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Tehran Voices All-out Support For Damascus

Posted 13 March 2012 - 06:35 PM (#1) User is offline   Magnet 

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The Iranian regime has shown its true colors. This is posted directly from the state's IRIB news service by an Iranian regime official yesterday. No denying anything here. We Sunnis need to realize that this whole propaganda that the Iranians use to criticize the West and Israel is to further its own interests in the region by gaining public sympathy. In reality, they are supporting the killing of Muslims in Syria and supporting Shia terrorists in Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen and elsewhere. The Syrian tragedy has been a blessing in that it has shown the Muslim Sunni world of what the Iranian mullah's real intentions are. To the Iranian mullahs, dead Syrian Muslim women and children are perfectly acceptable to their cause of dominance of the Assad regime.

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Tehran voices all-out support for Damascus

3/12/2012 11:12:58 AM

IRI Deputy Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian on Monday voiced Iran's all-out support for the Syrian government and nation.

Talking to IRNA, he said Tehran believes that those countries backing instability and insecurity in Syria are responsible for exacerbating the critical situation in that country.

The Iranian official urged certain countries, including several regional states, to refrain from arming the Syrian opposition groups.

He reiterated that the Iranian government considers diplomatic solution and supporting the legitimate demands of the Syrian nation as the best ways to resolve the issue, he added.

Source: http://english.iribn...y.aspx?ID=17752

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:09 PM (#2) User is offline   Desert-Sheikh 

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View PostMagnet, on 13 March 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

We Sunnis need to realize that this whole propaganda that the Iranians use to criticize the West and Israel is to further its own interests in the region by gaining public sympathy. In reality, they are supporting the killing of Muslims in Syria and supporting Shia terrorists in Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen and elsewhere. The Syrian tragedy has been a blessing in that it has shown the Muslim Sunni world of what the Iranian mullah's real intentions are.


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Posted 13 March 2012 - 11:22 PM (#3) User is offline   Mudassar-Rana 

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There is a real poverty of thought here.

If saudi supports killing of shia's by the kingdom of bahrain - what do you take from that? That its a sunni v shia thing? No its a strategic thing. Every country likes to have strategic depth and that is gained by having support in other nations.

If iran is supporting syria - it is not doing it because its a shia thing as alewi's are considered kafir even by mainstream shia's. It is because syria is the only ally they have in the middle east.

This we sunni thing just shows your not thinking deep enough about the affairs. Why has Pakistan a sunni state not made its position against assad known? Because they too know what is going on. Because this has been done already in pakistan. But by the grace of allah we havent been destroyed yet. In Pakistan for 15-20 years there was a wahabbi-shia axis. Where Saudi supported the wahabi movement and iran the shia movement. Again its nothing to do with religion. its politics Saudi didnt want iran to have influence in pakistan and iran didnt want saudi to have too much influence. In recent times 2 more axis are opening up. The Brelvi-Deobandi axis and the brelvi-brelvi axis. In essence its a free for all. Not a single group has a worthwhile scholar - they are all lions in their own home sort of thing.

We all deplore the murder of innocents whether they be muslim, alewi, shia or sunni - but we also need to remember who is fermenting this. I'd like to post loads of articles giving a both sides of the coin point of view - but it would be hijacking the forum and i dont wish to do that. If you wish to learn foreign affairs. Study the treaty of hudaybiah - purely from a political angle. It is the best example of statemanship,foresight and self belief. We are all quick to say nabi s.a.w is the best of creation - yet we are not prepared to study the moves he made which is why he s.a.w stands out as a leader of leaders.
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 11:57 PM (#4) User is offline   sunniskeptic 

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"We Sunnis" means all who are Ahlus Sunna w'al Jama'ah in its broadest sense. That is pretty clear
really i.e. all those who follow the Maturidi or Ashari schools in aqidah and either Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi' or Hanbali
schools in fiqh. It means all those Muslims who are not Shia even more broadly speaking.

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Well, I hope Syria and Iran enjoy this little bout of killing because soon insha Allah both Assad and the
ayatollahs in Tehran will fall. It is a matter of when not if.

He who laughs last, laughs loudest.

Yes, it is also a national interests issue but it is mixed with the traditional divide of Sunni-Shia.
Otherwise, why does Iran condemn the crackdown in Bahrain but applaud it in Syria?

