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Tehran Voices All-out Support For Damascus

Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:41 PM (#21) User is offline   Mudassar-Rana 

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View PostMagnet, on 15 March 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:


I agree with your statement. It may not be religious, but it is sectarian based on political goals. I'm defending the Muslims who are being massacred in Syria right now. It's a religious obligation to defend our brothers and sisters. I'm not trying to be sectarian, but let's face the fact - the Syrian war is sectarian. Go talk to the average Shia on the street and they will be either pro-Assad or indifferent, just like Iran and Hezbul-Shaytaan (who are pro-Assad). Of course, there are Shias are who are independent thinkers and support Assad's downfall, but they are a minority. Who are the ones being killed on a massive scale in Syria? The Sunnis. When the Assad regime bombed Homs, they only bombed the Sunni neighborhoods and left all the Alawite neighborhoods. When the Alawite Shabiha and the security apparatus kidnap girls by offering them taxi rides and then taking them to security buildings where they are raped, they are always Sunni girls. You know what is sickening even more? I have seen numerous videos of this, the regime Alawite kidnappers target *specifically* Sunni girls who wear hijab to be raped. How can I sit back and not speak out against things such as this?

Go read all the pro-Assad comments on the Internet by so-called Muslims, and they are almost always by Shias. I don't blame the average Shia though, I blame their leaders like Khameini who have brainwashed them into being pro-Assad. So who are the real sectarians here? People are dying on a genocidal scale.




yes you should speak out against injustice. no one said u shouldnt. My point is that its nothing to do with shia and sunni. Let me give you a perfect example and you can hopefully extrapolate onto current events.

Firstly alawi arent shia either - they are kafir.

now let us go back to iraq in the second gulf war. Iraq was a country where shia and sunni lived together, inter-married etc then when the people took up arms it was both shia groups and sunni groups - because the army didnt fight.

So how did the west break this? They bombed shia shrines to blame sunni's and vice versa. Mossad were caught and so were british soldiers caught doing this. And other times they used their agents.

Now this happens in pakistan and all over the world. in pakistan they have used sikhs of afghanistan - as they resemble us to do this. and others including nepalese and sri lankans and ofcourse our own.

Lets get back to syria - no one denies injustice has been done and has been for almost a year. But point no.1 iran isnt supporting the killings. It has supported the assad regime as it is an ally in region and if it loses that and assad is replaced by a pro western ruler then iran is isolated. thats why iran and its proxy hezbollah have supported them.

It has nothing to do with shia or sunni. The only thing i am against is to turn into a sectarian war. the nations are doing it for self preservation and self interests.

Lets take this further. Saudi tanks rolled into bahrain when there was a shia uprising. Why? was it a religious thing? Shia's have always lived there so why now? It was a political move as saudi has its own shia population and if the bahraini shia's were successful then it would have given its own shia minority to rise. They cant afford that because a lot of its oil is produced in those areas where shia's reside.

So hopefully you see that there is no religious reason whatsoever. There are religious cloaks which are worn to get the poor to spill their blood to keep rulers in power, to make money for oil barons etc.

bro please all you can do to spe out against injustice, some of us are just saying it doesnt deserve a religious cloak - expose it for what it is. Because there will come more people who will dress in religious garb, get the sons and daughters to spill their own blood whilst they take the booty.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:49 PM (#22) User is offline   someone50 

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View PostMagnet, on 15 March 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

Noah-, since you view Bashar al-Assad as a "LION", do you think anyone will expect anything impartial from you?

Hizbul-Shaytan and that cursed Khameini are aiding in the deaths of Syrian Muslims. You know it and I know it. The leaked emails from Bashar prove this.

The biggest Takfiris on this planet is the Persian Entity. Their mullahs openly do takfir on "Salafis" and "Wahhabis". However, what they really mean is any Sunni that doesn't agree with their political goals. Any religious Sunni is considered a "Wahhabi" according to the Persian Entity. All the independent Sufi sheikhs in Syria have spoken openly against the Assad regime and called for fighting with arms, yet the Persian Entity will consider these Sufis as "Wahhabis".

As far as Bahraini terrorists who attacks Imams and mosques, they are being aided by the Persian Entity as well.



