[Mudassar-Rana]

What probably all of us feel at some point doing but never did. May Allah reward this sister, and grant ghairat to those who stand on the pulpit.

http://www.youtube.c...d&v=K42Nykxaqu0

[The-Mughal-Sister]

I'm sorry but as strong her message is, there is an appropriate time and place to convey a message.
Interrupting the imam by shouting across a hall full of men, furthermore yelling 'Do not touch me' as she distracts the congregation is not the correct method to get an effective message across.

Instead of embarrassing herself and the Brothers in the room, she should have spoken to the imam privately before or after the prayers.

There seems to be a growing and worrying trend of kids, well that's what they are, immature kids, who grab their phone and make a scene and upload the videos thinking they are doing a good job for Islam, when in actual fact they are doing a disservice.

Learn some manners some sincerity then talk to others.

You cannot force your views onto other people, you may feel passionate and others may not doesn't make them bad. People need to be educated and the issue of Palestine or whatever highlighted.

She is not a lioness, she is a silly girl who has no respect for herself or her elders.

This post has been edited by The-Mughal-Sister: 23 February 2012 - 01:50 AM

[The-Mughal-Sister]

It's me again...lol

I've just seen her many videos! Another You tube fame-seeker-wannabe! She has a video entitlied:

'I can give a better jummah khutba from my bedroom'

Is she serious? To give a jummah Khutba takes years of teaching and mastering, these kids jump on the Internet learn a few things and bob's your uncle and Azra's your aunt they know it all! Another case of Facebook Sheikhs! She seems to enjoy putting scholars down and gaining a fan base for it. Also watch her other 'comical' video:

'Shut the Fiqh Up'

She's better off switching off her laptop and curling up to her teddy bear.

[Aljannah]

What people would do for fame eh?

Hijaabis on YouTube are jokes. They make such idiots out of themselves its....yes... embarrassing. One sister I've seen on YT got so much negative coverage because of an error she spoke. The made countless videos of her, a shameful one too. Subhan'Allah.

It's better if these sisters want to become 'famous' is to win the hearts of her loved ones first. The One who goes without Saying is Allah swt then your family/neighbours etc. Try n be the best first. And if you do make a video. Share with friends only. Mark it private. And still remember to be modest in it. Inshaallah ta'ala.

May Allah swt bring better relations out of this Ummah, and educate us on the correct ways of living. Ameen Ya Rabbi.

[Anwarulhaq]

Sounds like a lady terrorist in the making..lol.

[Fekay]

Allah Akbar, that's what I call courage!!!The room full of people and a sister had to stand up and remind them of their state!!

[The-Mughal-Sister]

Aljannah, on 23 February 2012 - 02:26 AM, said:

What people would do for fame eh?

Hijaabis on YouTube are jokes. They make such idiots out of themselves its....yes... embarrassing. One sister I've seen on YT got so much negative coverage because of an error she spoke. The made countless videos of her, a shameful one too. Subhan'Allah.

It's better if these sisters want to become 'famous' is to win the hearts of her loved ones first. The One who goes without Saying is Allah swt then your family/neighbours etc. Try n be the best first. And if you do make a video. Share with friends only. Mark it private. And still remember to be modest in it. Inshaallah ta'ala.

May Allah swt bring better relations out of this Ummah, and educate us on the correct ways of living. Ameen Ya Rabbi.

The worrying trend is the youth are learning knowledge just for argumentation, rather than to better themselves to learn about the history of Islam.

Individuals who pick out others flaws only portray their own short comings. It's done in bad taste.

Fekay, calm down you try hard. lol. Who is she to show them of their state? What gives he the right or any Tom, Derek or Harminder?

It's better she holds her own event rather than hijacking Friday Prayers.

[Desert-Sheikh]

Mudassar-Rana, on 23 February 2012 - 01:25 AM, said:

What probably all of us feel at some point doing but never did. May Allah reward this sister, and grant ghairat to those who stand on the pulpit.

http://www.youtube.c...d&v=K42Nykxaqu0

Well Done - whoever you are !

This Mullah, Pir and corrupt politician alliance has ruined this Ummah. I nevery Islamic country, you'll see corrupt Govt backed by Mullahs and Pirs. Instead of talking about the real issue, Mullah and Pir keep this Ummah in Nimaz, Roza, Hajj and Milad celebrations.

