United muslims against ahmadies (death to qadiyaniyath)
Posted 14 April 2004 - 12:26 AM (#1)
these r the worst of all.....it cant get any worser..... they call and consider themsleves as muslims........they dont follow a single thing properly....i can go on forever....many ppl r brainwahsed and r discourage to even learn or to know about sunni islam, becoz it doesnt take long for someone to figure out truth, BECOZ TRUTH STANDS OUT CLEAR a far APART FROM falseHOOD and man made lies.......
there kalima says ahmed rasool allah nauzubillah!
they dis respect prophet says he was uneducated and hence there r mistakes in quran...they have changed their quran pray namaz on satellite dish!
anyone who disrespects prophet cannot be forgiven!!no exception unless sincerely apolagizes!
otherwise we will be held accountable
target them...try to convey them the true message...invite them and challenege them!!.......they r supported by some evil jewish and christian and anti muslims groups and organizations...so that they can bring disruption to islam and make islam weak....they often play a role as spies over sunni muslims......some may be good .....but not the majority..they are locked in their false beleifs and are often very rich and sadly very helpful....and very very TEZ!! CLEVER people.....i have had personally experience with many of them......becoz they r totally similar to non muslims actually not non muslims r much better than thm since they atleats dont call themselves muslim ........they easily get support and get backed by westerners becoz they have totally got mixed and adapted to non muslim traditions!!...
I CHALLENGE OPENLY TO QADIYANEES
tell me what u base u iman on...inshallah i will not only prove a qadiyani wrong but prove them utterly wrong...RIGHT ON SPOT....and try to make them realise and will ask them to use self intelligence which we all r blessed with and if allah wills the hidayath in them........they will come on right path inshalllah
they r usually not at all open minded.....some can be exception but here i am talking about the vast majority!
remember my dear brothers and sisters in islam that
silence is the biggest and the ugliest betrayal
may allah bless success to all members of ahl sunnah wal jamaath
Posted 29 April 2004 - 07:58 PM (#2)
Posted 23 May 2004 - 04:25 PM (#4)
Brother, is it safe to say that these people are increasing in the UK becuase of the secret migration of their left over people in Pakistan and India to the western world?
as salam 'alaykom wa rehmatuAllahi wa barakatuHu
Posted 11 July 2004 - 06:36 PM (#6)
I do not think Ahmedies are on the increase elsewhere, including Canada. They have not done as much damages to Islam as the Wahabbies did. They are very much declining in numbers in our parts of the world. I have seen their mosques are empty almost always.
Anyway we hope for the best, and always include in your Du'a to save Islam from its enemies, who are surrounding the faithful Muslims from all directions.
Posted 12 July 2004 - 12:25 AM (#7)
you cant call thier prayer places as Mosques, or thier prayer as namaaz/salah. you can refer to is as a temple. their is Pakistan supreme court ruling on this too.
they are murtad, so they are the worst of manking and waajib-ul-qatil.
ei biradar chu 'aqibat khakast, khaak shawesh az ankei khaak shawee
jarahat al-sinani laha'l-tiyamu ma yaltamu jarahat al-lisani
Posted 17 July 2004 - 10:41 PM (#8)
qadianis are in no way increasing, by any means if they are increasing they are amongst the poor and hungry people who are blindly led by their hunger as our islamic associations have failed to help eg sudan, nigeria etc they have sent their missionaries there who have taken full advantage of their disadvantage and made a fool of the poor and themselves, secondly we find a large community of jahil uneduacted pakistanis following, they show through their media they have large following of vast people no they dont i have even written many letters to their leader in uk atu ur moheeb and i have recieved no response.My determination has helped me revert a lot of qadianis and may allah make us all take up this duty ameen
Posted 16 January 2005 - 04:18 PM (#9)
Another Setback for Ahmadiyya kafirs
Shahid Ahmad Kamal of London Denounces Lanatiyat Qadiyaniat/ahmadiat
Shahid Ahmad Kamal, 38 years old who had been born in a staunch Ahmadi family from India have quit the Jamaat. According to Ummat news he was delegated the task of preaching Ahmadiyyat to college/university students. He made his announcement at the local mosqueFollowing is the text of his statement and letter to Mirza Masroor Ahmad, the Khalifa of Ahmadiyya Movement.