OK. When I see little Shia-haters like you, my response is that God's great gift, the 'LION' of Syria is praised. Kill as many infidel Takfiris as you can. Because, that is all you know... You never let people live in peace from Afghanistan to Pakistan, from Iraq to Syria and from Libya to Bahrain. You kill Shias for last 14 centuries for not believing the same way as you do. Your great caliph, Yazeed massacred the Ahlul Bait (as). You and your ignorant Saudi masters and the Great Satan's followers, aka Zionist Mafia deserve nothing but the Safavi-style ambush. Even the dictator Gaddafi had the courage to fight like men and not like RATS to explode himself amongst women and children... Until he was killed in the hands of his captives in a very unIslamic manner.. Because, you never know the culture of Islam, your entire Khaweriji and Takfiri style religion stands for revenge and humiliation of all who disagree with you.

LOOK at your racist rants... just like your Saudis masters and ignorant Arabs: "Persian Entity" And do you know anything about Persians? What about Sunni Persians? What about your entire Hanafi feqh? Do you know where Imam Abu Hanaifa was from? Or Bukhari? Or 100s of other Persian personalities who constitute your Sunni sects in fiqh and Hadiths?

My posts are usually to sane people who understand a few words in Islam and politics, unless I directly quote and respond to you and your bro the "Slave" boy. I have no time to convince or join the same roads as little haters like you who already dream for death and destruction of Shia Muslims, and participate in encouraging the explosion of mosques and Ashura gatherings amongst worshipers, killing women and children. Just like cowards!

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:51 PM (#23) User is offline   Mudassar-Rana 

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just in case you think i made things up- below are a few articles. if you need more i shall get you more - but please read these with an open mind.
You will see what people are doing to make us fight with each other.



http://www.rense.com...eral82/dzse.htm (mossad)

http://www.rense.com...ral67/cmndo.htm (british army)

http://pakistankakhu...gal-arms-again/ (americans dressed as pathans in pakistan)

http://www.telegraph...n-Pakistan.html (raymond davies)

http://www.thenation...us-war-pakistan ( the secret war in pakistan)
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:58 PM (#24) User is offline   Mudassar-Rana 

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bro someone50 - if u behave the same as them then what difference is there between you 2?

Make ur point, trust it is the truth and move on. People will like it, others wont. No one can dictate who is receptive and who isnt. What you have said is basically the image that people paint of shia's. Let not the stereotype become the truth. I hate the view that paints the ahlul bayt as mazloom - no they werent - they are the most bravest and boldest creation of God. At any time they could have backed out, could have made deals, could have left their families home - there were a 1001 reasons for them to go home and live a life of luxury - but they didnt. To make them out to mazloom is to belittle their contribution - which is the greatest in human history.
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View PostMudassar-Rana, on 15 March 2012 - 09:41 PM, said:

yes you should speak out against injustice. no one said u shouldnt. My point is that its nothing to do with shia and sunni. Let me give you a perfect example and you can hopefully extrapolate onto current events.

Firstly alawi arent shia either - they are kafir.

now let us go back to iraq in the second gulf war. Iraq was a country where shia and sunni lived together, inter-married etc then when the people took up arms it was both shia groups and sunni groups - because the army didnt fight.

So how did the west break this? They bombed shia shrines to blame sunni's and vice versa. Mossad were caught and so were british soldiers caught doing this. And other times they used their agents.

Now this happens in pakistan and all over the world. in pakistan they have used sikhs of afghanistan - as they resemble us to do this. and others including nepalese and sri lankans and ofcourse our own.

Lets get back to syria - no one denies injustice has been done and has been for almost a year. But point no.1 iran isnt supporting the killings. It has supported the assad regime as it is an ally in region and if it loses that and assad is replaced by a pro western ruler then iran is isolated. thats why iran and its proxy hezbollah have supported them.

It has nothing to do with shia or sunni. The only thing i am against is to turn into a sectarian war. the nations are doing it for self preservation and self interests.

Lets take this further. Saudi tanks rolled into bahrain when there was a shia uprising. Why? was it a religious thing? Shia's have always lived there so why now? It was a political move as saudi has its own shia population and if the bahraini shia's were successful then it would have given its own shia minority to rise. They cant afford that because a lot of its oil is produced in those areas where shia's reside.

