that since Hazrat Isa is dead he will not return, because it is against the principals of Allah. Someone else will take up the role of Hazrat Isa and that someone is Mirza himself. Above arguments prove conclusively that he (Mirza Ghulam) could not sustain his claim of being Imam Mahdi and the Promised Messiah. Therefore he is not Imam Mahdi and the Promised Messiah. As a corollary he is not a Prophet, because a true Prophet will not make a false claim. Q.E.D.
ANOTHER INTERESTING POINT
It is written by Qadianis in Tafseer of Quran Majeed that Hazrat Isa kept a careful watch over his followers as long as he was alive. Did he really keep a careful watch as long as he was alive specially in Palestine and Rome were Paul made him God and son of God? According to Mirza Sahib, Hazrat Isa at the age of 33 was put on the Cross after which he fled Palestine for good. HE SECRETLY MIGRATED TO INDIA and remained alive for 87 more years and died at the age of 120 in Srinagar, Kashmir. He kept no contact with the people of Palestine for these 87 years. People in Palestine did not know that Hazrat Isa was alive in Kashmir and Hazrat Isa did not know that the people in Palestine had begun to worship him as God and son of God. Therefore in the original land where he was sent as Messenger (Palestine) and where he was made God/son of God, he kept careful watch only till the age of 33 and for the remaining 87 years of his life he kept no watch over them at all. What a glaring mistake!
Remember: All this is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani's assertions and we have only his words for them. WILL THE QADIANIS, HIS Followers, KINDLY CLARIFY THE ABOVE POINTS OR RECTIFY THEIR BELIEF?

[irfanrazakhan]

QUOTEOriginally posted by: Irfan Raza Khan Kanz-ul-EemanAnd he shall be a Messenger towards the children of Israel

Hazrat Isa - Prophet for Bani Israel or Prophet for Buddhists?

Allah had sent Hazrat Isa  to guide the Children of Israel BUT Mirza Sahib sent Him to the followers of Buddha. Majority of the followers of Buddha were non-Israelites. Mirza Sahib says that Buddha got Ilham from Allah (Divine Revelation) to forecast the coming of Hazrat Isa  500 years later to give new life to Buddhism.

"After recieving the revelation from God, Buddha gave his followers this hope that Bagwa Metreya will come to their land. Thus any Buddhist who is aware of this prophecy cannot deny the fact that the Bagwa Maiterya, whose other name was Maseeh came to this land, because the failure of a prophecy makes that religion bogus." (Maseeh in Hindustan, Roohani Khazain vol 15 p.84)

"Every Buddhist must necessarily profess the belief that five hundred years after the Buddha, the Bagwa (white) Maitreya did appear in their land." (Maseeh in Hindustan, Roohani Khazain vol.15 p.92)

"There can be no doubt that He came in the colours of Buddha and the Book of Oldenburg with reference to Buddha's Book, Lkavati Sutta, it is written that the followers of Buddha used to console themselves with the hope of future that they will achieve the fruits of salvation by becoming the follower of Maitreya. i.e. they had confidence that Maitreya will appear among them and they will attain salvation through him, because the words in which Buddha had given them the hope of Maitreya they were clearly proving that his followers will meet Maitreya. Now with this statement of this book, confidence is generated in the heart that God had created means of their guidance from both sides . . . . and no one can doubt that those moral teachings and spiritual ways which were established by Buddha, the teachings of Hazrat Maseeh have regenerated them in this world." (Maseeh in India, Roohani Khazain vol.15 pp. 81-82)

How could Hazrat Isa  go to preach among non-Bani Israel on the basis of divine revelation of Buddha? Is this not AGAINST OUR AND YOUR FAITH which states that Hazrat Isa (PBUH) was sent to Bani Israel only? To further clarify that Hazrat Isa  went to all Buddhists whether they were Israelites or not, Mirza Sahib quotes Buddha as saying that Hazrat Isa  will come from outside to the land of Prophecy, Magadh, in which the people were dark. And Buddha himself was dark. And SINCE ALL THE BUDDHISTS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS PROPHECY, COMMON SENSE SAYS THAT NON ISRAELITES ARE ALSO INCLUDED, SINCE ALL BUDDHISTS WERE NOT ISRAELITES.

