[Nottelling]

Allah ke naam se shure kar ke

peace upon the holy prophet (Sallala ho Alaihi wassalam)

this book is for the whole world. specialy for the Ulema.

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[CashewNut]

Nottelling, on 13 July 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

Allah ke naam se shure kar ke

peace upon the holy prophet (Sallala ho Alaihi wassalam)

this book is for the whole world. specialy for the Ulema.

read it and if you like please forward the message.

As far as I know from people there are two AwliyaAllah who qualifies to be Ghawth at present time. One of theze two is the Ghawth.



Sayyidul Aulia Khwaja Peer Rahmat Karim Sahib








Sultanul Awliya Shayk Nazim

[Mudassar-Rana]

Can you provide any information on the first one you mentioned?

[CashewNut]

Mudassar-Rana, on 13 July 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

Can you provide any information on the first one you mentioned?

This is what I found on the first one :

http://auliaallah.bl...hmat-karim.html

[Desert-Sheikh]

CashewNut, on 13 July 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

This is what I found on the first one :

http://auliaallah.bl...hmat-karim.html

Can someone please explain this to me?

Every Thursday evening ( the evening of Zikr) at Hazrat Sahibs darbar , Sultanul Hind Syyedina Hazrat MohinUddin Chisti Ajmeri Rahmatullah Alayh , comes and visits Khwaja Pir Rahmat Karim Sahib and they have theyre private conversation with each other. Several times a year a 600 year old grandson of Hazrat Ghause Azam Radiyallahu Ta Ala Anu , Hazrat Suleiman Shah Gillani visits Pir Sahib. He is the one who will recognize Imam Mahdi Sahib when the time aproaches.

[Mudassar-Rana]

CashewNut, on 13 July 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

This is what I found on the first one :

http://auliaallah.bl...hmat-karim.html

lol! thats the one i found as well! thanks for trying.

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[arzooemadinah]

CashewNut, on 13 July 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

As far as I know from people there are two AwliyaAllah who qualifies to be Ghawth at present time. One of theze two is the Ghawth.
Sayyidul Aulia Khwaja Peer Rahmat Karim Sahib
Sultanul Awliya Shayk Nazim

how you know these 2 qualify and can you help us to let us know the procedure how one qualify and who got authority to qulafy anyone.

This post has been edited by Desert-Sheikh: 24 July 2012 - 07:14 PM

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Desert-Sheikh, on 13 July 2012 - 11:53 PM, said:

Can someone please explain this to me?

Every Thursday evening ( the evening of Zikr) at Hazrat Sahibs darbar , Sultanul Hind Syyedina Hazrat MohinUddin Chisti Ajmeri Rahmatullah Alayh , comes and visits Khwaja Pir Rahmat Karim Sahib and they have theyre private conversation with each other. Several times a year a 600 year old grandson of Hazrat Ghause Azam Radiyallahu Ta Ala Anu , Hazrat Suleiman Shah Gillani visits Pir Sahib. He is the one who will recognize Imam Mahdi Sahib when the time aproaches.

If he is 600 years was before how old he is now. And why sultanul hind visits they can converse from the places they live.

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arzooemadinah, on 24 July 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

how you know these 2 qualify and can you help us to let us know the procedure how one qualify and who got authority to qulafy anyone.

Brother,I do not wish to go into any arguments on what makes them qualify to be ghaus,because I dont know, but I can say this much that from what I have heard from murids of pir Tahir Alauddin Siddiqi sahib, they say there own pirsahib says it that the first Shayk (Rehmat Karim sahib) is a Ghaus. I guess the Awliya knows this.

And Naqshbandis says that Shayk Nazim is..

But to make it very short and simple. Spend some time in the presence of both Shayks,you will feel it that one of these is the ghaus. I have been blessed to visit both of them

[Mudassar-Rana]

CashewNut, on 24 July 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:

Brother,I do not wish to go into any arguments on what makes them qualify to be ghaus,because I dont know, but I can say this much that from what I have heard from murids of pir Tahir Alauddin Siddiqi sahib, they say there own pirsahib says it that the first Shayk (Rehmat Karim sahib) is a Ghaus. I guess the Awliya knows this.

And Naqshbandis says that Shayk Nazim is..

But to make it very short and simple. Spend some time in the presence of both Shayks,you will feel it that one of these is the ghaus. I have been blessed to visit both of them

I normally dont make statements like this but the first person definately oozes proximity to the creator.

[CashewNut]

Mudassar-Rana, on 24 July 2012 - 09:42 PM, said:

I normally dont make statements like this but the first person definately oozes proximity to the creator.

Imam Nawawi (Radi Allahu ta'ala Anhu), and also Ibn Maja (Radi Allahu
ta'ala Anhu) report that when Sayyadina Rasoolallah (Salla Allahu ta'ala
Alayhi wa Sallam) was asked about the characteristics of the Awliya, he
declared, “Allah is remembered when they are seen.”

[arzooemadinah]

cashew if there is no gauth what will happen then and if every silsila will bring one gauth from there silsila how many gauth will come at one time , yeh maskha hay boht sanjedha is per amm discussion sahi nahe kay kon gauth hay or kon nahe.