So hopefully you see that there is no religious reason whatsoever. There are religious cloaks which are worn to get the poor to spill their blood to keep rulers in power, to make money for oil barons etc.

bro please all you can do to spe out against injustice, some of us are just saying it doesnt deserve a religious cloak - expose it for what it is. Because there will come more people who will dress in religious garb, get the sons and daughters to spill their own blood whilst they take the booty.


Bro, well said and I agree again. I have no doubt that the West uses sectarianism to their material advantage. This is widely acknowledged and accepted by Muslims. However, I also believe the Iranian regime also uses sectarianism to their advantage, under the cloak of "Anti-Zionism" and "Anti-Imperialism" - something that is not widely known. I also definitely believe they only care about the lives of people that support their revolution. Iran has always been desparately reaching out to the U.S. to be friends in the past, but it has been the U.S. who has rejected them. Iran accepted arms from U.S. in the Iran-Contra affair. Just in today's news, we now know that the Iran has been purchasing $160 million worth of wheat from the U.S. while publicly calling them the "Great Satan". These are monifiqs at best. Who knows what other backdoor deals they are doing with the U.S. http://af.reuters.co...0120315?sp=true

I consider the Iranian regime as political & sectarian. This is why there are Shias who disagree with the Iranian Waliyet al-Fakih concept, while the mullahs in Iran are billionaires collecting khums from the masses and owning large business enterprises. Powerful Shia Sheikh Fadlallah of Lebanon denounced the Waliyat al-Fakih concept, so the Iranian regime tried hard to silence him. Therefore, I openly criticize and expose the regime. I'm not trying to portray this as religious, but I am faced with the facts that the support in the Syrian war is split along sectarian lines.

Yes, the Alawites, who are really called the "Nusayris" are kafirs. However, recall the powerful Lebanese Shia leader Musa al-Sadr of the Shia Amal movement recognized Alawites as Twelvers Shias (lies) to give Alawites legitimacy in ruling Syria. They use sectarianism to further their agenda, but then they always label us Sunnis as sectarian when we expose them. We must wake up and realize the intentions of the Persian Entity (the regime).

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View PostMagnet, on 15 March 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

Noah-, since you view Bashar al-Assad as a "LION", do All the independent Sufi sheikhs in Syria have spoken openly against the Assad regime and called for fighting with arms, yet the Persian Entity will consider these Sufis as "Wahhabis".


Has he recently converted to Alwiet? What religion was he following last year and the year before or in 2000 when he joined the office? What was his father's religion who ruled Syria for 30 years? Where were all these so-called independent Sufi Sheikhs?

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Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah Bin Abdul Aziz speaks with Syrian President Bashar Al Assad upon his arrival in Riyadh. January 15, 2010.

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View Postsomeone50, on 15 March 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

OK. When I see little Shia-haters like you, my response is that God's great gift, the 'LION' of Syria is praised. Kill as many infidel Takfiris as you can.

Look at you, calling the murderer Bashar al-Assad "God's great gift" and "the LION of Syria". Most of the 10,000 deaths have been civilians, so to you dead Sunni civilians are "infidel Takfiris". You see guys, this is what I mean when I say how pro-Assad the Shias are.

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LOOK at your racist rants... just like your Saudis masters and ignorant Arabs: "Persian Entity" And do you know anything about Persians? What about Sunni Persians? What about your entire Hanafi feqh? Do you know where Imam Abu Hanaifa was from? Or Bukhari? Or 100s of other Persian personalities who constitute your Sunni sects in fiqh and Hadiths?

Calm down, I'm not criticizing the Persian people, I am criticizing the Persian Entity - the regime. Just like Iran calls Israel the Zionist Entity, it does not mean all Jews, just the regime. Therefore, the greatest threats to the Middle East are the Zionist and Persian Entities.
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View PostDesert-Sheikh, on 15 March 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

Has he recently converted to Alwiet? What religion was he following last year and the year before or in 2000 when he joined the office? What was his father's religion who ruled Syria for 30 years? Where were all these so-called independent Sufi Sheikhs?

I don't understand your question. Do you know much about Syria? I'll just give you one example of a prominent Syrian Sufi Sheikh al-Yacoubi. Sacred Knowledge is his organization: http://www.sacredknowledge.co.uk/



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Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah Bin Abdul Aziz speaks with Syrian President Bashar Al Assad upon his arrival in Riyadh. January 15, 2010.
PS: Please stop this sectarian nonsense or go somewhere else.