"Syedah Aisha said: "I feel that i will survive you, do you permit that i be burried next to you"? the beloved prophet  said: "How can you get this place? Besides my grave Hazrat abu bakr's and hazrat umar's and hazrat isa ibn maryam graves, shall be there will be no more room" (ibn asakir, asqalani, shykh abdul fattah gaddah (has classfied as sahih)     

One million dollar question who is qadiani? 

"The Holy Prophet  said: And there will arise Thirty imposters in my Ummah and each one of them will pronounce to the world that he is a prophet, but I am the last in the line of the Prophets of God and no Apostle will come after me." (Abu Dawud, Kitab-ul-Fitan) 

The Prophet  of God said: "No Prophet will come after me and there will, therefore, be no other community of followers of any new prophet." (Baihaqi,Kitab-ul Rouya; Tabarani)   

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hey you Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, you bloody sick-goat, why don't you bug off! especially if you can't disagree with teachings and aqeedas of Qadianism.  Leave sunnis alone or they'll beat you up and mash up up into a keema and export your flesh and meat and place in the same toilet where your gang leader (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani) had once died on a toilet.

hey ghostbuster, come back when you have cleaned your brains out from Qadianism. your guru once said he was L. Karishna ... i wonder if he said he was kareena kapoor (indian actress).  that would be funny and give a good title for bollywood industry.

listen to me you cowboy chaloo, if your gang leader (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani) was a clown and jumped about in circus, would you also wish to be a clown and jump about like mingers at circuses? 

if your fool (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani) said he was a superman or a batman, would you still agree to that?  go scratch your head and think about it!

don't you know your (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani) was high on drugs

and I assume he must have spent most his life sitting never mind on the toilet, but sitting inside the toilet with the 'toilet top' shut on top of him. i wonder what the nigger in the toilet must have been doing in the toilet, probably playing GAME BOY and basically wetting himself over and over again and even probably washing himself with the same urine. I wander if he ever ate poo while stuck in toilet and must have had a bath by simply flushing the toilet while he was in the toilet.  WHAT A TROPICAL TOILETY LIFE.

...serves him right.

has your (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani) ever been in detention after school?

[irfanrazakhan]

"The third day jesus said: 'Go to the mount of Olives with my mother, for there will i ascend again unto heaven, and ye will see who shall bear me up'
So theer went all, saving tewnty five of the seventy two disciples, who for fear had fled to Damascus And as they all stood in prayer, at mid day came jesus with a great multitude of angels who were praising God: and the splendour of his (hazrat isa) face 

And he reproved many who believed him to have died and risen again, saying: Do you hold me and God for liars? For God hath granted to me to live almost unto the end of the world!! even as i said unto you. verily i say unto you, i died not, but Judas the traitor beware shaytaan will make every effort to decieve you, but be ye my witnesses in all Israel and throughtout the world of ye have heard and seen. And having spoken he prayed God for the salvation of the faithful, and the conversion of sinners. And his prayer ended, he embraced his mother mary, saying: 'peace be unto thee, my mother, rest thou in God who created thee and me as his servants' And having thus spoken, he turned to his disciples, saying ' May God's grace and mercy be with you'

Then before our eyes TWO angels carried him up into heaven.

(verse 220-223 Gospal of Barnabas)      

Mirza Qadiani bring me one book that confirms Qadianis view!!! Instead of having to resort to making your own Quranic tafsirs!! Astagfirullah!!   