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For me the real tragedy is the impotence of so-called Sunni nations like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Turkey
to take the matter in to their own hands...especially Pakistan and Turkey...

If they both attacked simultaneously they could have Syria and Iran in a classic pincer movement...

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View PostSlave_of_the_Two_Husayns, on 13 March 2012 - 11:57 PM, said:

"We Sunnis" means all who are Ahlus Sunna w'al Jama'ah in its broadest sense. That is pretty clear
really i.e. all those who follow the Maturidi or Ashari schools in aqidah and either Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi' or Hanbali
schools in fiqh. It means all those Muslims who are not Shia even more broadly speaking.

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Well, I hope Syria and Iran enjoy this little bout of killing because soon insha Allah both Assad and the
ayatollahs in Tehran will fall. It is a matter of when not if.

He who laughs last, laughs loudest.

Yes, it is also a national interests issue but it is mixed with the traditional divide of Sunni-Shia.
Otherwise, why does Iran condemn the crackdown in Bahrain but applaud it in Syria?

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For me the real tragedy is the impotence of so-called Sunni nations like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Turkey
to take the matter in to their own hands...especially Pakistan and Turkey...

If they both attacked simultaneously they could have Syria and Iran in a classic pincer movement...

Aah! Aah! ze zu'ff e Islam! Aah! Aah!


For someone claiming to be secular you are highly motivated by hate for people of other aqeedah than yourself. You Sunni's are just as miser in mercy to fellow beings as the Salafies. Infact all such hatred philosophies for fellow Muslims is so vile, I am saddened by the unlawful death of every Muslim, and when Muslim countries whatever their religious convictions are, driven into turmoil. Iran has not bowed to the West for whatever reason stands apart from ALL other Muslim nations despite how many twists you establish in your proverbial knickers.

Please liberate your thought, yes we all have opinions but I find you to have a view in stark contrast to most other people perhaps to jerk a reaction? or that you believe that you are so clued up about the whole political game and think yourself far cleverer than you may be.

My point is not to put you down or hurt your feelings but asking you to have a heart-there are other Muslims in the World who may not follow your brand of Islam but Allah has given them a life and you a sense to respect it.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:25 AM (#6) User is offline   Mudassar-Rana 

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truth be told bro i actually think there are about 4 people writing your posts - because there isnt an ideological link between any one post you write and another!

Hatred for shia's as led you to widen the bridge - now "we sunni's" includes the wahabi's - basically anybody who isnt shia! Wow how many of the "true kattr" sunni's are going to accept that point of view - just like the portuguese eurovision song contestant "nil point"!

It is only political - religiousity is simply a garb bro you know and i know it. There isnt an ounce of ideological committment to deen any where in this ummah's elite. Hasnt been for many a decade.

Saudi supports the bahrain crackdown because it has its own shia minority which resides in much of its oil producing territory -so it doesnt really want iranian influence of bahraini influence on them. A shia power in the region would be an influence to their own shia minority. Hence the nip in the bud sort of effort. Secondly in terms of opinion making the house of saud isnt exactly held in the greatest of esteem in the ummah and hence saudi feels threatened by the greater respect iran has - whether warranted or not is a different question altogether.

The irony is people often claim that we are secular because its non sectarian, non strife etc That is the argument muslims put forward. mullah's cause hatred between different beings etc. Yet when it comes to shia ur secularism flies out of the window! Despite previously having stated a great admiration for all things persian including muta etc u certainly dont extend that to shia's themselves! Infact when it comes to shia your beginning to sound like al muhajiroun on speed! Heaven help the shia who gets stuck in a lift with thee!!!

Bottom line, and i dont consider myself an ideological secularist - that whether someone is of any maslak or fiqh, or group as long as they are sincere, god fearing and respect others rights to have an opinion then all is well.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 04:58 AM (#7) User is offline   attarirafique 

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If you wish to learn foreign affairs. Study the treaty of hudaybiah - purely from a political angle. It is the best example of statemanship,foresight and self belief. We are all quick to say nabi s.a.w is the best of creation - yet we are not prepared to study the moves he made which is why he s.a.w stands out as a leader of leaders.
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So sister FTR because Iran in your words doesn't kowtow to the USA it makes it alright for us to turn a blind eye to all the mischief and terror they are causing by amongst other things
supporting the killing of innocent Muslims in Syria by their allies...or the Shia terror gangs in Iraq...etc,
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So as long as I shout 'marg bar Amrika' from the minbar on Fridays I can support genocide and acts against humanity against other Muslims?
You've cheapened your argument! How come your love and affection for all Muslims doesn't seem to extend to those whom Assad's forces are
slaughtering daily by shelling whole blocks of cities and committing all sorts of atrocities...?

