[Aqib-Qadri]

Recently, the MQI organised a "meelad" ceremony INSIDE a HINDU temple in Lahore. Proudly relayed on TV, here are the video clips posted by MQI zealots on youtube.
Also see the picture attached - showing MQI members, Hindu pandit etc, with the meelad poster in the background.
If you watch the video closely, a young girl and another woman are standing at a doorstep of their home, with photos of idols (krishna etc) visible in the background. Next, will the MQI invite Hindus to the mosque to do bhajan, and prostration to Shiva? Or maybe the "birthday" of krishna kanhaiyya (who according to their own texts was a thief, and an adulterer)?
Furthermore, it is disgusting to see Gumbade Khizra on one side of the poster, and "Omm" written on the other. A clear and un-bridled insolence (tauheen) shown to one of the most important symbols of Islam. Astaghferullah. Will any MQI member prove that this blatant disrespect to Meelad of the Holy Prophet and to that of the Green Dome is part of Islam, and not KUFR?

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[Aqib-Qadri]

Here are the youtube links
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lau4U6GT5JM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjPyBaAuewo

[Fekay]

I won't make a judgement until a 7 hour lecture is released by dr shaib.

[badman]

Salams,

Our Prophet S.A.W came for the whole of mankind not just Muslims. I have heard that the description of our Beloved S.A.W has been reported in Hindu Texts (instead of belittling somebody why not ask for their Hidayat?) Why cant one not be pleased that the Birth of Rasool'ALLAH is being celebrated by Non-Muslims? The Hindu's celebrating The Beautiful Birth is an amazing achievement in it self, can you imagine the grief they will be getting from hindu extremists across the borders? As for the Hindu's worshipping in Masjid's (there are ways of engaging in a civilised dialogue, there are ways of putting our beliefs across in a pleasant manner) if a group of (invited) people are to attend our Masjids most likely out of etiquette (if they are not intoxicated) they would ask for our permission to carry out their (idol) worship, would they not? I am sure (out of good Aqhlaq) MIQ must have asked for permission to perform the prayers in the temple and if their permission had been declined they would not have carried out their prayers. I dont think any other faith is obliged to carry out certain prayers at certain times (like us)........ clear communication is the way forward.


@ Fekay - LolZ

[piara-madinah]

Aqib-Qadri, on 17 February 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Recently, the MQI organised a "meelad" ceremony INSIDE a HINDU temple in Lahore. Proudly relayed on TV, here are the video clips posted by MQI zealots on youtube.
Also see the picture attached - showing MQI members, Hindu pandit etc, with the meelad poster in the background.
If you watch the video closely, a young girl and another woman are standing at a doorstep of their home, with photos of idols (krishna etc) visible in the background. Next, will the MQI invite Hindus to the mosque to do bhajan, and prostration to Shiva? Or maybe the "birthday" of krishna kanhaiyya (who according to their own texts was a thief, and an adulterer)?
Furthermore, it is disgusting to see Gumbade Khizra on one side of the poster, and "Omm" written on the other. A clear and un-bridled insolence (tauheen) shown to one of the most important symbols of Islam. Astaghferullah. Will any MQI member prove that this blatant disrespect to Meelad of the Holy Prophet and to that of the Green Dome is part of Islam, and not KUFR?

If it is true what ahle ilam islamic alims said about this event .

[warea]

Ill quote a report quoted by Imam Bukhari which has relevance here

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XXII: Praying in a church or temple.

'Umar said, "We do not enter your churches because of the statues and pictures in them." Ibn 'Abbas used to pray in a church provided there were no statues in it.

[Fatema-the-resplendent]

I think it's wonderful and Mohammed SAWW does not just belong to Muslims, 'Mercy for Mankind' this is what God says.

This post has been edited by Fatema-the-resplendent: 18 February 2012 - 12:19 AM

[Know-the-Ledge]

Why don't we put idols in the kaabah in a show of unity?

This post has been edited by Know-The-Ledge: 18 February 2012 - 12:29 AM

[Khalid_the_Warrior]

Fekay, on 17 February 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

I won't make a judgement until a 7 hour lecture is released by dr shaib.

Are you sure you would be able to watch whole 7 hours lecture though!

I agree with KTL, I can't pass any judgment on these people but I would never go to a hindu temple and celeberate Mawlid.

[hidayah227]

This mawlid was held To Build The bridge between the Muslim & Hindu communities in the Indo-Pak subcontinent . This is a hugh step forward for promoting interfaith harmony between all people from different backgrounds,culture & religion.

Come, come, whoever you are.
Wanderer, idolator, worshipper of fire, come even though you have broken your vows a thousand times,
Come, and come yet again. Ours is not a caravan of despair.
MOULANA RUMI

[Desert-Sheikh]

Unity with non-Muslim = Nobel Peace Prize
Unity among Muslim = Who cares?