Lantula he wa kazaabunalaiyak

            

[tahir_abbas]

salam.bro irfan respect.i would just like to add this.   sura 4 ( al nisaa ) 157-158  and for their saying.we slew the massiah.jesus son of mary,the messenger of allah,whereas they slew him not and neither crucified him,but one was made like him for them.and those who are differing about him,certainly,they are in doubt regarding him.they have not the least knowledge about it,but merely following a conjecture,and undoubtedly,they slew him not.  158-but allah raised him up towards himself,and allahis dominant,wise.   ( as you can clearly see there is no arguement.) to all qadianis wake up and smell the truth.

[SAIF]

mr mirza ghulam ahmad i am offering you three things you should only accept one

1.) convert to the religion of islam and believe hazrat muhmmad pbuh to be the final prophet

2.) Come to us face to face for a debate with your people and we will bring our people

3.) Come and fight with us if you can defend your religion and dont even think about saying love for all and hate for none

you can make any of  the above choices to make for the choice number 1 you shall i get a lot of reward

ma salam

[one-world]

Assalamoalaikum,

As Brother Irfan has pointed out Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani preached that Hazrat Isa (on him be Peace and Blessings of Allah) died at the age of 120 or 125 (Mirza Qadiani gives both these ages in the space of a couple of sentences) and was buried in Kashmir. However, Mirza Qadiani, who was the mujadid/promised messiah/the awaited mehdi/prophet and what not, did not always beleive in this. OH NO!! He at one time beleived that the grave of Hazrat Isa was in Jerusalem!! In his book 'Itmam ul-Hujja' which is also knwn as 'Roohani Khazain vol 23' he writes (all the words in brackets are mine)(Remember these are the words of no ordinary person but a mujadid/promised messiah/the awaited mehdi/prophet):

The grave of Hazrat Isa is in the area of SHAAM (at that time Jerusalem was part of the greater area called SHAMM). And if you say that this grave is a fake then you will have to furnish some proofs to prove it a fake. And you will also have to give proofs as to when the story of this fake grave was created (and spread). And in such a case (that you are able to prove this grave to be a fake) then we will not be certain about the graves of any of the other prophets either, and we will have to say that these graves might be fake as well (what logic!!).(Page 24-25)

The details about this grave were given to Mirza Qadiani by a certain individual named Maulvi Mohammad Al-Saeedi. The letter that he wrote to Mirza Qadiani is also published in the footnotes of the book. Some excerpts from the letter written to Mirza Qadiani:

Regarding the question you have asked about the grave of Hazrat Isa and other events/things, let me give you a detailed answer. Hazrat Isa was born in Bethlehem . . . . and his grave is in Jerusalem, where it is still found today. A church has been built over this site and is bigger than all other churches. Inside the church the graves of both Hazrat Isa and his mother are to be found. (Footnotes page 25-28)

So, the million dollar question is, where is the grave of Hazrat Isa??

    

[one-world]

And just to answer Mirza Qadiani:

The grave of Hazrat Isa was found in 330 A.D i.e. 300 years after Hazrat Isa walked on this earth. The grave was found by Queen Helena, the mother of Empror Constantine. Alongwith the grave she also found:

1. The exact birthplace of Jesus Christ in Bethlehem, where the Basilica of the Nativity is to be found.

2. Mount of Olives grotto, where Jesus Christ prophesised the destruction of Jerusalem.

3. The True Cross on which Jesus Christ was crucified.

4. Two other crosses on which the theifs were crucified at the same time as Jesus Christ.

5. The wooden piece with the inscription that was placed on the cross over Jesus' head at the time of his crucifiction.

6. The nails that were used in the crucifiction.

7. The Way of the Cross, the path Jesus Christ took from the place of his condemnation to the place of his entombment.

She also 'found' various other places where important events had took place in the life of Jesus Christ or his mother. Queen Helena then had churches built over these sites. Most of the sites dedicated to Jesus Christ or his mother in Palestine/Israel were 'found' by Queen Helena. 

The Church of Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem is the site where Queen Helena 'found' the empth grave of Jesus Christ. This was the place where his body was kept after his crucifiction and before his resurrection. 
 