One of Hazrat Allama Iqbal's verse really sums all of this up;

Baqi Na Rahi Teri Wo Aaiyna Zamirii
Aey Kushta O Sultan O Mullah O Piri

[Fekay]

The-Mughal-Sister, on 23 February 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

Fekay, calm down you try hard. lol. Who is she to show them of their state? What gives he the right or any Tom, Derek or Harminder?

It's better she holds her own event rather than hijacking Friday Prayers.

Sorry but I won't calm down; i just won't!! This sister has done something we(muslims) should-of done long time ago!!!!!!! A word of justice against ignorant worthless incompetent(+PLus all words KTL can think of) sheep scholars!

The amazing thing is she doesn't care how she might be preceoved but just there speaking the word of justice through puplour mediums.

Nigaah-e-Faqr Mein Shaan-e-Sikandari kya hay?
Khiraaj Ki Jo Gadaa Ho, Woh Qaisary Kya Hai?

A person who speaks the wordof justice; what does he care how people will preceive?
A scholar who fails to address the state of ummah? What kind is HE?

[Know-the-Ledge]

LMTA!! Are ju lot serious? Dancing around this kurris fire like Amazonian tribes people? It is haraam to speak during the khutbah of jummah; it is an egregious haraam, this kurri wants us to shut the fiqh up, so won't have mithered about this, but I can't believe you are endorsing and supporting someone who has a mantra of 'shut the fiqh up', I feel yanabi.com has allowed the sanctity of 'sacred law' to erode in its extremely negative purviews and secularist adoptations.

I won't name names, but ju all know who ju are; the problem never has been hijab, beard, miswaak, but the problem has always been argumentation and speaking without a proper holistic approach to issues; sacred law floats on a number of prologues, kindness and compassion and speaking with wisdom and with sympathy to the social, cultural and political millieus; the problem is not fiqh and sacred law, the problem is lack of shrewdness in deluded people who think they are scholars. Too many rent-a-scholars these days, like this kurri on jutube; who are ju to quote ibn taymiyyah so myopically? Do ju know what else Ibn taymiyyah said? Or do ju know just that one quote? Ibn Taymiyyah was a master of fiqh and his books are some of the most recognised manuscripts in jurisrprudence, so why don't ju tell him to shut the fiqh up?

Many of ju are simply hiding behind a total and complete red-herring, this overly histrionic style of taking the piss of beard lengths and other such legal verdicts of our ulema; yes I agree that we have become mired in argumentation and have distorted our perspectives, but this does not mean that ju or anyone has a right to trivialise sacred law and fiqhi masail, who do ju think ju are? I think a large part of the problem is that many of ju and me are too lazy to follow the obediences to the shariah and thus make excuses, that even goats have beards blardy blah; yes goats do have beards and external appearances are not inward realities, nonetheless The Prophet sal'Allahu 'alahi wasalaam had a beard and it is wajib in every school of fiqh to have a beard; did ju know, that when the ayah was revealed about the beliving women covering themselves, that the muslim women and especially of The Prophetic household, took down the curtains and wrapped themselves in curtains until they were able to purchase more suitable fitting garbs from the local market place; now just because ju have these muslim sisters who wonder why islam won't fit into their designer hand-bags, we have them telling us to shut the fiqh up and allow them to dress as they please, many times going against the obediences to the law. Don't get me wrong, i would never demean a kurri who doesn't wear the hijab, I do believe that the muslim is about much more than external appearance, but don't try to tell me that hijab is not obligatory; that's just caprice yarni and ju need to shut the F up, before ju tell us to shut the fiqh up.


Moving on to the point about political activism? I have one question, why is that Indian looking drink of piss not in jihad? And instead standing around making videos? Ju know there's this wise-crack that someone once made, that people who stand still get more tired than those moving around; so why is this drink of piss standing around and telling others to go to jihad when he himself is standing around looking like a drink of piss. I think these kids need to see the barra picture and realise that the western intellegensia would kick crap out of their arguments and points of views; so it's easy to stand around talking angrily, but after all is said and done, more is said than done; ju know it's funny that the people on here agreeing are just going to agree and then go back to their tv dinners lal and act like they've actually done something, when the only thing they've done is like masturbation, feels good at first, but then ju realise that ju're only screwing jurself.