If I give someone a gun and tell them to shoot you I am as guilty as the person who actually pulls the trigger...


Think about it ch'all....
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:12 AM (#9) User is offline   sunniskeptic 

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Brother Mudassar,

I've got nothing against Shias per se...if they stop supporting the killing of Muslims in Syria tomorrow....it is the support of terror i am against not their religion...to be clear i know it is not all Shias who
are supporting and only the regime of Iran...so a regime change would suffice me....


A lot of individuals i admire are Shia...Jinnah, Ghalib, Meer Taqi Meer, Ali Shariati, Mullah Sadra, Mirza Hadi Ruswa etc...

I condemn atrocities against innocent civilians everywhere whether in Syria, Kashmir, Sri Lanka, or Palestine or inside Israel, Rwanda, Somalia...etc.

Of course, as a British Pakistani Sunni myself when it comes to geopolitics I will obviously prefer what is in my country's national interest...but that is nothing to do with
secularism which just means keeping Church and State officially separate...

The world isn't black and white brother. People are complex individuals...

Anyway it is clear we have differences of opinion on this so lets just agree to disagree shall we?
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Brother Slave atleast the Shia run states have the decency to stand up to the west and I for one salute them.Tell me what are the Sunnis doing apart from taking funds from the Americans?????
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:33 PM (#11) User is offline   Mudassar-Rana 

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[quote name='Slave_of_the_Two_Husayns' timestamp='1331705544' post='444386']
Brother Mudassar,

I've got nothing against Shias per se...if they stop supporting the killing of Muslims in Syria tomorrow....it is the support of terror i am against not their religion...to be clear i know it is not all Shias who
are supporting and only the regime of Iran...so a regime change would suffice me....


bro SS - your above line sums up what you have been writing recently.

"i've nothing against shia's per se - if they stop supoprting the killing of muslims in syria tomorrow.

then you say " I know it is not all shia's ....and only the regime of iran..". All of this in one sentence!











Of course, as a British Pakistani Sunni myself when it comes to geopolitics I will obviously prefer what is in my country's national interest...but that is nothing to do with
secularism which just means keeping Church and State officially separate...

Bro if you prefer your country's national interest - making an enemy of a neighbour isnt really sensible? Go back to liaquat Ali Khan he refused the Americans intelligence on iran and in the end paid the price with his life. So no its not in pakistan's national interest to support any sort of instability in iran - just as it wasnt in afghanistan.



Anyway it is clear we have differences of opinion on this so lets just agree to disagree shall we?


Bro its a discussion - we will always disagree because of the outlook we have and I have no problems with it.

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View PostMagnet, on 13 March 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

The Iranian regime has shown its true colors. This is posted directly from the state's IRIB news service by an Iranian regime official yesterday. No denying anything here. We Sunnis need to realize that this whole propaganda that the Iranians use to criticize the West and Israel is to further its own interests in the region by gaining public sympathy. In reality, they are supporting the killing of Muslims in Syria and supporting Shia terrorists in Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen and elsewhere. The Syrian tragedy has been a blessing in that it has shown the Muslim Sunni world of what the Iranian mullah's real intentions are. To the Iranian mullahs, dead Syrian Muslim women and children are perfectly acceptable to their cause of dominance of the Assad regime.



Tehran voices all-out support for Damascus

3/12/2012 11:12:58 AM

IRI Deputy Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian on Monday voiced Iran's all-out support for the Syrian government and nation.

Talking to IRNA, he said Tehran believes that those countries backing instability and insecurity in Syria are responsible for exacerbating the critical situation in that country.

The Iranian official urged certain countries, including several regional states, to refrain from arming the Syrian opposition groups.

He reiterated that the Iranian government considers diplomatic solution and supporting the legitimate demands of the Syrian nation as the best ways to resolve the issue, he added.

