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Saudi Scholar's Fatwa To Kill Syrian President

Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:30 PM (#41) User is offline   Fekay 

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View PostAljannah, on 01 March 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

Great now I have the whole team against me. Anyone else want to take a shot? It's get Aljannah day today.

I havnt seen much respect from two members, so I spoke to them the way I've been spoken to. If he or anyone else can speak like that then why can't I? Bias much?

Khair I won't bother you again on this thread. But try and read what others are saying as well yeh. We all have a right of opinion here. Just because I'm new don't mean I don't hurt, have feelings etc vagerah etc.

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NO one is against you niether were you personally disrespected. Only thing addressed was the argument which somehow you took personally and went in overdrive mode. if you're so emotionally insecure then on what grounds did you attempt to make a comment in the first place?

On what grounds did you decide, 'whose dads owns what'? Calling someone son make you WHAT? Cyber DON? We all the ability to play these games , but most find it rather distasteful, so give the superficial ego a rest! If you don't want people to reply to you then make a personal note; should suffice for users to stay away from your sensitivities!
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:43 PM (#42) User is offline   The-Mughal-Sister 

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View PostAljannah, on 01 March 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

Great now I have the whole team against me. Anyone else want to take a shot? It's get Aljannah day today.

I havnt seen much respect from two members, so I spoke to them the way I've been spoken to. If he or anyone else can speak like that then why can't I? Bias much?

Khair I won't bother you again on this thread. But try and read what others are saying as well yeh. We all have a right of opinion here. Just because I'm new don't mean I don't hurt, have feelings etc vagerah etc.

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Sister no one is against you, at times some discussions get heated and people get emotional and start making personal comments. We just like to highlight that we should try to discuss the point rather than getting personal, this goes for everyone.

Everyone is welcome to post, discuss and share views that's how we all learn.

Brother fekay you made your point let's move on to the discussion.

JazakAllah Kheir brothers and sisters.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:50 PM (#43) User is offline   Know-the-Ledge 

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What the hell ju lot... al-Jannah calm down and cool jur wings. alJannah it's because jur new that ju'll be allowed to find jur way and settle into the general vibe of things, don't take things so personally and as an apni ju should know that the cardinal sin is mentioning someones dad in a pejorative sense, don't act like ju don't know...

Anyway moving on lal
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:22 PM (#44) User is offline   Mudassar-Rana 

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View PostKhalid_the_Warrior, on 01 March 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Bro MR, I think brother is missing the point. Its not about if Shikh Yaqoubi has given the fatwa or not. Indeed Shikh Yaqoubi has given the fatwa and he has every right to because after all it is his country. And because of this his life is in danger. So I laud his courage to speak against a tyrant unlike the mufti of al-saud.You see the difference!!!!

I hope if they could do the same. It’s easy to brandish fatwas on others on the pay check of al-saud. But it’s very difficult if they could do the same if their life was in danger.......
What brother is missing is that the same al-saud mufti's are happy to give fatwa on other muslim leaders when their own house is not in order.

It’s very easy, isn't it? You can't compare Shiekh Mohammad and these al-saud muftis.



to be fair bro ktw - it wasnt a sunni wahabbi issue for me. it was the raison d'etre behind the saudi fatwa. If the kuwaiti ulema had done or even the iranian it would be the same. Because no doubt iranian ulema have issued fatwa with government blessings in the past.

What made things worse is that even for a blind person it is easy to see what is going on. Its not as if iraq hasnt happened or libya hasnt happend.

That was the only real point i made to highlight the corruption of the reasons behind the fatwa. just because salah is fardh doesnt mean we do it without wudhu - i.e there is a process, a template to be followed, and to assist knowingly in the murder of humans and fellow muslims is unforgivable - whether it is the sword of assad, king abdullah or obama.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 01:08 AM (#45) User is offline   Fekay 

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Legitimacy of syrian opposition, OR is it? Infiltration of al-saud/NATO supported terrorists. I think this may hint to the query raised by bro MR about who will replace assad.

Syrian opposition leaders want to "be friends" with Israel. – ABC News
Also published on Israeli Ynetnews.

http://abcnews.go.co...israel-15818866

An Israeli lawmaker, Isaac Herzog, said Wednesday that the Syrian opposition want to "be friends" with Israel.
Herzog serves on the parliament's influential Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee

Syrian Rebels Ask Israel for Help
http://www.rapturefo...raelforhelp.cfm

Soon you'll have the same rebels destroying graves,prading the dead, terrorising civilians ect... and the-sheikhs will go back into hiding again(truly hope not).
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 08:28 AM (#46) User is offline   Aljannah 

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There's hope yet!

