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Posted 26 June 2012 - 03:53 PM (#1) User is offline   Desert-Sheikh 

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Abdul Sattar Edhi, left, has a meal with children living in one of his charity houses in Karachi, Pakistan. Edhi is a devout Muslim, but critical of Islamic clerics in general, not just extremists. He says they focus on ritual, preaching hellfire and defending the faith against imagined enemies, rather than helping the poor - which he says should be the cornerstone of all faiths.

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Is there anyone else to whom a laborer can happily give his money?

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Is there any Pir, Sufi, Shaykh, Politician, Leader or King who's house matches the grandeur of the Edhi's house?

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No doubt, he is the living 'Data Sahib'....who else can be?

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 03:53 PM (#2) User is offline   taz24 

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assalamualaykum,

i agree that he has done a lot and he does not live a luxury life from what someone said to me.

Unfortunatley some of our so called leaders i think are living very luxury lifes
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 07:39 PM (#3) User is offline   Fatema-the-resplendent 

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I love the second photo it says so much!
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 09:32 PM (#4) User is offline   blogger 

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View PostDesert-Sheikh, on 26 June 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:



Is there any Pir, Sufi, Shaykh, Politician, Leader or King who's house matches the grandeur of the Edhi's house?


Not to name names but yes there are a few well known Sufi Shaykhs that I am aware of living in humble surroundings similar to Edhi saheb's.

What is unique about Edhi Saheb is the way he reaches out/interacts with the common man, he is approachable (there is very little distance) if only our shaykhs were as approachable and accessible.

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 09:37 PM (#5) User is offline   Mudassar-Rana 

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The whole world says the Kohinoor is in London ... i am adamant he is in Karachi!

There will of course be people who maynot be well known but they are in their own capacity helping humanity. Pakistan survives because of them - nay it flourishes because of them. Otherwise with the rulers we have had ... how the hell did we become a nuclear power?

Correct me if I am wrong - isnt there a hadith that the scholar who calls himself a scholar isnt one?
my brothers are those who will believe in me, without having seen me.” [Ahmad, Musnad]

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 03:42 PM (#6) User is offline   taz24 

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assalamualaykum,

yes pakistan has become a nuclear power but with these leaders.
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 03:53 PM (#7) User is offline   Know-the-Ledge 

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Masha'Allah...but he is a wali Allah
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 04:02 PM (#8) User is offline   Mudassar-Rana 

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After a recent massacre of bus passengers going to iran Edhi Sahib fainted at the funeral - May Allah grant him quick return to health.Ameen
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 04:22 PM (#9) User is offline   Fekay 

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View PostMudassar-Rana, on 09 July 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

After a recent massacre of bus passengers going to iran Edhi Sahib fainted at the funeral - May Allah grant him quick return to health.Ameen


Ameen!

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:19 PM (#10) User is offline   taz24 

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assalamu alaykum,

I heard that he was a maulana in his earlier lifetime. Was he a maulana in our sunni masjids?

I am not trying to create a big issue is he sunni or not i just was interested
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View Posttaz24, on 10 July 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

assalamu alaykum,

I heard that he was a maulana in his earlier lifetime. Was he a maulana in our sunni masjids?

I am not trying to create a big issue is he sunni or not i just was interested


Wa Alaikum mus Salam,

I think he's Edhi (serves all who are in need, regardless of their religion, race, or political affiliation).

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 10:49 PM (#12) User is offline   arzooemadinah 

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DS brother right I dont think any pir sufi we can find who is living this simple life if there are few but they still using there piri muredi and sufisiam as there jaydad and making there olaad khilafahs etc /gadi nasheen as there reflections all on futture but no one as edhi masha Allah.

compare the dunavi pirs how they live , they want 100 mureds day and night with them kissing there hands and feet and they want to sit on high chairs , look how edhi living he is the biggest pir as DS bhai said he is data sahub he is right.

piron ky sufiahs ki astany hain khanqahen hain gadi nasheen hain murny per mazar bunty hain but edhi dont need any gadi nasheen any astana and mazar .

kiya kisi pir ko yeh jaiz hay kay big astany or mazar banaye jub kay us kay mureed bhook say mur rhya hoon we dont need any murshids and pirs we dont need whabi and sunni we need edhis jo makhloq ko roti or makan dey rahy hain.

or woh is liye kay un kay dil main khoof e khuda zinda hay.