Source: http://english.iribn...y.aspx?ID=17752



Ofcourse Iran will support Syria. Iranian Intelligence is telling Iranian Policy makers the protestors are backed by the CIA and AL Qaeda is openly supporting and even bombing in Syria. Russia is not a shia country, but it too is getting the same intelligence.

Where were you Sunnis ? when Saddam Hussien was killing sunnis ? or when Mubarak was locking up 100s of Egyptian girls and subjecting them to rape ? dont play all innocent. The one time sunnis are getting killed by an Anti American Ruler , you want to invade.

Iran still criticises the west and Israel. Its the Gulf which pretend to be anti isreal then join the mission to on western regime change. the Qataris are biggest traitors in the world. If Iran wants public sympathy so what ? does iran get personal gain when others appreciate irans role ? even non muslim like Hugo chavez appreciate iran role in fighting the imperalist. you think Israel and Muslim worlds interests can EVER be the same ? what is happening in syria is well know cia tactic of colour revolution its been applied in eastern europe and latin america many times. So called Shia Terrorist in Iraq, have only been fighting American Forces and agreed to case fire 2 years ago. Compared to Saudi Funded terrorist who still kill civilians. their are no Terrorist in Lebanon . As for Yemen, when sunni arabs rise up against the yemeni president , the are democracy activists , when shias do it they are terrorist ? why the hypocrisy


Blood shed in Syria would be far less if Qatar and west did not arm Terrorist in Syria just like they did in Libya.

To Iranian Mullahs, they know Assads fall will result in a even more bloody civil war. They are not supporting killing , but rejecting helping this unknown free Syrian ARmy. This means nothing for the muslim world, its just geo poltics. If it anything it shows that arabs who helped the British and French destroy the Ottaman Empire, are once again helping imperialist control the middle east . 60 years and no progress on palestine but billions available to get rid of Assad. Assad was no puppet of Iran he had his own foreign policy, just because he was no pro Saudi Arabia. I salute men like gaddafi and Assad who are independent.
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View PostSlave_of_the_Two_Husayns, on 14 March 2012 - 06:12 AM, said:

Brother Mudassar,

I've got nothing against Shias per se...if they stop supporting the killing of Muslims in Syria tomorrow....it is the support of terror i am against not their religion...to be clear i know it is not all Shias who
are supporting and only the regime of Iran...so a regime change would suffice me....


A lot of individuals i admire are Shia...Jinnah, Ghalib, Meer Taqi Meer, Ali Shariati, Mullah Sadra, Mirza Hadi Ruswa etc...

I condemn atrocities against innocent civilians everywhere whether in Syria, Kashmir, Sri Lanka, or Palestine or inside Israel, Rwanda, Somalia...etc.

Of course, as a British Pakistani Sunni myself when it comes to geopolitics I will obviously prefer what is in my country's national interest...but that is nothing to do with
secularism which just means keeping Church and State officially separate...

The world isn't black and white brother. People are complex individuals...

Anyway it is clear we have differences of opinion on this so lets just agree to disagree shall we?


you make it seem like ALL SUNNIS are being killed.Syria's army is not killing all sunnis in the country, its alleged to be killing anyone who is challenging the regime ie POLITICAL OPPOSITION. if Assad hated sunnis so much he had a long time to kill them , he would not have married a sunni. Shias dont support the killing of muslim in Syria, they support the killing of Al Qaeda and Armed gangs in Syria. Shias dont take pleasure because a sunni has died, no one is that sick. You cant prove the protestors are not Al Qaeda, and they cant prove the protestors are Al Qaeda. so no to make false links and mis representing shia motives. Any proof of this Shia killing gangs ? beyond hate literature ? do sunnis not also have killing gangs ? do gangs not emerge in countries with poor law and order like Iraq ?

you missed out Civilians in Saudi Arabia,Bahrain. Iraq under Saddam Hussien. Kurds in Turkey.

As a British Citizen, your interests are its not worth millions of pounds of your tax money for your near bankrupt state being spent on regime change and funding more blood shed. If Extremists take over that country, that will threaten British Interests around the world.