Pardon any of my rudeness also dear brothers and sisters. I apologise sincerely. Inshaallah ta'ala we will hold better discussions in future.

I'm not emotionally unstable may I add. A little witty and that's all :D I'll try and save that for my trolling thread, as and when I feel it is required to shout something out! Trololololol
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 10:34 AM (#47) User is offline   Quran-Reciter 

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View PostAljannah, on 02 March 2012 - 08:28 AM, said:

There's hope yet!

Pardon any of my rudeness also dear brothers and sisters. I apologise sincerely. Inshaallah ta'ala we will hold better discussions in future.

I'm not emotionally unstable may I add. A little witty and that's all :D I'll try and save that for my trolling thread, as and when I feel it is required to shout something out! Trololololol


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Posted 02 March 2012 - 11:11 AM (#48) User is offline   Aljannah 

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View PostQuran-Reciter, on 02 March 2012 - 10:34 AM, said:

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Haha where?
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 12:45 PM (#49) User is offline   The-Mughal-Sister 

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View PostAljannah, on 02 March 2012 - 08:28 AM, said:

There's hope yet!

Pardon any of my rudeness also dear brothers and sisters. I apologise sincerely. Inshaallah ta'ala we will hold better discussions in future.

I'm not emotionally unstable may I add. A little witty and that's all :D I'll try and save that for my trolling thread, as and when I feel it is required to shout something out! Trololololol


I can tell your a witty so and so lol...and there's so much more I wanna read from you I can feel it in my bones but for the right threads sis, maybe you can lead and initiate one :)

Back to the topic.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 02:27 PM (#50) User is offline   Aljannah 

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View PostThe-Mughal-Sister, on 02 March 2012 - 12:45 PM, said:

I can tell your a witty so and so lol...and there's so much more I wanna read from you I can feel it in my bones but for the right threads sis, maybe you can lead and initiate one :)

Back to the topic.



Jazak'Allah Khair Ya Ukthi. Thanks for your kind words. Oh I would love to.start a thread, but there's already so many good threads here, its hard to think what I want to talk about. As most topics are already covered. Inshaallah ta'ala as soon as one pops to mind I'll stick one up.

May Allah swt bless you with plenty of good in both worlds SIS ameen ya Rabbi

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 01:04 PM (#51) User is offline   sunniskeptic 

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brother QadriMuslim -- the reasons Muslim countries cannot overthrow vile regimes like those of Asad al Kalb if they want to is they don't have the military capabilities to do so hence
they are satrapies of the USA.

There is a reason I go on and on about Muslims developing their own independent science and technology. With greater technology come greater military superiority. If the Saudis were able to they would have
overthrown Asad by themselves; and if the Arab armies didn't collectively suck so badly they wouldn't have taken a hiding from the Israelis on three occasions. If Asad was so brave why did he go as quiet as a mouse
when only two years ago the Israelis entered his country and blew up what they thought was a nuclear site?

Individual bravery doesn't count for anything against superior weaponry and technology. A million of the bravest mujahids on one side armed with AK47s are no match for a single B52 bomber carrying a single nuclear
warhead.

When will people get it?
We have our priorities all wrong.

None of the countries LIKE taking dictation from the USA etc. but have no choice.
He who pays the piper, calls the tunes. In Urdu, jiski laaThii, uskii bhains.

So, I don't care WHO overthrows the Asad regime--if Muslims aren't able to do it--then by all means let those who can do it, do it. (And don't cry foul about their motives. As the mother of the last king of
Granada said on seeing him weep as he was leaving Granada: Why do you weep like a woman, when you couldn't defend it like a man?)

That is the situation of us Muslims today. Always blaming outsiders and conspiracies against us for our own weakness.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 11:20 AM (#52) User is offline   Husayni 

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View Postnhawan, on 29 February 2012 - 11:19 PM, said:

It appears that the hatred some people have for the saudis has clouded their minds. Bashar al Assad is killing his own people to stay in power, yet people here are defending him against a saudi scholars fatwa. Did anyone of you know that even Shiekh Syed Muhammad al Ya’qoubi of Syria has issued a fatwa against the Syrian regime. Would you dare call him a hypocrite too?

The Syrian leader is an Alawi Shia, a sect that is not even classed as muslim by many sunni scholars. The country would be much better without him.

I know which side I'm on in this case but it would be interesting to see what the lovers of Al Assad have to say in his defence.


Does his fatwa order the killing of the Syrian president ?
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 11:24 AM (#53) User is offline   Husayni 

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If there are fatwas issued our for one country then shouldnt they be issued for all countries facing the same problem?
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