What is your point?

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Assad is a thug and a bully for whom killing people indiscriminately is no problem. The sooner he goes, and no doubt he will the better. The Iranians are no better and given half a chance will kill innocent people no problem.
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Therefore, the greatest threats to the Middle East are the Zionist and Persian Entities (Magnet)

Really? how was Iran involved in the violence and murder in Tunisia? In Egypt? and in Libya? not forgetting Yemen or Bahrain.
The libyan rebels were armed by the west, Egyptians were left to it to kill themselves, Yemen is conveniently forgotten where thousands have been killed. You say a Genocide is taking place in Syria but not in Yemen? Is that because Ali AbdallahSaleh enjoys a healthy relationship with the Saudies?

why the discrepancy and what are the figures for your argument?

How is Iran a threat to the Middleastern peace when it is largely a self sufficient country? Which leader have they most wanted to oust and have removed?

You should say the greatest threat to the Middleast are the enslaved Arabs of the West, Salafies have done the most deals with Shaytaan e buzurg Amreeka.


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View PostMagnet, on 15 March 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:


I don't understand your question. Do you know much about Syria? I'll just give you one example of a prominent Syrian Sufi Sheikh al-Yacoubi. Sacred Knowledge is his organization:

What is your point?



I don't want to listen to him. Where were these Sufis during last 40 years?

My point is 'Saudi were always behind these 'tyrants, and Alwiet-issue never came up.

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View PostFatema-the-resplendent, on 15 March 2012 - 10:49 PM, said:

Really? how was Iran involved in the violence and murder in Tunisia? In Egypt? and in Libya? not forgetting Yemen or Bahrain.
The libyan rebels were armed by the west, Egyptians were left to it to kill themselves, Yemen is conveniently forgotten where thousands have been killed. You say a Genocide is taking place in Syria but not in Yemen? Is that because Ali AbdallahSaleh enjoys a healthy relationship with the Saudies?

why the discrepancy and what are the figures for your argument?

How is Iran a threat to the Middleastern peace when it is largely a self sufficient country? Which leader have they most wanted to oust and have removed?

You should say the greatest threat to the Middleast are the enslaved Arabs of the West, Salafies have done the most deals with Shaytaan e buzurg Amreeka.


Iran is not a country that minds its own business. It interferes in every regional nation's affairs. It is a parasite. I was once a staunch supporter of Iran until I saw their hypocrisy. 1 Million children can die in Syria and the Iranian regime will show no remorse. I cannot help you. You have shown no sympathy for the Syrian Muslims, yet you spend 100% of your energy defending the Persian Entity.
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View PostDesert-Sheikh, on 15 March 2012 - 11:29 PM, said:

I don't want to listen to him. Where were these Sufis during last 40 years?

My point is 'Saudi were always behind these 'tyrants, and Alwiet-issue never came up.



Why don't you want to listen to him? Seems like you only want to hear what pleases you?

The Syrian regime is secular Baathist, how do you think Sufis are treated? Any Sufi leader that spoke out against the regime was imprisoned, tortured or disappeared. Do you not know any Syrian exiles? They can tell you a lot about how and why they had to flee Syria.

Saudis are not behind the Syrian Baathists. This is the first time I have ever heard of this claim.

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Brother Magnet has made some interesting points but some of you are blinded by your anti-West/pro-Iran goggles
that if Assad kills another million people in Syria and given 'full support' by Iran you will say it is all terrorists he has killed.

Was everyone who died of the 8000+ a terrorist? were the little girls and kids shot through the head terrorists?

kuchh to sharam karo!

And when it goes against your beloved Iran even great Sunni scholars like Shaykh Sayyid Muhammad al Yaqoubi no longer matter to you! Subhan Allah.

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Two years ago the people in Syria did not rise up against the regime --this uprising is part of the Arab Spring so that's why Assad al-Shaytan had no need
to kill people two years ago and why others in the region didn't say anything then. Now his regime is threatened he is killing to stay in power.