[AlGilani]

what I have heard from murids of pir Tahir Alauddin Siddiqi sahib, they say there own pirsahib says it that the first Shayk (Rehmat Karim sahib) is a Ghaus. I guess the Awliya knows this...........

If you are referring to Qudwatul Awliya Hazoor Pir Syedna Tahir Allauddin AlGillani AlBaghdadi (ra) then I can assure you 100% that this is a LIE being falsely attributed to them.

[CashewNut]

AlGilani, on 25 July 2012 - 02:37 AM, said:

what I have heard from murids of pir Tahir Alauddin Siddiqi sahib, they say there own pirsahib says it that the first Shayk (Rehmat Karim sahib) is a Ghaus. I guess the Awliya knows this...........

If you are referring to Qudwatul Awliya Hazoor Pir Syedna Tahir Allauddin AlGillani AlBaghdadi (ra) then I can assure you 100% that this is a LIE being falsely attributed to them.

Brother, I am not talking about Qudwatul Awlia Pir Syedina Tahir Alauddin Al Gillani Al Baghdadi (ra) , im talking about the pir below in the picture:

[zahra_1234]

subhanAllah i love Shaykh Rehmat Kareem and Shaykh Nazim (may Allah preserve both of them Ameeen) for the sake of Allah SWT. and inshAllah i hope this love for them will purify my heart because it is for the sake of Allah swt. and I AM NOT TO JUDGE who is Gauth, who is not. Allah knowth the best.

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arzooemadinah, on 24 July 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

cashew if there is no gauth what will happen then and if every silsila will bring one gauth from there silsila how many gauth will come at one time , yeh maskha hay boht sanjedha is per amm discussion sahi nahe kay kon gauth hay or kon nahe.

"Behold! Verily on the Friends of Allah there is no fear nor shall they grieve"
Quran (Surah10: Verse 62)




To suggest that if there was no ghaus then what ,is an absurd thought. The existance of AwliyaAllah is mentioned in Quran so we stick to that reality instead of thinking otherwise. Also Hadith explains the hirarchy of AwliyaAllah:



‘Abdullah ibn Mas’ud radiyallahu ta'ala 'anhu narrates that Rasulullah sallallahu 'alaihi wasallam said:


“There are 300 friends of Allah in the creation whose hearts are like that of Prophet Adam ‘alaihis salam. There are 40 whose hearts are similar to the heart of Musa ‘alaihis salam and 7 whose hearts are similar to the heart of Ibrahim ‘alaihis salam. There are 5 whose hearts are like that of Jibra’il and 3 whose hearts are like that of Mika’il and one whose heart is like the heart of Israfil. When he (whose heart is like Israfil) dies, then one of the three whose heart is like Mika’il replaces him and one of the five (whose hearts are like Jibra’il) replaces him. One of the seven replaces one of the five, one of the forty replaces one of the seven and one of the three-hundred replaces one of the forty and a normal Muslim replaces one of the three-hundred. It is due to these 356 awliya that creation are given life and killed, due to them rain falls, vegetation grows and difficulties are removed” ( Abu Nu’aym fi Hulya; ibn Asakir)



Yes,indeed every silsila can produce their own "ghaus" as a "ghaus" is a head of their tariqas, but I wasnt talking about that kind of ghuas.But a ghaus for all AwliyaAllah. I found this blog interesting about Shayk Nazim that one of his late Khalifas says its wrong of Shayk Nazims murids to give him certain "titles" that doesnt belong to him.


NAQSHBANDI SHAYKH: STOP EXAGGERATIONS ABOUT MAULANA SHAYKH NAZIM


I done some further investigation and found this on : http://eshaykh.com/s...m/tai-al-lisan/


Question:

Salaam, Can Anyone Prove Or Provide Evidence When Shiekh Nazim Al Haqqani Has Said He Is Sultan Of Auliya? Every Aulia Or Peer Ive Asked They Have Said He Is Not The Sultan Of Aulia And His? Mureeds Are Making False Accusations.

I Asked My Shiekh Who Is Auliya And Said He Isnt Sultan of Auliya.. But Is One Of The 40 Abdaals To Be More Cleared Is Abrar.
Second:

My Shiekh Has Tai’ Al Lisan And Can Complete 2 Qurans in 2 Mins. If Shiekh Nazim Is Truly Sultan Of Auliya Then Ask Him To Use Tai ‘Al Lisan And Complete 2 Qurans Quicker Than 2 Mins.

Answer:

Alaykum salam,

From what I know Mawlana Shaykh Nazim never called himself that, but only his teacher Mawlana Shaykh Abd Allah Daghistani, Allah sanctify their secrets. Mawlana Shaykh Hisham said that the latter could complete two khatams with every inspiration and expiration of breath. As for Mawlana Shaykh Nazim’s level in that respect, it has not been disclosed yet. And yes, the murids do call him that and it is haqq.

Hajj Gibril Haddad



I guess this excludes Shayk Nazim from beeing a ghaus ,but that he rather is one of the 40 Abdals?? Because I also found a video where Shayk Nazim indicates to his murids that his rank is not so high there are higher than him::

http://www.sufilive....eople-4446.html



Anyways I love all AwliyaAllah , no matter rank they have.

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