PS: Bulleh Shah asmani udeeyan pharrda, jayrra ghar baitha onu pharrya ye naeen (Bulleh Shah he grabs for heavenly flying things
but doesn’t grasp the one who’s sitting at home)

[piara-madinah]

Know-The-Ledge, on 18 February 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

Why don't we put idols in the kaabah in a show of unity?

bilkul sahi ub minhaj waly is ka jwab bhi deen, musalmanon main unityho gye hay between muslims koi problems hay nahe ya minhaj ko glasses cahiyee ik fiker hay bas in ko non muslims main or muslims main unity zaroor hona cahiyee.

[piara-madinah]

If they want unity between hindus and muslims they could do this all in another building why temple , woh kahen or arrange kerty or hindus ko bhi bulwa lety , jesy hindu cant enter musjid to mulsims ko apny Sarkar ka milaad kahen or arrange kerna cahiye tha temple main nahe , unity ik bahana hay, real problem hay famous hona or multi cultural grants lena or pehly muslims ko to ik jugha ker loo .

[gujjubond]

Desert-Sheikh, on 18 February 2012 - 01:50 AM, said:

Unity with non-Muslim = Nobel Peace Prize
Unity among Muslim = Who cares?

PS: Bulleh Shah asmani udeeyan pharrda, jayrra ghar baitha onu pharrya ye naeen (Bulleh Shah he grabs for heavenly flying things
but doesn’t grasp the one who’s sitting at home)

You know well brother that He (Dr tahir) has been trying this for 30 years, and you know well how many FATWAs have been issued on him because of his Unity effort.

He has been granted nice name of SULLEH KULLi ...

[gujjubond]

piara-madinah, on 18 February 2012 - 01:56 AM, said:

bilkul sahi ub minhaj waly is ka jwab bhi deen, musalmanon main unityho gye hay between muslims koi problems hay nahe ya minhaj ko glasses cahiyee ik fiker hay bas in ko non muslims main or muslims main unity zaroor hona cahiyee.

If Minhajiin let Hindu to worship Idols in the mosque then you should ask this question that time ... Right now Your prophet's (SAW) noble birthday was celebrated by non Muslim, and we should be proud of this.

[piara-madinah]

gujjubond, on 18 February 2012 - 02:33 AM, said:

You know well brother that He (Dr tahir) has been trying this for 30 years, and you know well how many FATWAs have been issued on him because of his Unity effort.

He has been granted nice name of SULLEH KULLi ...

SULLEH KULLI ka real meaning dosry islamic mufakiron say bhi sekheen. 30 years kiya kafi nahe hain muslims ko unite kerny kay liye lakin uger sara kaam non muslims ko unite kerny per laga diya jaye tooooooooo natijha bhi samany hay.

[piara-madinah]

gujjubond, on 18 February 2012 - 02:37 AM, said:

If Minhajiin let Hindu to worship Idols in the mosque then you should ask this question that time ... Right now Your prophet's (SAW) noble birthday was celebrated by non Muslim, and we should be proud of this.

mery muhteram bhai minhajin nay acha kiya hay mellad ki mehfil rooz sujni cahiyee lakin Sarkar nabi paak saw nay buton ko tora tha , hindu kay temple main nahe or kahen manyen or invite hindus but why in temple kiya hamary pass jughen khtam ho gye hain, maza hay un ko invite kareen na kay un kay ghar ja ker manaoo .

rahi baat mery Sarkar saw ki un ki mehfilen her rooz sujty hain or sujty rahen gi farishty rooz asamn per un ki mehfil sajaty hain , dunia kay he rkoney main mehfil sujty hay baat mehfil ki nahe hay venue ki hay.

kitna hi acha hota woh apny kisi minhaj madrissa main mehfil kerty and invite hindus unity ki uger baat hay to.

[sunniskeptic]

How is this any different from the kufr of the Mughal Emperor Akbar?
So, they have all these idols of Ram, Krishna, Sita,Ganesh, Kali Maa and so on and you are going there to celebrate
Milad of the Most Merciful Prophet who came to break the idols of the Kaaba?

It is nothing but pure politics and pure blasphemy yet the braindead followers of Dr.Tahir Minhaji still try and praise him and justify it (but if another scholar was to do the same thing
they'd make fun of him for it!) How is this any better than the perrenialists or the likes of FUREC? In fact it is far worse!

If you have no shame, do whatever you want. If its unity you want, and its all the same, why don't you become Hindus again?
After all, you all worship the same god! Insha Allah akhirat mein bhi HinduoN ke saath hii hoga!