Speaking out against oppression, tyranny and for the weak, is a noble and salient issue in islam, yet don't ju think that we are drunk on it? And fed up of not being able to do much over and above token chanting? Yes we all speak for Palestine, yet what good has it done in fifty years? Ju can't just go around shouting like ju've found the answer to the worlds ills, there's alot more to the formula than just blindly bleating. Frankly though, she's polarised me with her obnoxious trivialising the issue of sacred law and frankly, the same people who are lost in argumentation over fiqh will be the same ones causing major problems with the political issues as well; what makes ju think if everyone turned their attention to that, anything would change? Infact we'd be in more zillat the way the muslim bufoons would behave.

If ju think that talking about Palestine in the masjid khutbah will change anything, then ju are just a deluded individual.

[Mudassar-Rana]

Posting the video was never about the rights or wrongs of the actual event - it was about the frustration we all at sometimes feel about the topic discussed in khutbahs.

Yes it is haram to disturba khutbah. No one said it wasnt but it takes a brave woman to walk in to a room full of men and share your anger. Talking about or expressing anger against the treatment of muslims world over will not solve anything and never did. unfortunately we are an ummah of talk and protests and not actions. However what discussing releveant issues does do it releases the pent up frustrations the youth feel.

Why is it peculiar to youth and not other elements of society? The reason being is that the elders get away with living their isolated lives within their own communities. They can get away with watching entertainment in their own languages and rarely watch or read the english press. They rarely have to go out and work within the host communities and feel that you have to explain issues that may or may not be linked to your existence.

Taking the holier than thou line that it was haraam and she is a fame seeker is keeping it extraordinarily simple. Surely there are easier ways of gaining fame than walking into a room full of men? She could have sat on her bed like she does in another video.

It may be wrong. it may be haram, but to ignore the sentiments and pent up frustrations of the young is worse.

[Know-the-Ledge]

If the ends are noble, the means must commensurate, in the grown up world, being frustrated about something gives you no right to break obvious decorums, it gets ju ignored and treated like an immature brat, I also wonder if she would have pulled this stunt if she didn't have a camera and jutube to upload it on to; walking into a masjid and disrupting its sanctity with a rant about how we should talk about political issues is also keeping it extraordinarily simple; in this age of internet fame seekers, such a stunt is par for the course, there's nothing brave about it, it's driven by a pretentious agenda of 'hits' and 'likes' and we're seeing an explosion of this all over.

Surprising how the usual defences of 'don't touch me' ricoched around the room out of her mouth; some brave woman that knows that they're not even allowed to touch her, or they'll be terrified of touching her, why should they touch you? If ju're so worried about jur izzat then don't go around being an anti-social tool; it's brave putting jurself in the face of danger, it's not brave go around behaving like a nark then ordering people not to touch ju; where was the danger? lal

I'll tell ju why it's peculiar to the youth and not the elders; it's because there's this old proverb that if ju're not a liberal in jur youth, then you don't have a heart and if ju're not a consevative in ju're middle-age, they ju don't have a head. This kurri is just showing the passion and zeal of youth, when ju mature out, ju realise that things are not as simple as releasing pent up frustrations when and where ju feel like it and change and world issues are much more complex than brazen demonstrations of frustrations.

This video is just a desperate attempt at wanting to gratfiy the self by looking to be doing something, after talking hot-air on her bed, she's now had to venture out to the next level and made herself look like a tool; she has no regard for the rights of the masjid or the khutba, the other points she made, everyone knows that, the youth know that and are impotent in the face of an establishment that keeps them controlled and the elders are fed up of not seeing any sizeable change in many years of their seeing this cacophony of world events unravelling around the world.

This post has been edited by Know-The-Ledge: 23 February 2012 - 02:44 PM

[Know-the-Ledge]

LMTA!! Who is this jutube rent-a-scholar. So she says she can give a better khutbah from her bedroom yet she needs her laptop and mufti al-google open to cross-reference from? I heard al-Google ibn wifi of dar-ul internet shareef is a najdi LAFF MY TOPI AFF HAHAHAHAHA What kind of advanced intellectual training about Fardh 'ayn has she been through? To sit there and tell us about obligations? Just because we have a problem of village maulvis coming here from Pakistan doesn't mean that she has licence to become a scholar and alumni of Shaykh ul-Search Engine ibn bluetooth. I can vibe with her speaking about the social issues, but I can't vibe with her taking up books...sorry I mean taking up internet and buthabook shareef and becoming a scholar herself. Mufti Shakyh Naveed Jameel of Dar-ul Madrassah Ghosiya Shareef has spent over fifteen years starting from his teenage years to become a Mufti and a great teacher of ours; i'll stick with him, whilst deluded individuals await for the next jutube video of Shaykhni Virgin media 100mbps shareef. This jokers need to be condemned and brushed aside with complete contempt.