[one-world]

The problem with Mirza Qadiani was that he was born in the wrong age. They did not have means of mass communication at that time.If he had the internet, Mirza Qadiani would have found out just how easy it is to PROVE his arguments to be very flimsy and not based on any strong evidence.

[one-world]

Just to add that when Mirza Qadiani wrote about the grave of Hazrat Isa he was not directing his comments towards Christians but towards Muslims. So you can't say that was trying to undermine the arguments of christians. No, this was written directly in response to a book written by a muslim author in which he gave proofs to show that Hazrat Isa was still alive.

[Reshmi]

Well done Bro Irfan!!! Mash-allah, great postings as usual!

A message to Mirza, I'd change my name if i were you mate!!!!!! AND YOUR BELIEFS!!

[irfanrazakhan]

Has any Qadiani ever analysed the writings of Mirza Ghulam, to know what exactly he had written about the site of burial of Jesus? I am sure none of you had done that, and if you have then they are all accessory to a massive deception campaign, or else delibrately avoiding to face the truth.

Now let me tell you what I discovered in the writings of Mirza Ghulam. You are of course free to agree or disagree with me, but please, please, only after you have verified the quotes that I have given. My task is nothing but to convey the message, after that it is between you and Allah.

In his various books, Mirza Ghulam A. Qadiani, had given three different locations for the Grave of Jesus. Which one is correct?

1. Jesus  buried in Al-Khaleeli (Gulailee).

In 1891 Mirza wrote a huge volume, Izala Auham, which ran upto 948 pages. In the second volume of this book, he wrote a detailed, mind boggling explanation trying to prove that Jesus was not taken physically to heavens (as the Muslims believe), but that he was taken down from the cross, went to his native place, Al-Khalil, died and buried there. He writes:

"This is true that Maseeh went to his native place, and died there, but this is not true that the same body which was buried, became alive again..... verse 3 chapter I of Acts is a testimony about the natural death of Jesus that took place in Al-Khaleeli. After this death, Maseeh was visible to his students as KASHF (vision) for 40 days." (Izala-e-Auham, Roohani Khazain vol.3 p.353-354)
 
1. Grave of Jesus  in Quds

However, 3 years later, in 1894, Mirza changed his story. In his other book, Atmam-e-Hujjat (Roohani Khazain volume 8) he once again tried to prove that Eisa Ibne Maryam AS is dead. In an attempt to prove that, he gave the testimony of one of his rare Arab Disciple, Molvi Mohammed Al-Saeedi Trabilisi Al-Shaami. He wrote:

"This has to be admitted that Hazrat Eisa is also dead, and interestingly enoughthe grave of Hazrat isa is also in Syria and for further clarity, in the footnote, I include the testimony of My brother, My lover in Allah, Molvi Mohammad Al-Saeedi Trablisi. He is a resident of Tripoli, in the Country of Syria and in his area is the Grave of Hazrat Essa AS (Jesus). If you say that Grave is a fake, then you must provide the proof of this fake, and prove that when this fraud took place. And in this event we will not be sure about the graves of any prophet and trust will be lost, and we will have to say that all those burial places are fake." (Atmam E Hujat, Page: 18-19, Roohani Khazain vol.8 p.296-297, dated 1894)

Letter of Molvi Mohammed Al-Saeedi Trabilisi:

"O Hazrat Maulana & My Imam. Assalamo alaikum wa rehmatullah wa barakaatohu. I pray that may Allah give you cure (I recieved this letter of Shaami Saheb during my illness) Whatever you have asked about the Grave of Eisa alaihe assalam and other events, thus I am writing to you in detail, and that is this: Hazrat Eisa alaih assalam was born in Bait-ul-Lehm and between Bait-ul-Lehm and Quds there is a distance of thirty miles and the Grave of Hazrat Eisa alaihe assalam is in the Country of Quds, and is present till now, and there is a Church built on it, and that church is the largest church of all churches, and inside it is the Grave of Hazrat Eisa and in the same church is the Grave of Maryam, the truthful. And both graves are separate." (Atmam-ul-Hujjat, Roohani Khazain vol.8 p.299)

That seems to settle the matter. As far as Mirza Saheb was concerned, Jesus was dead and his grave was in al-Quds.

