[The-Mughal-Sister]

The ever long debate which stands side by side with evolution and the big bang theory, these are important questions which the rest of humanity must strive to study and derive the truth from!

Lol! I’m just yanking your chain! I just wanted to get this debate going as I’ve heard many sides opposing hijaabis and favouring non hijaabis.

The vibe on the street is hijaabis are morally corrupt than non-hijaabi, they are far more mischievous, daring, wild and bold, no these are not mutants from Twilight, these are girls wearing a headscarf called a hijaab.
In their defence I would have to say, just because a girl wears the hijjab doesn’t mean to say she is perfect, she is complete, and she is a model citizen, it’s your assumptions which are wrong. In Islam girls are advised to cover their hair, and this is a positive step, is it not? Is it wrong for a girl to be confident, daring and outspoken, must we always be the submissive?

On the other side is the non-hijabis, the girls with the lovely straight or curly tresses and have to spend hours doing their hair before going to work/school ! It is said, they are far more grounded, level headed as their parents do not enforce the hijaab on them, and are not as strict.

So guys, you must go to school/college/uni or work, what is your personal opinion? Have the Hijaabi girls got it all wrong? Must we liberate these young girls from their hijaab to get some normal behaviour out of them? Or are they a disaster waiting to happen?
Or have people become prejudice and judgmental? Expecting the bearded youth to be a model Muslim, and the non bearded to ‘do as he pleases’? That was just an example; I would like to keep the topic initially to Hijaabis please.

I look forward to your replies.

[sunniskeptic]

Nice one--now wait till you hear my answer (flack jacket on!) : No one can deny that hijaab -- i.e. covering the head with cloth -- is a part of shariat which is fard for
women BUT (and there's always a but--or should I say butt--) what I've found at university is that many girls who wear the hijaab pair it together with the highest heels and the most skin-tight jeans you can buy -- which kind of defeats the purpose in my book.

Then again, I think the hijaab looks tres chic...and very feminine...


(like Audrey Hepburn in Breakfast at Tiffany's) but I think it is completely wrong to judge someone on their appearance; I've known girls who wore the hijaab who've
done things and admitted to them which would get me an instant ban if I was to describe them and I know girls who do not wear any hijaab and yet are chaste and untouched by any man. And the reverse is true too--so don't judge by appearances...

ever.

[Malaaikah]

Because I dont live in a Muslim dominated area I think my views may be a little different. I dont see as many hijabis around so those who wear the hijaab do so solely for the Pleasure of Allah and no other reason, they have the freedom of choice in the matter. I dont really want to be judging as to who is better because at the end of the day its the intentions which go with each act that matters and not just the actions.

I also think it is wrong for society to be stereotyping against hijabis and seeing them as worse than non hijabis because Islam shouldnt be portrayed in this manner, especially in the west where we should be doing dawah not turning people away from Islam so for non Muslims it isnt a great thing.

It can be seen as a good thing by ourselves because well I see it as a test from Allah and I dont think we should be seen any greater than non hijaabis or any graeater than anyone, its our end that really matters. As Allah's Beloved Messenger Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam said, “A man may do what seem to the people as the deeds of the dwellers of Paradise but he is from the dwellers of the Hell-Fire and another may do what seem to the people as the deeds of the dwellers of the Hell-Fire, but he is from the dwellers of Paradise.”

[pearlsofMadinah]

I think the most important difference between a hijaabi and a non, is that the hijaabi however bad a person she is, is at the end of the day following a command of Allah swt. We also know that the punishment for not wearing a hijab is not a light one, which of course makes sense since our Lord is telling us to do something and we are disobeying him, SubhanAllah. That being said, I think someone mentioned that some girls clad in hijab will wear clothing that is not modest.We must remember that Allah swt also tells us to be modest. I think it is possible to be modest and yet not wear hijab likewise it is possible to be a hijabi and immodest. Allah swt tells us to be modest and this includes a hijaab of the eyes, ears, hands. I recall reading once that Fatima R.A said that the woman's best garment (?) is her shyness/modesty. In the end, I think that I rarely see people who wear hijaab wear it appropriately i.e modestly which is a shame because the hijaab is beautiful and should be respected. I dont know though sometimes I get the feeling that non hijaabis use the 'hijabis are s****s' argument to excuse themself from something that is fardh. I also think that these Youtube HIjaabi gurus are deviating from the essnce of hijab further leading hundreds astray with them. I also think that we can do to change this opinion is to start from home and observe the hijaab appropraitely. And Allah swt knows best.

[Fatema-the-resplendent]

The idea that piety can only be sought through the Hijab is a hugely misguided view for very obvious reasons. Piety is a burden on Women since she has to physically prove it unlike Man. Her piety is supposed to be visible, like wearing hijab, dressing modestly, not talking to Men, keeping her voice and eyes hidden, and only then will she be 'accepted' as a pious woman. Recently the debate of the Saudi hijab wearing Olympic Athlete has been labelled as a whore by her countrymen for daring to compete in the Olympic games. So it becomes apparent that a womans chastity does not belong to her in an Islamic society and that she is scrutinized even whilst wearing the hijab.

In my opinion the 'hijabi' and 'non-hijabi' are one and the same and those who make a distinction are actually only pointing to their own prejudices and lack of thought.