As a Pakistani Citizen, a interests lie in a moderate middle east, ideally a divided middle east which Pakistan can Dominate. Saudi Arabia is hardly an ally of Pakistan, it wont provide any support in the event of a war with America or sign a trade agreement . Uses your population for slave labour and abuses them . House of Saud is more interested in clinging to power than building up an Islamic arms industry. A Strong Iran, will keep the United States distracted. If Iran did not exist, all the republican candidates would be bad mouthing Pakistan. Gulf States are more interested in building the worlds largest hotel, whilst the Isrealis are preparing for WW3. If I was Pakistan I would not go as far as supporting Assad, but maintain a China style silence, oppose UN resolution and encourage peaceful dialogue.

as a Muslim your interests, are to oppose the enemies of Islamic World at every opportunity ( Oppose revolution in Libya,Syria,Russia, Support in Egypt,) Just google Lavon Affair. No country would allow 1000s of armed men to go through cities. Your only source of information is the controlled media,its a classic trap. Assad clamps down on terrorist, media spreads misinformation that its civilians. Civilians die, because the terrorist fight in built up areas.
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The same language of propaganda as your Western bosses! Iran was helping terrorism in Lebanon and Palestine as claimed by your bosses' media before as well.

There is a huge difference between supporting the killings and supporting the Syrian government current status against a new government who might surface with the help of Saudis-Zionists to takeover Syria and turn the tide against the people of the region. And join the same front who are busy in killings, invading, Takfirism, changing regimes, and safeguarding Israeli interests in any cost. This has nothing to do with Sunnis establishing their little Khelafa in Syria or whatever. If Iran were against Sunnis gaining power, it will never supported the Islamists gain in Tunisia and Egypt and even in Yemen against the Shia Abdullah Saleh, where Iran thinks it is safe if the Zionist puppets exit and the Sunni Islamists take power!

What is the difference between Iran and hizb's stance on Syria from Turkey and Muslim Brotherhood's stance on Bahrain? Turkey supported the government of Bahrain and called on "all parties to join a dialogue" and solve their internal problems; the same did Muslim Brotherhood. We never called them the killer of Shias of Bahrain.


AND WHO IS KILLING SUNNIS? As stupid as it is, none of you know exactly the composition of Syrian government, HOW COME ASSAD AND MUHALIM, two known Alawites will become the killers of Sunnis? Look at the important positions occupied by Sunnis, the intelligence, the police and the army. If all Sunnis in the government changed sides, the few Alawites and few Christians would have never stand a few days. The reality is not what you little sectarian beasts and your Takfiri clerics in Saudi Arabia preach. There is HUGE % of Sunnis within the government organizations in Syria who hold guns. The majority of rebels might be Sunni (branch of Salafists), but the majority who are fighting them in no way are Alawites or Christians or Sunnis... It is all. The government in Syria is not like the government of Bahrain, who by law prohibits Shias from gaining access to police, intelligence, army, any high position in any ministry and etc... Check wikipedia at least...

And what do you expect when armed groups funded by foreigners join the protesters and make it a militarily conflict? What were you do if you were the Syrian government?

The "Slave" mentioned the small number of people killed by Saudi-Bahraini forces! Well, if Bahrainis invited A FEW ARMED movements and took guns from outsiders like Syrian rebels, I doubt the number of killed/wounded stayed 80/700. In Bahrain this happened while THERE WAS NO SINGLE gun involved; this is a crime that a government can never explain where the opposition is unarmed.

To call a country supporting of killings: You need to see what they are doing on the ground. Not like Turkey or Iran who might issue official statements. LIKE SAUDIS and QATARIS who sent ARMY VEHICLES, money and their soldiers invaded another country in order to side with the government and participate in killings and oppression. Just imagine if Iranians warplanes and tanks invaded Syria to attack peaceful protesters, even though there is no such thing as peaceful protesters in Syria.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:30 PM (#15) User is offline   Magnet 

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Noah-, since you view Bashar al-Assad as a "LION", do you think anyone will expect anything impartial from you?

Hizbul-Shaytan and that cursed Khameini are aiding in the deaths of Syrian Muslims. You know it and I know it. The leaked emails from Bashar prove this.

The biggest Takfiris on this planet is the Persian Entity. Their mullahs openly do takfir on "Salafis" and "Wahhabis". However, what they really mean is any Sunni that doesn't agree with their political goals. Any religious Sunni is considered a "Wahhabi" according to the Persian Entity. All the independent Sufi sheikhs in Syria have spoken openly against the Assad regime and called for fighting with arms, yet the Persian Entity will consider these Sufis as "Wahhabis".