1. Jesus' Grave in Kashmir: However 8 years later, Mirza changed the story once again. Now he started propagating his new theory: Jesus is buried in Kashmir.

   
   "It is proved with certianity that Essa AS (Jesus) migrated to Kashmir. After this Allah liberated him with his blessing and he kept on living there for a long time until he died and was included among the deads. And his burial place is still in the city of Srinagar(Tomb of Yus Asif)" (Al-Huda, 12 June 1902, Page 109)

   "I have been informed about the grave of isa (in Kashmir)."(Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.358, 361)

   "The grave of Jesus is in Kashmir." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p. 320, Nuzool-e-Maseeh, printed in 1909, after the death of Mirza)

Million dollar question So now we have three different statements of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani regarding the grave of Jesus. question to Qadianis is which is the correct one? Al-Khalil or Quds or Kashmir?

[irfanrazakhan]

Kanz-ul-Eeman
But Allah raised him up towards Himself, and Allah is Dominant, Wise. There is not any one of the people of the Book, who will not believe in him before his death, and he will be a witness against them on the Day of judgement. 
Surahe An-Nisaa 156-58


"After the first period of islam, this would be the best of periods for the ummah" (Narrated by Hazrat Abu Nuyman bin hammad)

"In that period all relgions of the world will be eliminated except Islam and no disbeliever will remain in the world." (Abu Dawood, Ibn Majah, Ahmad, Muslim)

Now Quraan sharif is stateing That he will be raised, Further it states that when he shall return that not one of the people of the book will deny hazrat isa but here we have Qadiani who not only denied by the people of the book, even the dam idol worshippers cannot accept him to be krishna or  Jai Singh Bahadur for Sikhs  non of the other non people of the book relgions is wiling to accept him, what sort of comedy is this clown trying to crack? To even further supprt the Quranic ayat not that it needs above are strong hadiths too. Which put to shame Mirza and his blind followers. As we know buy now Mirza has a good habit of "shooting his own foot" lets look at what he has to say bearing in mind the above ayat and hadith's.

"God has revealed to me that anyone to whom my message has reached and he has not accepted me , he is not a muslim." (Aina-e-Kamalat-e-Islam, Roohani Khazain vol.5 p.547)

"It is our obligation that we do not consider non-ahmadis as muslims and do not pray behind them, because for us they have rejected one prophet (Mirza Ghulam) of God. This is a religious matter and no one has any right to do anything in it." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.167)

"All muslims who are included in the initiation of Maseeh Mowood, even if they have not heard the name of Maseeh Mowood, they are Kafir and out of the fold of Islam. I admit that these are my beliefs." (Anwar-e-Khilafat, by Mirza Mahmood, Khalifa 2, p.90)

"Every one who accepts Moses but not Eisa or accepts Eisa but not Muhammad or accepts Muhammad but not Maseeh Mowood, he is not only Kafir but a hardened Kafir and is out of the fold of Islam. (Kalimat-alFasl by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam p.110)

"Thus remember as God has informed me, it is forbidden and absolutely forbidden to pray behind any disbeliever and hesitant; but is should be that your imam should be one of you." (Arba’een No 3, Roohani Khazain vol.17 p.417 footnote

Some one asked a question and Mirza has replied to it. Both are mentioned in his book, Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi. I quote:

"Question: Mirza Ghulam Qadini has mentioned in thousands of places that it is not at all right to call KAFIR a Kalima-go (one who recites a Kalima) and an Ahle-Qibla. It is quite obvious that except those Mo’mineen who become Kafir by rejecting you, just by not accepting you no one becomes a Kafir. But you write to Abdul Hakeem Khan that anyone who has recieved my message and he has not accepted me, he is not muslim. There is contradiction between this statement and the statements in previous books. Earlier in ‘Tiryaq-ul-Quloob’ etc. you had mentioned that no one becomes Kafir by not accepting you and now you are writing that ‘by rejecting me he becomes a Kafir.’