[Bint-e-Hawa]

Hijjab refers to modest dress in general and head-covering in particular. The Islamic requirement is to loosely cover all but the face, hands and feet, avoiding sheer angles and revealing little of the body. Across the world, local variations on this theme prevail: the long Abaya gowns of the Gulf region, the Jilbab in Syria and Jordan, and the Burqa in Afghanistan. In Iran, there is the Chador.


But as new generations of Muslim women came of age, they found ways for hijab to complement, rather than stymie, a growing desire for self-expression. And with them came a new breed of designer and entrepreneur—many of them women—whose specialization in “hijab fashion” came to prominence in the mid-2000s. As a result, Muslim women now have more to choose from, with mainstream retailers producing maxi dresses and maxi skirts which Muslim women adore: long and loose and perfectly in line with the latest trends. It's even made modestly itself fashionable: able to express themselves creatively with it, more Muslim women now say they do or want to wear hijjab,but they often forgot to keep the true meaning of HIJJAB.

and the point where is the modesty of these Hijjabi, honestly I feel if you force someone to do something they tend to go in opposite direction....majority of the parents force or tell there girls to wear hijjab from a very young age and hardly few of them explain why is it so important to wear Hijjab??what's the reason behind it?? I am pretty sure most of you often experienced your family members telling their girls"to cover their hair/head"" and they just cover their hair/head and so use to off it and almost forgot about their body....

one of the sis said wearing hijjab does not mean you are a good Muslim...100000000000% agreed with this never judge a book by it's cover"

[4dvti]

good points mentioned by the OP. It's good food for thought...

[H@ydR]

Fatema-the-resplendent, on 02 August 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

The idea that piety can only be sought through the Hijab is a hugely misguided view for very obvious reasons. Piety is a burden on Women since she has to physically prove it unlike Man. Her piety is supposed to be visible, like wearing hijab, dressing modestly, not talking to Men, keeping her voice and eyes hidden, and only then will she be 'accepted' as a pious woman. Recently the debate of the Saudi hijab wearing Olympic Athlete has been labelled as a whore by her countrymen for daring to compete in the Olympic games. So it becomes apparent that a womans chastity does not belong to her in an Islamic society and that she is scrutinized even whilst wearing the hijab.

In my opinion the 'hijabi' and 'non-hijabi' are one and the same and those who make a distinction are actually only pointing to their own prejudices and lack of thought.

Salam, Labaik Ya Nabi & Ya Ali Madad!


I agree with you, society has placed too much burden on women. However Najdi Saudia is no example, it is ruled by a bunch of hypocrite bedouins and rabid mullahs. I curse them in my salat everyday! the issue of hijab has been taken too far as a standard to distinguish between modesty and immodesty. The only Islam people see is through the veils of their wives. With all due respect, if it is possible i wish to apologise to all good muslim women who are subjected to humiliation by ugly men.

[qalam]

salam

just wear it - end of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dr aq

[Scotty]

I think girls should wear the hijab. But I think it should be explained better why it matters.

My mum has started wearing the hijab. But I'm not going to grow a beard

[Scotty]

I just had a thought on this.

If a muslim man marries a non-muslim girl, then what is the consensus on her then wearing the hijab? Is it expected that she should wear it even though she isn't muslim, or is it optional according to her religion?

It's one of those things you need to know when you are considering relationships, so I'm curious what the consensus on this is.

[Fatema-the-resplendent]

Scotty, on 24 October 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

I just had a thought on this.

If a muslim man marries a non-muslim girl, then what is the consensus on her then wearing the hijab? Is it expected that she should wear it even though she isn't muslim, or is it optional according to her religion?

It's one of those things you need to know when you are considering relationships, so I'm curious what the consensus on this is.

It's a very good question! But I think you answered it yourself. A non Muslim does not need to wear the hijab for reasons to do with her faith. But there is always the risk of marrying a non muslim who may never accept Islam.

[Scotty]

Fatema-the-resplendent, on 24 October 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

It's a very good question! But I think you answered it yourself. A non Muslim does not need to wear the hijab for reasons to do with her faith. But there is always the risk of marrying a non muslim who may never accept Islam.

I thought that was the case. But it's good to know for sure.

[sunniskeptic]

H@ydR, on 27 September 2012 - 01:38 PM, said:

it is ruled by a bunch of hypocrite bedouins and rabid mullahs. I curse them in my salat everyday! the issue of hijab has been taken too far as a standard to distinguish between modesty and immodesty. The only Islam people see is through the veils of their wives. With all due respect, if it is possible i wish to apologise to all good muslim women who are subjected to humiliation by ugly men.

Steady on bro! I ain't no fan of the Wahabis but apart from the word 'bedouin' your above quote applies equally to Iran too. -- ruled by rabid mullahs and not exactly the epicentre of women's freedom either!

And why on Earth would you curse people everyday in your salat. Our Prophet was not sent to curse anyone but as Mercy unto the Worlds...Wahabis are still Muslims and no Muslim - or even human -- should be cursed.

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Women should wear hijab if they want to and not wear it if they don't want to.

[sunniskeptic]

Shall I quote from Saint Christopher Wallace on the subject of women?