OK, may all those who support Assad and Khameini/Ahmadinijad meet the same fate as him on the Day of Judgement and those of us who support Shaykh Yaqoubi will be on his side
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Magnet

Can you answer my questions, I am least bit interested in emotional rhetoric. Or stop your garbage, your choice.

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Ahmedinijad is a nutter
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View PostSlave_of_the_Two_Husayns, on 16 March 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

Brother Magnet has made some interesting points but some of you are blinded by your anti-West/pro-Iran goggles
that if Assad kills another million people in Syria and given 'full support' by Iran you will say it is all terrorists he has killed.

Was everyone who died of the 8000+ a terrorist? were the little girls and kids shot through the head terrorists?

kuchh to sharam karo!

And when it goes against your beloved Iran even great Sunni scholars like Shaykh Sayyid Muhammad al Yaqoubi no longer matter to you! Subhan Allah.

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Two years ago the people in Syria did not rise up against the regime --this uprising is part of the Arab Spring so that's why Assad al-Shaytan had no need
to kill people two years ago and why others in the region didn't say anything then. Now his regime is threatened he is killing to stay in power.

OK, may all those who support Assad and Khameini/Ahmadinijad meet the same fate as him on the Day of Judgement and those of us who support Shaykh Yaqoubi will be on his side
insh Allah. :)




My dear secular-liberal friend, please stop reading between the lines. NO ONE is supporting Asad or any other tyrant or president.

All i want a sect-free discussion. Asad was an Alwi even when he was crowned but why didn't they raise this issue? Why an Alwi was allowed to rule a SUNNI dominated country in the first place?

We've been crying all the time' that Sufi or Sunni Mashaikh's silence is a crime,a grave SIN. And even now, hate-maggots are bringing up the 'Alwi' issue, instead of his status being a 'Tyrent'. Why discussing his religion instead of his tyranny? JUST to save some of their Beloved Tyrent's neck but we cannot tolerate this hypocrisy.

And regarding Syrian people, I fully support them IF they don't take any external aid from 'Kuffar' or Wahabi bandits. It's HARAM to take any military assistance from Kuffar and Wahabi bandits will demolish entire Syria

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View PostMagnet, on 16 March 2012 - 04:28 AM, said:

Why don't you want to listen to him? Seems like you only want to hear what pleases you?


I definitely will not listen to him NOW, what he's been doing last 10 years? Where were Sufi o Scholars, were they all dead? Didn't they know tyranny is Haram? Didn't they know Hazrat Umar radi allahu anhu has ordered to KILL the tyrent and his suppoerts? You just focus on Asad being Alawi and killing 'Sunnis', Why don't you say a tyrant is brutally murdering his people? ?? And then you have to condemn each and every tyrent and his 'tyranny' but how can you speak aginst you beloved Aal-e-Saud? Or the bastards ruling over Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar?

View PostMagnet, on 16 March 2012 - 04:28 AM, said:

The Syrian regime is secular Baathist, how do you think Sufis are treated? Any Sufi leader that spoke out against the regime was imprisoned, tortured or disappeared. Do you not know any Syrian exiles? They can tell you a lot about how and why they had to flee Syria.


Oh, don't give me that. How Sufi's and Sunni are being treated in Saudi Arabia? Who slaughtered Sunni Ulma o Masikh laying down like sheeps in Haram-e-Madina? How many were imprisoned, tortured, or forced to flee?

How do they treat the most nobel Sunni Scholars from subcontinent? Inside Haram-e-Makkah, who harassed, arrested and imprisoned, Muhaddith-e-Azam Pakistan Maulana Sardar Ahmed Sahib, Mujahid-e-Millat Habib-ur-Rahman Qadri, Mufti-e-Azam-e-Hind Akhtar Raza Azhari sahib and many other?

You don't say a word about the bllody Aal-e-Saud? Who even abandoned the descendants of Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahu Alieh Wassaalm) from mentioning their blessed lineage on their ID-cards?

May Allah curse Al-e-Saud and its supporters.

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View PostDesert-Sheikh, on 16 March 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

I definitely will not listen to him NOW, what he's been doing last 10 years? Where were Sufi o Scholars, were they all dead? Didn't they know tyranny is Haram? Didn't they know Hazrat Umar radi allahu anhu has ordered to KILL the tyrent and his suppoerts? You just focus on Asad being Alawi and killing 'Sunnis', Why don't you say a tyrant is brutally murdering his people? ?? And then you have to condemn each and every tyrent and his 'tyranny' but how can you speak aginst you beloved Aal-e-Saud? Or the bastards ruling over Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar?