We have atleast three Imams aff the top of my head who are British born and educated who are being promulagating on the scene right now and are speaking about the issues that the youth find galvanising, things are changing and no they're no jutube mujahids, they're Lions who go out on the proper platforms, not in their pyjamas sitting on their bunk beds with their quotes website open to reference lal. I now await for her next video to comes straight from Damascus, with her practising what she preaches. She's going to teach the public about deen? Ju're 'having a giraffe' and she doesn't have a 'scooby doo'.

This post has been edited by Know-The-Ledge: 23 February 2012 - 03:01 PM

[seeker]

What a terrible thing she has done! And then showing off about it on YouTube! The worst part of all is that she thinks she is doing a GOOD thing...

[The-Mughal-Sister]

Mudassar-Rana, on 23 February 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

Posting the video was never about the rights or wrongs of the actual event - it was about the frustration we all at sometimes feel about the topic discussed in khutbahs.

Yes it is haram to disturba khutbah. No one said it wasnt but it takes a brave woman to walk in to a room full of men and share your anger. Talking about or expressing anger against the treatment of muslims world over will not solve anything and never did. unfortunately we are an ummah of talk and protests and not actions. However what discussing releveant issues does do it releases the pent up frustrations the youth feel.

Why is it peculiar to youth and not other elements of society? The reason being is that the elders get away with living their isolated lives within their own communities. They can get away with watching entertainment in their own languages and rarely watch or read the english press. They rarely have to go out and work within the host communities and feel that you have to explain issues that may or may not be linked to your existence.

Taking the holier than thou line that it was haraam and she is a fame seeker is keeping it extraordinarily simple. Surely there are easier ways of gaining fame than walking into a room full of men? She could have sat on her bed like she does in another video.

It may be wrong. it may be haram, but to ignore the sentiments and pent up frustrations of the young is worse.

But that's just it, it's just empty futile frustrations, ignoring what is wrong and haraam, does that make her actions valid?!
No she is a raving lunatic.

The problem with the Internet youth is they think they can conquer the world from behind a screen arguing to the camera, come out in the real world where the war is killing people, where you will have to argue with real people and put your point across and you will relaise that it isn't as easy as it seems.

First the Peers now the scholars, I find all this 'dissin' scholars highly distasteful, what have we done in our sad lives to disregard their years of study, and the fact pepole find this girl's childish actions praise worthy surprises me.

Excellent posts KTL.

This post has been edited by The-Mughal-Sister: 23 February 2012 - 03:25 PM

[Fekay]

KTL - I disagree with your 12 paragraphs brother. Address the message and NOT the messenger!

[badman]

Salams,

Is she for real??? Just glad Lunacy Islam is not just monopolised by Muslim boys/men!!! when is pancake day in the UK - its sometime in February, right? LolZ
@ the title ''[LIVE]Lioness of Allah Shames Imam at Jummah" (My God, LolZ!!!)

Agree with KTL's sentiments regarding the The Laws of Fiqh, The sanctity of the Masjid and 'The Qutbah'... I mean 'shut the Fiqh up' - whats that all about? (Theres a time and a place for jokes) those people she's mocking or trying to mock they gave their lives away for us! Theres a saying in urdu/hindi which goes along the lines '(something something) kuta na idhar ka na udhar ka'

[Fekay]

OK, I guess it's easier to assassinate the messenger instead!!!!

[badman]

Salams,

Here's another 'do gooder'
Whats wrong with our society? Unbeleivable
hmmmm, me thinks she's called 'Sher-banu' (Roaoor Roaaar)

[Fatema-the-resplendent]

There is a difference between publicity stunts and genuine protest.

Religious nutters really wind me up, the first clip was all about nutterism for publicity.

The second video was genuine protest of a concerned Muslim, who had the right to protest in a Muslim Shop, who were financially benefitting Isralies whilst sustaining the sufferring of poor Palestinians.

This post has been edited by Fatema-the-resplendent: 23 February 2012 - 03:49 PM