Statement released at the Announcement
I, Shahid Kamal Ahmad, son of Mubarak Ahmad (May Allah rest his soul), aged 38 years, resident of Fulham, London, wish to declare that I was born into Ahmadiyyat, and that I was raised and grew with Ahmadiyyat as my belief, and was involved with the activities of Jamaat Ahmadiyya on an ongoing basis. My involvement raised many questions and doubts in my mind.
For this reason I embarked on a period of study, prayer and research, which has been ongoing for at least a year, but which intensified dramatically in the last three months, since the start of the recent blessed month of Ramadan; to the point where I was reading two to three hundred pages, often much more, of varying texts a day.
I have come to the conclusion that many of Jamaat Ahmadiyya’s concepts and principles are not according to the teachings of Islam and that in some respects, this jamaat actually stands in opposition to Islam.
I wish to declare that I have today dissolved my relationship with Jamaat Ahmadiyya and have detached myself from its teachings.
I am happy and proud to declare that I am now a true Muslim; that I believe that The Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was the last Prophet of Allah and that anyone who claims prophet hood thereafter is not on the right path. I am certain that my Ahmadi relatives and friends will be upset with my decision, but I also believe that if they contemplate my decision sincerely, they will respect it.
Once I was satisfied with my decision that the principles and concepts of Jamaat Ahmadiyya are incorrect, I detached myself from them and ended my association with them. I am ready to face any consequences this may lead to, but my decision will stay the same forever, inshaAllah.
I pray from the bottom of my heart for my children, family, friends and other Ahmadis that Allah gives them the courage and the strength to find the right path - and that they leave the group of people who collect money in the name of a self-professed prophet and a man-made religion. I will also pray for them to come and join the right religion as prescribed by the Qur’an and Sunnah. If Allah gives me the opportunity, I will endeavour to relay more on the subject of my departure, including its public nature, and my embracing of Islam in a larger document.
Last but not least, I would like to thank all the Muslim brothers and sisters who helped me by providing material to engage in my own research and thus become a true Muslim. Hidayah is from Allah alone, but it appears He uses good people to further His Final Message to humanity.
Shahid Kamal Ahmad
Dated: 10 December 2004
Shahid Kamal's letter to Mirza Masroor
22 Waldemar Avenue
London SW6 5NA
10th December 2004
Mr. Mirza Masroor Ahmad
The London Mosque
16 Gressenhall Road
London SW18 5QL
Dear Mr. Masroor Ahmad,
I am writing to advise you that after a lifetime in Jamaat Ahmadiyya, I am terminating my membership with immediate effect.
As you might imagine, this was not an easy decision and I didn’t arrive at it without much deliberation.
I have thought, prayed, studied and meditated for a long time, after much doubt, and despite my service to the jamaat, and the history of service in my family to the jamaat, I came to the conclusion that Jamaat Ahmadiyya is not on the right path.
In order to save my soul, I am proud to declare that I am Muslim. I solemnly witness that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. I also witness that Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa Sallalaho Alayhi Wassalam was the Last Prophet of Allah and that the Holy Qur’an was the Last Revelation from Allah to mankind.
I humbly invite you, and all of Jamaat Ahmadiyya, to follow the path of the Holy Prophet, his family and his Rightly Guided Companions in the service of Islam and to reject any idea that splits the Ummah into sects.
I pray to Allah that inshaAllah; all Ahmadis will receive the hidayah from Allah Almighty to follow the right path. Ameen.
Shahid Kamal Ahmad
cc. Mr. M.A. Rasheed, President, North London Jamaat
We congratulate Mr Shahid for his bold decision, welcome him back to the fold of Islam and pray to Allah to shower His blessings on him and keep him steadfast on Islam. We also pray that may Allah show the right path to other members of his family in particular and other Ahmadis/Qadianis in general. Ameen.