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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:14 PM (#13) User is offline   Desert-Sheikh 

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View Postarzooemadinah, on 10 July 2012 - 10:49 PM, said:

DS brother right I dont think any pir sufi we can find who is living this simple life if there are few but they still using there piri muredi and sufisiam as there jaydad and making there olaad khilafahs etc /gadi nasheen as there reflections all on futture but no one as edhi masha Allah.


When i said is there anyone else, i just exaggerated because i was referring to famous or mainstream scholars/pirs but i wasn't targeting them at all, i was just highlighting the hard-work and efforts of Edhi Sahib. There are Pirs who live simplest life even than Edhi sahib, like Hazrat Shaykh Murabit al Hajj.

Shaykh Hamza Yusuf and Shaykh Habib Ali Jifri, visiting The legendary Sheikh Murabit al-Hajj in Mauritania.

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By the way, i agree with you on makhloq-ki-khidmat, poorer wouldn't care about any Imam or Pir except Rotti (bread). Hazrat Baba Farid-ul-Din Ganj-Shakar consider Rotti, the sixth pillar of Islamic faith because poverty can take one upto kufr.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:21 PM (#14) User is offline   The-Mughal-Sister 

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Edhi is a great man full stop. Why do we have to compare others to him? What is the point of that? Isn't everyone good in their own right?

People are blessed in their own right to make a difference however they see fit, some may bring people onto deen, others may feed them or help them to a better life. Why does one have to be better than the other?
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This peer bashing is becoming very repetitive and boring.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:23 PM (#15) User is offline   Fekay 

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View PostDesert-Sheikh, on 10 July 2012 - 11:14 PM, said:

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Subhanallah, I love that picture!! So humble and peaceful.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:35 PM (#16) User is offline   Know-the-Ledge 

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Edhi is a philanthropist, not a pir or scholar; great in his own right, but I wouldn't go to him for sacred knowledge; no one man has exclusivity on greatness and we should stop qualifying our standards to be 'exclusive' but 'inclusive' of all. It takes a collective to make a society, communal rejuvenation will never take flight if we don't recognise and respect the widewide spectrum of people required to make that progress.
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Great work for sure. There was some sort of scandal with some of his ambulances who were refusing to take people in emergencies to hospital because of a lack of upfront funds. I'll try to get more details.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 02:51 AM (#18) User is offline   arzooemadinah 

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View PostThe-Mughal-Sister, on 10 July 2012 - 11:21 PM, said:

Edhi is a great man full stop. Why do we have to compare others to him? What is the point of that? Isn't everyone good in their own right?

People are blessed in their own right to make a difference however they see fit, some may bring people onto deen, others may feed them or help them to a better life. Why does one have to be better than the other?
We know nothing of what Allah knows.

This peer bashing is becoming very repetitive and boring.



This is not pir bashing sister , as a duniavi life etc we talking just simple most pirs inherit piri muredi as a bussiness and gadi nasheni from there fathers and pass this all as ainheritance to there sons , regardless if they capable or not and we not talking about all but most of them even ruling on cities and towns as a king . There wealth etc comes from men and they get whatever they want from mureeds but edhi sahub gave his last pence to humanity . And as human its very hard when one can double his money on humanity name as others are doing and one spend his all wealth etc .

you may be in hurry when you post this post but no one is pir bashing we talking reality .

There is a big differnce for example a person give 5000 pound to a pir or to a scholer he will put that money in his pocket by thinking because he is waliAllah etc and he is having this as a gift from his admirers or mureeds so he deserve it but if edhi sahub have that he will not sleep until he will spend all money to humans before he sleeps the same night and this is the differce between .

no doubt there are few pirs and scholers are doing the same but very few , most of them you can see living in big big houses and living a luxury life cashing there fathers names etc.We not talking individually just talking majority.
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Read his autobiography as narrated to Tehmina Durrani - about as beneficial for the soul as any other Islamic book.

His religious views are somewhat esoteric for a narrow-minded person such as myself. Some of his statements can be easily misunderstood as anti-religious, but he is religious in his own way and wants people to be religious in that way too. He is not an Imam or Mawlana (in fact he hates being called Mawlana) but his actions and life are prophetic.


In other news, passed all my exams with your duas alhamdulillah. Just spreading the love!
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 01:54 PM (#20) User is offline   Fatema-the-resplendent 

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View Postseeker, on 11 July 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:



In other news, passed all my exams with your duas alhamdulillah. Just spreading the love!


[size="4"]Well done! I'm sure it feels great.

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