As far as Bahraini terrorists who attacks Imams and mosques, they are being aided by the Persian Entity as well.

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View PostMagnet, on 15 March 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

Noah-, since you view Bashar al-Assad as a "LION", do you think anyone will expect anything impartial from you?

Hizbul-Shaytan and that cursed Khameini are aiding in the deaths of Syrian Muslims. You know it and I know it. The leaked emails from Bashar prove this.

The biggest Takfiris on this planet is the Persian Entity. Their mullahs openly do takfir on "Salafis" and "Wahhabis". However, what they really mean is any Sunni that doesn't agree with their political goals. Any religious Sunni is considered a "Wahhabi" according to the Persian Entity. All the independent Sufi sheikhs in Syria have spoken openly against the Assad regime and called for fighting with arms, yet the Persian Entity will consider these Sufis as "Wahhabis".

As far as Bahraini terrorists who attacks Imams and mosques, they are being aided by the Persian Entity as well.



Please refer to ''Freedom from Sectarianism'' thread, you would seriously benefit from it.

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View PostFatema-the-resplendent, on 15 March 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Please refer to ''Freedom from Sectarianism'' thread, you would seriously benefit from it.


Why do you turn a blind eye to the sectarianism of the Iranian regime? Have you noticed since the 1979 Iranian revolution, Sunni-Shia sectarianism has sky-rocketed?
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View PostMagnet, on 15 March 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

Why do you turn a blind eye to the sectarianism of the Iranian regime? Have you noticed since the 1979 Iranian revolution, Sunni-Shia sectarianism has sky-rocketed?


yep it takes 2 to tango. both sides engage in it. saudi too fund groups like sipah e sahabah. no one's any better at it. you cant blame just one side. its not religious, mind u its never been religious. it just got more political.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:15 PM (#19) User is offline   Fatema-the-resplendent 

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View PostMagnet, on 15 March 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

Why do you turn a blind eye to the sectarianism of the Iranian regime? Have you noticed since the 1979 Iranian revolution, Sunni-Shia sectarianism has sky-rocketed?


Yes I've noticed, especially where the USA have been it has certainly been exacerbated. In Iraq the Sunni and Shia were in relative peace before the USA invaded their land, and when America got involved Iraq fought Iran-you see the plan of the west to cause sectarian troubles in countries is nothing new. The Iranian regime has mocked and rebuked the American plan hence it is on loggerheads with Israel and USA.

You must be a real bright person to suggest the Sunni Shia divide is because of the revolution. Sectarianism is a plan of the west which has worked in many countries they have invaded including Pakistan. Fortunately in Pakistan their plan has failed.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:15 PM (#20) User is offline   Magnet 

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View PostMudassar-Rana, on 15 March 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

yep it takes 2 to tango. both sides engage in it. saudi too fund groups like sipah e sahabah. no one's any better at it. you cant blame just one side. its not religious, mind u its never been religious. it just got more political.


I agree with your statement. It may not be religious, but it is sectarian based on political goals. I'm defending the Muslims who are being massacred in Syria right now. It's a religious obligation to defend our brothers and sisters. I'm not trying to be sectarian, but let's face the fact - the Syrian war is sectarian. Go talk to the average Shia on the street and they will be either pro-Assad or indifferent, just like Iran and Hezbul-Shaytaan (who are pro-Assad). Of course, there are Shias are who are independent thinkers and support Assad's downfall, but they are a minority. Who are the ones being killed on a massive scale in Syria? The Sunnis. When the Assad regime bombed Homs, they only bombed the Sunni neighborhoods and left all the Alawite neighborhoods. When the Alawite Shabiha and the security apparatus kidnap girls by offering them taxi rides and then taking them to security buildings where they are raped, they are always Sunni girls. You know what is sickening even more? I have seen numerous videos of this, the regime Alawite kidnappers target *specifically* Sunni girls who wear hijab to be raped. How can I sit back and not speak out against things such as this?

Go read all the pro-Assad comments on the Internet by so-called Muslims, and they are almost always by Shias. I don't blame the average Shia though, I blame their leaders like Khameini who have brainwashed them into being pro-Assad. So who are the real sectarians here? People are dying on a genocidal scale.

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