Answer: This is strange that you consider the person who rejects me and the person who calls me Kafir as two different persons, whereas in the eyes of God he is the same type; because he who does not accept me is because he considers me a fabricator.... apart from this, he who does not accept me, he does not believe in God and His Prophet as well, because there is God’s and his Prophet’s prophecy regarding me”"

Milion dollar question: If Quran is stateing that before hazrat isa passes away not one person of the book will deny him, then how come we all exist and all deny? How come even during and after Mirza's life people opposed him?  Ho come in this century Muslims have suffered the most? Doesnt the hadith sharif state that the best time after the first period will be the time of hazrat isa then how come mirza's followers claim he fought British oppression? how come Mirza lived under British rule? How come Mirza had a miserly job prior to his claim of  Barber? surely this was suppose to be mirza's best time? Then why was he cutting the hair of D.C Butler? Mirza is false he is kazaab, he is dajjal, he is ibless, how can a ugly humpback with a defected eye and a wooden leg claim to be a prophet?
 

[Mirza-Ghulam-Ahmad]

How do you know Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam) died in the year 120 AD. You are obviously following Christian tradition which says that Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam) was born in the first year of the Roman calendar. But modern scholars (including non-Muslims) believe that Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam) was born much earlier than 1 AD, and therefore if he lived to about the age of 120 years (which he most definitely did), he would have died much earlier than 120 AD (i.e. before Paul fabricated the concept of trinity).

Concerning the prophecies of Hazrat Buddha (alaihi salaam), yes Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam) was sent primarily for Bani Israil. You should be aware that in the time of Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam), only 2 tribes of Bani Israil were settled in Palestine. Ten other tribes were spread further to the east, reaching as far as present day Afghanistan and Kashmir. These Bani Israil were either heavily influenced by Buddhist thought or were Buddhists themselves. Only Allah ta'alah could know about this outcome, so he gave divine revelation to Hazrat Buddha (alaihi salaam) to inform his people about the advent of Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam) who would journey into their lands and teach the Jews among them (i.e. the Buddhist Israelites). As for non-Israelite Buddhists, let me make something clear to you. Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam) did not preach to non-Israelite Buddhists, if he did it was non intentional. Yet every Buddhist, every Hindu, every Zoroastrian, and every Muslim must believe in Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam) because he was a Messenger of Allah, regardless if he was sent for all humanity or a specific nation or tribe. We must all believe in him, though we do not have to act upon his teachings, because his teachings were specifically for the Bani Israil.

Now you have begun to indulge in certain hadiths in your futile attempt to prove that Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa (sallalaho alaihi wa salaam) is the final prophet of Allah. That is a different topic altogether, first let us conclude our business concerning the death and whereabouts of Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam). As for your objection that Ahmadi Muslims regard some of the teachings of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani (alaihi salaam) over and above some hadis, let me explain why. The hadis were recorded by scholars succeeding Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa (sallalaho alaihi wa salaam) to the third or fourth generations. Thus the possibility of weak, partially true, or even false hadis cannot be ruled out. However, if Allah ta'alah raises a prophet and gives that prophet revelation (which will always be in accordance with the Quran and Sunnat) than that revelation is completely true, and if certain hadiths contradict the revelation than the hadiths must be regarded as false.

Insha Allah is will expand futher to address all the false allegations against Islam Ahmadiyyat.