3000 Qadianis/Ahmadis Embrace Islam in India
According to the news published in Daily Hindustan, Mumbai Vol. 69 No. 271 3000 Ahmadis/Qadianis belonging to 1000 households living in 12 villages of Post Rangam Peth, Taluka Shorapur, District Gulbarga (Karnatak), India, have embraced Islam after denouncing Ahmadiyyat. Qadiani muballighs have been working for years in these villages and had converted entire Muslim population of these villages to Ahmadiyyat. Maulana Syed Siddiq Ahmed of Khatme Nabuwwat along with his associates have been working hard to revert them to Islam without much success. Ahmadi muballighs had brain washed these simple villager who refused to listen to any reasoning. However recently Anti Ahmadiyya literature prepared by Dr. Syed Rashid Ali and Ahteshamul Haq Abdul Bari (former Ahmadi) was translated into local Kunar language and distributed among these villagers. Among them was the Pamphlet offering Rs. 5 lacs reward to any Ahmadi who would prove the quotations from the books of Mirza Ghulam therein to be wrong. Local villagers after reading this pamphlet asked the Ahmadi muballighs to reply to this challenge and claim the reward. Ahmadis preachers tried their best to avoid this issue but the villagers kept pressing them. Finally the Ahmadi Muballighs packed up and ran away from these villages. It was then that they realised that these preachers have been deceiving them and then the entire Ahmadi/Qadiani convert community denounced Ahmadiyyat and embraced Islam at the hands of local Khatme Nabuwwat leader, Maulana Syed Siddiq Ahmed. Praise be to Allah for that.
For the information of readers, this pamphlet exposes the duplicity and contradictions in the writings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, the founder of Ahmadiyya Movement, thus proving that he was a liar by his own criteria highlighted in his books:
"The writings of a Liar will definitely contain contradictions." (Zamima Braheen Ahmadiyya part 5, Roohani Khazain vol.21 p.275)
Ahmadis/Qadianis were challenged in this pamphlet to prove that the quotations highlighting the contradictions in the writings of Mirza Ghulam are wrong and earn the reward. This challenge was given in July 2000 but so far no Ahmadi/Qadiani could dare to prove them wrong.
Posted 18 February 2005 - 07:06 PM (#10)
we dis respects prophets since when? and we DON NOT say that tha quran has mistakes we blieve that this book is tha last book till the day of judgementand is tha perfect book no dobt in it i dont know were you have gotten this from. mabey you should do research on ahmaddiya before you start spreading rumours that have no basis on ahmaddiya.
Posted 18 February 2005 - 09:04 PM (#11)
Qadianies are kaafirs, there is no doubt about it. they are the worst kaafirs in the whole universe.
Kazzab Mirza GHULAM Ahmed Qadinai Kafir was a british agent. Allah and all his angels and his slaves send Laanat upon such dirty person. He dared insult Rasoolullah (salam upon him). Insha Allah If I could, I would dig him up, pull him out and feed him to hungry dogs. He and those who show ANY amount of respect towards him, and those who show respect towards those who show respect towards Qadiani the Great Kafir are enemies of Allah and HIS Prophet (salam upon him) and HIS Prophet's Ummah, These heretics will all burn in Eternal Hell Fire, Insha Allah.If you say that all this is a "rumour", then ask these people why they left the "Qadiayaniyyat, The Liar's League" and joined Islam.
Wasalam to those who follow Hidayah.
Posted 02 March 2005 - 04:20 PM (#13)
ummmmm Theres alot of things that you say you dont say... but your guru says and you follow him blindly like lap dogs? There is a basis its what the wrethched qadiani habees wrote in his books!!!!! evidencial proof exists and has been provided!!!!!! on numerous occasions throughout history!!!!!!!
MAY Allah guide you to the sirat al mustqeem
Posted 02 March 2005 - 05:38 PM (#16)
Originally posted by: Waleed Hussain
ummm but what you have said has no bases on what we believe in where have u gotten this from?we dis respects prophets since when? and we DON NOT say that tha quran has mistakes we blieve that this book is tha last book till the day of judgementand is tha perfect book no dobt in it i dont know were you have gotten this from. mabey you should do research on ahmaddiya before you start spreading rumours that have no basis on ahmaddiya.