This is pir-worship of the worse kind. Tahirul Qadri is no different from any of the other cult leaders in the West except he is using Islam
as his calling card and now promoting blasphemy to please his paymasters. Any respect I had for him or his followers -- which I used to have--
has long since gone.

"Hum tau doobay sanam, tumhein bhi saath lay doobaiN gay".

And please don't quote Rumi out of context to justify the charlatan Professor's blasphemies. Rumi was calling all others TO Islam and
not going to idol houses...

[hidayah227]

Slave_of_the_Two_Husayns, on 18 February 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

How is this any different from the kufr of the Mughal Emperor Akbar?
So, they have all these idols of Ram, Krishna, Sita,Ganesh, Kali Maa and so on and you are going there to celebrate
Milad of the Most Merciful Prophet who came to break the idols of the Kaaba?

It is nothing but pure politics and pure blasphemy yet the braindead followers of Dr.Tahir Minhaji still try and praise him and justify it (but if another scholar was to do the same thing
they'd make fun of him for it!) How is this any better than the perrenialists or the likes of FUREC? In fact it is far worse!

If you have no shame, do whatever you want. If its unity you want, and its all the same, why don't you become Hindus again?
After all, you all worship the same god! Insha Allah akhirat mein bhi HinduoN ke saath hii hoga!

This is pir-worship of the worse kind. Tahirul Qadri is no different from any of the other cult leaders in the West except he is using Islam
as his calling card and now promoting blasphemy to please his paymasters. Any respect I had for him or his followers -- which I used to have--
has long since gone.

"Hum tau doobay sanam, tumhein bhi saath lay doobaiN gay".

And please don't quote Rumi out of context to justify the charlatan Professor's blasphemies. Rumi was calling all others TO Islam and
not going to idol houses...

On completing the Mathnawi, Rumi died..His work was done and the members of all religious communities and cultures in Konya were present in his funeral procession: At Rumi’s grand funeral procession Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and Sufis cried and mourned in a manner that one would have thought that Rumi belonged to each one of them. Rumi’s visions, words, and life teach us how to reach inner peace and happiness so we can finally stop the continual stream of hostility and hatred and achieve true global peace and harmony. They all uncovered their heads and walked the streets of Konya , wailing, carrying the instruments of their particular religions high in the air. When the Sultan of Konya asked the non-Muslims why they were mourning so for this Muslim imam, they told him that through Rumi they had found the real nature of Christ, Moses and all the prophets. Rumi had fanned the sparks into embers and the embers into flames. He had gone from being raw to cooked and then burned, to use his words.

[Fatema-the-resplendent]

hidayah227, on 18 February 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:

On completing the Mathnawi, Rumi died..His work was done and the members of all religious communities and cultures in Konya were present in his funeral procession: At Rumi’s grand funeral procession Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and Sufis cried and mourned in a manner that one would have thought that Rumi belonged to each one of them. Rumi’s visions, words, and life teach us how to reach inner peace and happiness so we can finally stop the continual stream of hostility and hatred and achieve true global peace and harmony. They all uncovered their heads and walked the streets of Konya , wailing, carrying the instruments of their particular religions high in the air. When the Sultan of Konya asked the non-Muslims why they were mourning so for this Muslim imam, they told him that through Rumi they had found the real nature of Christ, Moses and all the prophets. Rumi had fanned the sparks into embers and the embers into flames. He had gone from being raw to cooked and then burned, to use his words.[/size]

Beautiful, what a man. He harboured no hate for people of other faiths and this is where the majority of the Muslims fail. Hating God's creatures is a sin.

Slave of two husayns- Bulleh Shah, Rumi, And even Allama Iqbal have been branded kafir by people of their time for holding 'heretical' views. Why? because they said things different to the mad mullah mentality. They talked of Love not Religion, they wanted peace with everyone because they realised that love for the Creator and seeking that kind of inner spirituality included everyone in its realm. God's reality therefore is all encompassing and is beyond any Religion. Rumi's call of 'Come come whoever you are' is a reference to this when he invites to love everyone since Religion bars people not love. Bulleh Shah says 'lok teno kafir akhday, to aaho aaho aakh' he is saying defiantly that he would rather be a kafir if it meant he is seen as mad-in love with God. His complacency and lack of anger demonstrates inner peace and of a greater goal than found amongst the angry Mullah's. He did not care for fragility which defined his belief in God according to superficial perception which is often founded in Religious people. Mansur Hallaj even went as a far to say he is Haq. I am sure he would be condemned to death even today because those who think they represent God on this earth have not even reached that stage of unification.

This post has been edited by Fatema-the-resplendent: 18 February 2012 - 12:03 PM