[irfanrazakhan]

Qadianis (Ahmadiyya) claim that the interpretation of these verses, as taught to us by prophet Muhammad  is false!  They insist that since Mirza Ghulam Qadiani also claimed to be the Promised Messiah, the prophet Jesus  must have died the ayat and hadith sharifs i have mentioned above telling us  They claim that Jesus  was crucified they ignore ayat telling us "nor crucified him" but that he was not dead when he was lowered from the crucifix.  When Jesus  recovered, Qadiani leaders claim, he escaped to Kashmir, India, or two other places? man these people are so confused? where he lived for some 86 years in peace, died, and is buried.


Naturally, Qadianis can not explain why neither Quran nor Hadith of the beloved Prophet  ever put forth this idea or mentioned Kashmir as the living and burial place of Jesus   On the contrary, every authentic Hadith of the Prophet  teaches us that Jesus  was raised to heaven and will descend, in the company of Angels, as the promised Messiah. Even the kufaric gospal by barnabas confirms this!!!  In fact, these same hadith negate the false claim of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani, who was born to an Indian couple and did not descend from heavens.

Now let us look at the fake transaltion of Quraan  by mirza tahir who died of a eruptured large intestine, meaning all his defecation was pouring inside his body!! astagfirullah!! he said in 1987 their is no need for mujadids but few months before the 2000th century he then claimed he was a mujadid? what a clown!!!!!!!






Kanz-ul-Eeman
"Remember, when Allah said; O Isa! I shall cause you to reach to your full life and I shall raise you towards Myself and I shall purify you from the infidels, and shall give your followers superiority over the rejecters until the Day of Resurrection then you all shall come returning to Me: then I shall decide between you concerning that wherein you dispute'. "

English(Yusuf_Ali)
"Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute. "

Please read my explaination in first post hope to see you soon Qadiani saab i think you should take the advice of sister reshma and change your name and your cult, i invite you to islam without any mailce hatred or arrogance i urge you dear human think and judge we are not your enemies but merely trying to help you see truth ... 

[Mirza-Ghulam-Ahmad]

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Kanz-ul-Eeman
But Allah raised him up towards Himself, and Allah is Dominant, Wise. There is not any one of the people of the Book, who will not believe in him before his death, and he will be a witness against them on the Day of judgement. 
Surahe An-Nisaa 156-58

Allah raised Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam) towards Himself. Does this mean Allah physically lifted Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam) from the ground to the location of Allah. If you understand common sense and logic this means Allah was not present at the previous position of Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam) (i.e. Allah was not present Palestine?) You believe wrongly that Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa (sallalaho alaihi wa salaam) is haazir and naazir, but you deny this quality to Allah ta'alah?! (astagfirullah). We Ahmadi KAFIRS believe that Hazrat Isa (Alaihi salaam) died and is buried in Kashmir, his soul (rooh) was spiritually exalted and he achieved closeness to Allah. This teaching is in perfect harmony with the Holy Quran.


"After the first period of islam, this would be the best of periods for the ummah" (Narrated by Hazrat Abu Nuyman bin hammad)

"In that period all relgions of the world will be eliminated except Islam and no disbeliever will remain in the world." (Abu Dawood, Ibn Majah, Ahmad, Muslim)

Now Quraan sharif is stateing That he will be raised, Further it states that when he shall return that not one of the people of the book will deny hazrat isa but here we have Qadiani who not only denied by the people of the book, even the dam idol worshippers cannot accept him to be krishna or  Jai Singh Bahadur for Sikhs  non of the other non people of the book relgions is wiling to accept him, what sort of comedy is this clown trying to crack? To even further supprt the Quranic ayat not that it needs above are strong hadiths too. Which put to shame Mirza and his blind followers. As we know buy now Mirza has a good habit of "shooting his own foot" lets look at what he has to say bearing in mind the above ayat and hadith's.

The meaning of the Promised Messiah wiping out all false religions and establishing the supremacy of Islam doesn't mean he will forcefully convert the kafirs to Islam, that is against the Holy Quran no matter which hadis you quote. It rather means that Promised Messiah will establish the supremacy of Islam through his teachings and writings that no kafir will be able to refute it.