Ahmadis/Qadianis are kafirs. Thats not a rumour, its a fact. Stay away from these puppets of the british!!!
Posted 06 March 2005 - 11:51 AM (#17)
yeah it seems that these maloons bring this topic up that we are different to qadianis, and lahoris say we are different to ahmadis??????
One group the qadianis, clearly and without and doubts accept qadiani the toilet scrubbber as a prophet!!!!!!
The ahmadi's say he was a reviver, (awliya) and say the other mumbo jumbo and justify through various means.....
Lahoris say he was krishna,messiah,awliya the full works!!!!!!!!!!
the thing is it dont matter what these jerks says because their guru has already made many of these claims and more in his books!!!!! So it doesnt come down to what these parties believe, its what their guru believed and they follow!!!!!!! and he proved that he was kafir through his writing and works and his claims are all proven through all his books...
So qadianis/lahoris/ahmadis let it be known that you follow a kafir and in blindly folllowing you risk your generatons to be kafir too!!!!!
COME BACK TO THE REAL FOLD OF ISLAM!!!!!!
Posted 14 March 2005 - 11:09 AM (#18)
we say la ilaha ilalah muhammadurasululah there is no god but allah and muhammed(peace be upon him) is the messenger of allah- it has been our kalima form the start so stop beleiving wht u guys make up
ppl who r jealous nd r afraid 2 b proved rong allways make stuff up
i dont know where u guyz get all ur ******** against us frm nd as far as ahmadies converting into sunnis r concerned there r billions of sunnis (WHAT A LIE, PLEASE STOP LYING THIS IS NOT A HERESY SITE) out there who hv converted into ahmadies nd r still 2day nd yet they also take the path of christianity hinduism and other religions because u guys r the ones influenced by the western society. (haha)
you guys stopped us from performing hajj (ALLAH HAS DEPRIVED YOU OF ONE OF THE PILLARS OF ISLAM SO THEN HOW ARE YOU QADIANIS/AHMADIS MUSLIMS?) and to this day u guys r killing our ppl nd burning our mosques like wild animals nd there is no where in the entire history where an ahmadi has killed a sunni or burnt a mosque.
by reading all of ur********* it shows tht u ppl need 2 do alot of research on our religion before u jump 2 conclusions nd 2 any1 who wants a challenge us all i hv 2 say is we challenge u 2 nd we will prove u wrong and the dwn fall will b of urz not ours. u guys r the biggest hypocrites nd a disgrace 2 the muslim society. if it wasnt 4 u ppl islam in the media nd wat the world considers islam today wudnt b disgraceful. it is u guys causing rage u guyz tried 2 get rid off us in pakistan but u did not realise tht this was our chance 2 spread the TRUE islam nd by the grace of all mighty allah our religion is spreading nd u guyz cnt do nething abt it
we do not deny or have anything against the holy prophet muhammed peace be upon him he is the cheif of all prophets and we follow and beleive in ALL his teachings and his khulafa-e-rashideen and our quran is not different we accept all prophets, as far as being puppets of the brittish and spies r concerned i dnt no where the hell u ppl came up with tht bcoz u guyz r the ones who do tht stuff, u r the ultimate hypocrytes FACE IT U GUYS R SCARED AND JEALOUS THT WE R SPREADING THE TRUE ISLAM WHICH U GUYS JST DNT WANNA ACCEPT AND IT IS U WHO IS DENYING THE PROPHECIES OF HOLY PROPHET(SAW)IF U call us non muslims nd if u guyz think u r soooo great y dnt u go nd help those poor ppl in nigeria nd sudan..how cum we suceeded nd u failed hence u claim 2 b superior 2 us nd god is with u. u guys r not a good reflection of what a true muslim shud b,