Show some respect to Sheikh al-Yacoubi. Have you done comparable work for Islam as he has? The Syrians live in a bloody dictatorship. Of course they know tyranny is haram. Anyone who speaks against tyranny there is killed, so they live in fear and have to accept the system. You seem to act very tough, but would you speak up against Bashar in Syria, knowing you, your family and relatives would be executed?

The tyrant it murdering his own people - but only Sunnis, not Alawites and Christians. Why don't you see the sectarian nature of the Bashar regime?



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Oh, don't give me that. How Sufi's and Sunni are being treated in Saudi Arabia? Who slaughtered Sunni Ulma o Masikh laying down like sheeps in Haram-e-Madina? How many were imprisoned, tortured, or forced to flee?

How do they treat the most nobel Sunni Scholars from subcontinent? Inside Haram-e-Makkah, who harassed, arrested and imprisoned, Muhaddith-e-Azam Pakistan Maulana Sardar Ahmed Sahib, Mujahid-e-Millat Habib-ur-Rahman Qadri, Mufti-e-Azam-e-Hind Akhtar Raza Azhari sahib and many other?

You don't say a word about the bllody Aal-e-Saud? Who even abandoned the descendants of Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahu Alieh Wassaalm) from mentioning their blessed lineage on their ID-cards?


If you want to go after people who persecuted Sufi scholars, go after the Shia Safawids. Iran was a Sunni majority country with a very strong Sufi presence 500 years ago. The Safawid Shias wiped out the Sufi scholars and forcefully converted the Sunnis. Why are there now 0% Iranian Sufis? The worst massacre of Sufis in history is at the hands of the Shia Safawids. Have you read any quotes of Shia scholars on what they consider Sufis? They consider Sufis kafirs in their books. You want to spend 150% of your energy on the Saudi family, but ignore the Safawid Entity (Iran).

Again, my focus is on my Muslim obligation to support our Muslim brothers and sisters in Syria. Iran is directly involved in providing material support in killing Syrian Muslims, so I have every right to attack them.

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View PostFatema-the-resplendent, on 15 March 2012 - 10:49 PM, said:

Really? how was Iran involved in the violence and murder in Tunisia? In Egypt? and in Libya? not forgetting Yemen or Bahrain.
The libyan rebels were armed by the west, Egyptians were left to it to kill themselves, Yemen is conveniently forgotten where thousands have been killed. You say a Genocide is taking place in Syria but not in Yemen? Is that because Ali AbdallahSaleh enjoys a healthy relationship with the Saudies?

Perhaps I should inform you that North Africa is not the Middle East. Yes, the Persian Entity arms Houthi terrorists in Yemen. Yes, the Persian Entity instigated things in Bahrain. Ever notice the Iranian press never reports the Syrian civil war, but reports about 40 people dead in Bahrain as a genocide?

Did I say a genocide is not taking place in Yemen? Stop putting words in my mouth.


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why the discrepancy and what are the figures for your argument?

What on earth are you referring to?

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How is Iran a threat to the Middleastern peace when it is largely a self sufficient country? Which leader have they most wanted to oust and have removed?

Who told you it is self-sufficient? Russia, North Korea and China are huge investors in their country. Which leaders? The Iranians sided with the Americans when they attacked Iraq to oust Saddam. The Iranian proxy - Hezbollat of Lebanon - assassinated Lebanese PM Rafik Harari to install a Hezbollat-dominated regime. The Iranians sided with the Baathist regime in Syria since Hafez al-Assad until now to prevent Sunni rule. The Iranians have been meddling in Iraqi affairs so that Shia Ayad Allawi did not come to power who was friends with Sunnis, so that sectarian Shia Nouri al-Maliki and Iranian puppet could stay in power. Also, being a parasite and threat does not mean they go oust a leader overnight.

View PostFatema-the-resplendent, on 16 March 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:

Can you answer my questions, I am least bit interested in emotional rhetoric. Or stop your garbage, your choice.

There I answered them. Actually, from your rhetoric, it seems you are not well-versed on Middle Eastern affairs at all.
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