"God has revealed to me that anyone to whom my message has reached and he has not accepted me , he is not a muslim." (Aina-e-Kamalat-e-Islam, Roohani Khazain vol.5 p.547)

One of the Five Articles of Faith is to believe in the Messengers of Allah (that includes Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani). If you reject the Articles of Faith you are rejecting Islam.

"It is our obligation that we do not consider non-ahmadis as muslims and do not pray behind them, because for us they have rejected one prophet (Mirza Ghulam) of God. This is a religious matter and no one has any right to do anything in it." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.167)

How can you reject even one Prophet of Allah and claim to be Muslims. Read the Holy Quran, it admonishes people not to accept some Prophets and reject others. This is why we consider Christians and Jews to be kafir, same goes for those who reject Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani

"All muslims who are included in the initiation of Maseeh Mowood, even if they have not heard the name of Maseeh Mowood, they are Kafir and out of the fold of Islam. I admit that these are my beliefs." (Anwar-e-Khilafat, by Mirza Mahmood, Khalifa 2, p.90)

"Every one who accepts Moses but not Eisa or accepts Eisa but not Muhammad or accepts Muhammad but not Maseeh Mowood, he is not only Kafir but a hardened Kafir and is out of the fold of Islam. (Kalimat-alFasl by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam p.110)

"Thus remember as God has informed me, it is forbidden and absolutely forbidden to pray behind any disbeliever and hesitant; but is should be that your imam should be one of you." (Arba’een No 3, Roohani Khazain vol.17 p.417 footnote

Some one asked a question and Mirza has replied to it. Both are mentioned in his book, Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi. I quote:

"Question: Mirza Ghulam Qadini has mentioned in thousands of places that it is not at all right to call KAFIR a Kalima-go (one who recites a Kalima) and an Ahle-Qibla. It is quite obvious that except those Mo’mineen who become Kafir by rejecting you, just by not accepting you no one becomes a Kafir. But you write to Abdul Hakeem Khan that anyone who has recieved my message and he has not accepted me, he is not muslim. There is contradiction between this statement and the statements in previous books. Earlier in ‘Tiryaq-ul-Quloob’ etc. you had mentioned that no one becomes Kafir by not accepting you and now you are writing that ‘by rejecting me he becomes a Kafir.’

Answer: This is strange that you consider the person who rejects me and the person who calls me Kafir as two different persons, whereas in the eyes of God he is the same type; because he who does not accept me is because he considers me a fabricator.... apart from this, he who does not accept me, he does not believe in God and His Prophet as well, because there is God’s and his Prophet’s prophecy regarding me”"

Milion dollar question: If Quran is stateing that before hazrat isa passes away not one person of the book will deny him, then how come we all exist and all deny? How come even during and after Mirza's life people opposed him?  Ho come in this century Muslims have suffered the most? Doesnt the hadith sharif state that the best time after the first period will be the time of hazrat isa then how come mirza's followers claim he fought British oppression? how come Mirza lived under British rule? How come Mirza had a miserly job prior to his claim of  Barber? surely this was suppose to be mirza's best time? Then why was he cutting the hair of D.C Butler? Mirza is false he is kazaab, he is dajjal, he is ibless, how can a ugly humpback with a defected eye and a wooden leg claim to be a prophet?

Where does Quran state that nobody will reject Hazrat Isa (alaihi salaam)?

As for British rule, not only Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani forbid Jihad against them, but also the majority of the Sunni ulama. I can provide you with dozens of references if you want.

[Qadri-Jilani]

sorry i had to just have another little giggle at being reminded that they believe Hazrat Isa is buried in Mirpur (or some part of kashmir). this kafir movement is such a joke.

[SlaveOfAllah]

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad you people have been exposed, the clan that you belong to are out of the fold of Islam - MAJORITY CONSENSUS OF THE SCHOLARS!!!

Please Allah(swt) let the followers of this imposter prophet die exactly the way he did and on the same place too..IN THE **** TOILET HEAD DOWN!!!!