we r then ones who r making islam strong nd will help it prevail it is u tht is causing bad name 2 it...luk at all ur so called muslim brothers nd sisters out ther majority of them hav adapted every western aspect frm clothes 2 language-is this ur tru muslim example
having boyfrends or galfrends nd dressing in such a bad way- is this ur tru muslim reflection they dnt even care abt religion so first sort ur selves out-wht impression dus this give... it illustrates ppl who r insecure nd follows others- who wud want 2 join a religion tht cnt maintain nd control its own standards nd whose ppl go nd follow others
none of my ppl bother talking abt this 2 guyz coz they dnt wanna waste their time with rebellious ppl who deny everything nd even if we do u guyz kill us or send us 2 jail like in pakistan where we r nt even allowed 2 do the azaan out loud or say daruud after the holy prophets (SAW) name- we beleive in jihad of the pen rather than jihad of the soward nd the holy prophet(SAW) always used the choice of war in desperate situations when the whole of islam was under threat- he always used 2 express peace nd being humble by this u cn c there is always objection nd hatered where truth is nd u cn take ahmadiyyat as an example nd dusnt islam mean peace obedience nd submission?, by the luk of things it dusnt seem 2 me tht u guyz do tht.... if u guyz were tru muslims nd followed the holy prophets (SAW) teachings u wudnt hv sed all this nd labelled us as non muslims nd b killing us
if u luk at the history of all the opposing leaders nd groups who tried 2 stp ahmadiyyat u will find tht not only them bt their compainions were punished by allah like general zia ul haq who was the president of pakistan nd made laws in against the freedom nd rights of ahmadies nd had intentions to kill every innocent person from newborn to old ahmadies nd stopped them frm cummin in 2 public nd havin authority 2 buy nething frm the stores nd food, who sent militants jst 2 burn dwn houses nd mosques nd destroy everything got punished by allah nd 2 this day however this challenge was also given 2 ne opposing person bt no1 accepted or replied the outcome of this was tht god will give the punishment of death 2 the rong doer nd by the wrath of god he died. this is only 1 of the many incodents. AND TO THIS DAY NO 1 HAS OR WILL SUCEED IN CAUSING THE DWN FALL OF AHMADIYYAT so all the things u guyz r saying isnt true wht u hv read is the truth nd if u still call us liars it is u tht is the liar nd u will b accountable 4 tht on the day of judgement infrnt of god
wassalaam an ahmadi
P.S WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE THIS IS NOT A KAFIR AHMADI SITE
BUT OF RESPECTFUL AND NOBLE MUSLIMS, WE DO NOT PRACTICE THE FOUL LANGUAGE AND MANNERS OF AHMADIS
Posted 14 March 2005 - 12:48 PM (#19)
INFLUENECD BY WESTERN SOCIETY HAHA? ITS YOUR LANTERENE HOUSES THAT DISPLAY THE UNION JACK OUTSIDE AND YOU ARE VERY PROUD OF YOUR KUFARIC/BRITISH PAY MASTERS!!!
SUNNIS CONVERTING TO KAFIRS? PROVE IT WE HAVE PROVIDED YOU WITH A COPY OF A NATIONAL NEWSPAPER AND YOU SEEM TO BE ON HERESY AS IS THE COMMON TRAIT OF THE LIARS!! WE DIDNT STOP YOU FROM ANYTHING ALL IS BY THE WILL OF ALLAH!! DO YOU BELIEVE IN WILL OF ALLAH? SO I GUESS YOU DONT BELIEVE ALLAH? LISTEN AHMADIS ARE KAFIRS WHAT IS THE SHARIA PUNISHMENT FOR THOSE THAT ARE ONE TIME MUSLIMS AND GO OUT OF THE FOLD OF ISLAM? DO YOU FOLLOW SHARIA? I GUESS YOU DONT ONLY MUSLIMS DO!!! LISTEN MATE THE DOWN FALL HAS ALWAYS BEEN YOURS!! from the time of mirza mubhalas where carried out and it seems The qadianis/ahmadis where and are always the butt of the jokes!!! You said "YOUR RELIGION IS SPREADING"???? SO ITS DEFNITELY DIFFERENT TO OURS? WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 1400 YEARS AND NO ONE COULD VANISH US WHO ARE YOU?
