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Tafaseer Translated By Barailwis Ilm e ghayb in Sufi and standard tafaseer

Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:36 AM (#1) User is offline   AbuAlqamah 

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Here are extracts of famous Tafaseer translated by Barailwis themselves about Ayat 101 of Surah At-Tawbah

1) Tafsir Ruh Al-Bayan of Ismail Haqqi, Maktabah Ghawsiyah
2) Dur Al-Manthur of As-Suyuti, published by Dhiya Al-Quran publishers
3) Tafsir Madarik At-Tanzeel of Nasafi, published by Fareed book Stal
4) Tafsir Al-Mazhari of Qadhi Thana'ullah Panipati, published by Dhiya Al-Quran publishers
5) Tafsir ibn Kathir, published by Dhiya Al-Quran publishers

It is followed by the Tafaseer

6) Tibyan of the Barailwi scholar Ghulam Rasul As-Sa'idi
7) Dhiya Al-Quran of the Barailwi scholar Karam Shah Al-Bhervi

http://docs.umm-ul-q...org/Munafiq.pdf
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:38 AM (#2) User is offline   AbuAlqamah 

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Tafseer of Surah Al-Qasas verse 44-46

1) Tafseer Madarik
2) Tafseer Mazhari
3) Tafseer ibn Kathir
4) tafseer Ruh Al-Bayan

http://docs.umm-ul-q...org/Witness.pdf

At least people can see what scholars said and none can say it is wrongly translated
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:43 AM (#3) User is offline   AbuAlqamah 

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Insha Allah much more to come on verses related to ilm e ghayb and others
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 04:10 AM (#4) User is offline   warea 

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Lol at the wahhabiyya trying to explain aqeeda to Muslims.
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:17 PM (#5) User is offline   AbuAlqamah 

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Salam aleykum


Tafsir Mazhari and Nasafi on Surah At-Tawbah, verse 43

http://docs.umm-ul-q...rg/Munafiq2.pdf

Qadhi Thanaullah Panipati and Nasafi were two great Hanafi scholars, and Barailwis translated their Tafaseer because they valued them
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:58 PM (#6) User is offline   AbuAlqamah 

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Tafsir Nasafi regarding Surah Hud, verse 49, Surah Yusuf, verse 102 and Surah Ale Imran, verse 44

http://docs.umm-ul-qura.org/Nasafi.pdf
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 11:23 PM (#7) User is offline   Sunnibrother 

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Abul are you Sunni ? You said Barelivis so you must be non -sunni.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 11:59 PM (#8) User is offline   AbuAlqamah 

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Salam aleykum

Tasfir Surah Al-A'raf, verse 187-188

1) Tafsir ibn Kathir
2) Tafsir Mazhari
3) Tafsir Dur Manthur
4) Tafsir Nasafi

http://docs.umm-ul-qura.org/Ghayb.pdf

I am Sunni, but not Barailwi
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:05 AM (#9) User is offline   AbuAlqamah 

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Salam aleykum

Other beneficial books on Barailwiyat:

This book contains only quotes from books translated by Sufis, such as Aisha Bewley, Abdesamad Clarke, Muhtar Holland, Abdal hakim Murad and others, so none can say that it is a wrong translation

http://docs.umm-ul-q...20Bralwiyah.pdf

Also the book "the Dalail of the Barailwis"

http://docs.umm-ul-qura.org/Dalail.pdf

http://docs.umm-ul-q...org/Dalail2.pdf
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:10 AM (#11) User is offline   AbuAlqamah 

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Salam aleykum

More gifts for the Barailwis

The Dalail of the Barailwis on Mukhtar e Kull

http://docs.umm-ul-q...org/Dalail3.pdf

Scans from Malfuz and Hadaiq Bakhish of Ahmad Raza Khan:

http://docs.umm-ul-qura.org/Malfuz.pdf

http://docs.umm-ul-qura.org/Hadaiq.pdf

Video lecture of "A Gift to the Barailwis"

http://www.umm-ul-qu....asp?art_id=157
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 05:03 AM (#12) User is offline   4dvti 

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You are waiting your time on this forum. If you cannot even respect our noble scholars and ullema properly then your futile attempts are not worth paying attention to.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:14 PM (#13) User is offline   arzooemadinah 

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View PostAbuAlqamah, on 17 January 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:

