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This is probably one of the most interesting discussions I have watched in recent times.
Learned brothers and sisters how can we logical address the major premise of his argument?
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Debate - Is Growing Beard Mandatory In Islam?
Posted 30 July 2012 - 08:56 PM (#1)
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 09:29 PM (#2)
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The discussion itself is pretty much a false one in the current scenario. Those that disagree just watch the news for 30 minutes. Its akin to finding your own house on fire and not helping your family - with your wife shouting call the firebrigade and you shouting back not until you grow a beard.
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 10:37 PM (#3)
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Mudassar-Rana, on 30 July 2012 - 09:29 PM, said:
The discussion itself is pretty much a false one in the current scenario. Those that disagree just watch the news for 30 minutes. Its akin to finding your own house on fire and not helping your family - with your wife shouting call the firebrigade and you shouting back not until you grow a beard.
Bro, looking for a serious response
The objective of this thread is to learn counter arguments to a very logical objection.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:06 PM (#4)
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 08:23 PM (#5)
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Salam Tahir bhai,From what I've heard so far his definition of deen is 'that which purifies the body, both inward and outward, and the soul'. That is a novel definition and I thinkOne not shared by the classically trained scholars. So the counterargument is that we do not agree with your premise ie your definition of deen is wrong.
His example of circumcision is also flawed based on his own argument: the reason Muslims remove their foreskin is not primarily for hygiene reasons (as he implies) but because it was done to symbolise the covenant between the Jews and God and we follow that tradition. It is fairly easy to keep the foreskin clean by washing it. So, by his own argument should we stop circumcising our sons?
However I like his approach and intellectual style as opposed to our shouting fire and brimstone all singing maulvis!
His example of circumcision is also flawed based on his own argument: the reason Muslims remove their foreskin is not primarily for hygiene reasons (as he implies) but because it was done to symbolise the covenant between the Jews and God and we follow that tradition. It is fairly easy to keep the foreskin clean by washing it. So, by his own argument should we stop circumcising our sons?
However I like his approach and intellectual style as opposed to our shouting fire and brimstone all singing maulvis!
"the only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars..."
"My intercession is for my sinful followers" - hadith of Sayyidina Rasool Allah sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam
"My intercession is for my sinful followers" - hadith of Sayyidina Rasool Allah sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam
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