MARTHE HAIN MARJAYGE ADHA TERE, KATHE KAT CHAYGE ADHA TERE
NA MITHA NA MITHKE CHARCHA TERA YA RASOOL ALLAH
jealous of kafirs who are hell bound? NO I DONT THINK SO!! IT IS THE DUTY OF EVERY MUSLIM TO SEEK AND TELL THE TRUTH SOMETHING WHICH KAFIRRS ARE UNAWARE OF!!!
YOU CLAIMING TO BE SUPERIOR DOES NOT MAKE YOU ONE, YOU HELPED THE POOR OF AFRICA BECAUSE THEY WHERE VUNERABLE, ITS PROVEN THAT YOU ONLY HELP THEM SO YOU CAN CARRY OUT YOUR MISSIONARY WORK!! THEY ARE BORN MUSLIMS YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR HUNGER AND MAKE THEM KAFIR!! WELL YOU DO TRY!!
WE ARE not true muslims? amazing a kafir is going to tell muslims that they are not muslims, is that why no one no matter what sect they are do not accept you as muslims? MORE OFTEN THEN NOT ONE WHO CALLS THE OTHER KAFIR ONE IS KAFIR !! AND THE MAJORITY PROVE WHO ARE THE REAL KAFIRS!! THE PROPHET SAID WHEN IN DOUBT OF ANYTHING HOLD FAST TO THE MAJORITY!!!!! OH I FORGOT YOU DONT FOLLOW WHAT THE PROPHET OF ISLAM TAUGHT, YOU FOLLOW QADIANI AND HIS PUPPIES!!! LIKE MR ATA MOHEEB UR REHMAN!!! WHO RUNS AWAY OR PUTS THE PHONE DOWN WHEN CHALLENGED AND HIDES FROM MUSLIMS!!! OR IS MASOOR MIRZA WHO HIDES BEHIND GUARDS? MUSLIMS WELCOME SHAHADAT!! WHILE THE KAFIRS HIDE FROM IT!!! WHAT MORE PROOF DO MUSLIMS NEED!!!!
not only can you not know about jihad of the sword (because you aint muslim), but you are neither any good at the pen (which you claim), or nafs jihad !!! its true jahils only follow qadiani so how you do they do jihad with pen, i dont know? dont tell me qadianis blasphemous books where jihad, ive heard it a million times!! WE THE UMMATE MUHAMMADIYA ARE witnesses over where ALL!!!!!! WE BEAR WITNESS THAT YOU REJECT THE MESSAGE OF THE PROPHET OF ISLAM END OFF!!
i have openly challenged many of you maloons but you seem to run away, every MUSLIM child can put you to shame!!! The kufar cannot judge us, for Allah is our judge, why is it you berks use zia ul haq as a example!! zia ul haq was shaheed SOMETHING WHICH KAFIR MIRZA AND HIS CHILDREN CANT EVEN DREAM OFF!!! and as theory has it he was killed by Ahmadis/qadianis/lahoris british dads!!!
SO YOU HAND OUT THE WRATH OF ALLAH BECAUSE SOMEONE BANDS YOUR LITERATURE? QUITE OPPOSITE TO WHAT THE PROPHET OF ISLAM SAID HE WAS STONED AND HE PRAYED FOR PEOPLE THATS ISLAM!!! NOT WHAT THE KAFIRS HAVE TAUGHT YOU FAIZA... mirza qadiani the monkey was challenged and he ended up dead in a toilet? prophets and awliya are beautified AND PRAISED!! how ugly was that humpback one eyed escapee from the zoo in lahore? Read about what The nobles of Islam had to say about such monkeys who where babers for a gentlemen by the name of Mr D.C Butler!!!!!
oh i thought that bangeli pm was suppose to die too? she banned your literature? but it seems that monkey tahir mirza died of a large intestine eruption instead oh really proves your point? why is it these people always die in poo POO?
we ALWAYS HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL STAND TALL IN THE CHALLENGES OF THE KAFIRS!!