Salam aleykum

Tasfir Surah Al-A'raf, verse 187-188

1) Tafsir ibn Kathir
2) Tafsir Mazhari
3) Tafsir Dur Manthur
4) Tafsir Nasafi

http://docs.umm-ul-qura.org/Ghayb.pdf

I am Sunni, but not Barailwi

If you not brlavi why you worry about us then strangeI think you got some sort of illness always worrying for others so better read your tafasers !st and then teach others.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:45 PM (#14) User is offline   H@ydR 

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View PostAbuAlqamah, on 19 February 2012 - 05:10 AM, said:

Salam aleykum

More gifts for the Barailwis

The Dalail of the Barailwis on Mukhtar e Kull

http://docs.umm-ul-q...org/Dalail3.pdf

Scans from Malfuz and Hadaiq Bakhish of Ahmad Raza Khan:

http://docs.umm-ul-qura.org/Malfuz.pdf

http://docs.umm-ul-qura.org/Hadaiq.pdf

Video lecture of "A Gift to the Barailwis"

http://www.umm-ul-qu....asp?art_id=157



Which school of thought you belong to? You are attacking the ahle sunnat wal jamaah



“Prophet (s) said: ‘When I went on Miraj I saw on the Pillars of Arsh an inscription, which I read and understood as “There is No God but Allah, Muhamad is the Messenger of Allah, I have supported him with Ali ”’.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:47 PM (#15) User is offline   H@ydR 

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View Postarzooemadinah, on 21 August 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

If you not brlavi why you worry about us then strangeI think you got some sort of illness always worrying for others so better read your tafasers !st and then teach others.


Looks like he wants a debate with us, we will give him what he asks for
“Prophet (s) said: ‘When I went on Miraj I saw on the Pillars of Arsh an inscription, which I read and understood as “There is No God but Allah, Muhamad is the Messenger of Allah, I have supported him with Ali ”’.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:48 PM (#16) User is offline   objective-enquirer 

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our hit-and-run brother abu al-qamah, please present an argument from any book that you have linked and explore it along with us. I think, you do not really understand the issue yourself and are merely providing references which have been spoon fed to you. Please start a single issue then explain those references to us and thus make an argument. You are most welcome to address us as brailwis and we also have the right to address you as najdi wahabi.

the first point about ilm al-ghayb you should understand is that we do not consider this aqeeda for Rasul Allah(s) to part of our faith nor consider the denier out of ahl al-sunnah. We mererly consdier our interpretation to be the correct one and do not issue fatwas on those who do not believe in it.

secondly, you must understand that ilm al-ghayb for Rasul Allah(s) is believed to be gradual. This means that at the begining of the Quranic revelation to the end of it; there was a gradual progression in the ghayb-knowledge, culminating in the knowledge of the unseen greatest for any amongst the creation of God. Allah almighty is the Creator so the relation of knowledge between the Prophet(s) and God is even greater than that between a drop to the ocean or a grain of sand to the sahara desert.

on the other hand, we have the najdi wahabi brothers in line with ibn taymiyah consider God as a physical body and literally sitting on the chair as you are now. what kind of tawheed is that?
 

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:37 AM (#17) User is offline   SyedMohsin.86 

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View PostAbuAlqamah, on 17 January 2012 - 02:36 AM, said:

Here are extracts of famous Tafaseer translated by Barailwis themselves about Ayat 101 of Surah At-Tawbah

1) Tafsir Ruh Al-Bayan of Ismail Haqqi, Maktabah Ghawsiyah
2) Dur Al-Manthur of As-Suyuti, published by Dhiya Al-Quran publishers
3) Tafsir Madarik At-Tanzeel of Nasafi, published by Fareed book Stal
4) Tafsir Al-Mazhari of Qadhi Thana'ullah Panipati, published by Dhiya Al-Quran publishers
5) Tafsir ibn Kathir, published by Dhiya Al-Quran publishers

It is followed by the Tafaseer

6) Tibyan of the Barailwi scholar Ghulam Rasul As-Sa'idi
7) Dhiya Al-Quran of the Barailwi scholar Karam Shah Al-Bhervi

http://docs.umm-ul-q...org/Munafiq.pdf



Ayat 101 of Surah At-Tawbah Translation:
اور (مسلمانو!) تمہارے گرد و نواح کے دیہاتی گنواروں میں بعض منافق ہیں اور بعض باشندگانِ مدینہ بھی، یہ لوگ نفاق پر اڑے ہوئے ہیں، آپ انہیں (اب تک) نہیں جانتے، ہم انہیں جانتے ہیں (بعد میں حضور صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم کو بھی جملہ منافقین کا علم اور معرفت عطا کر دی گئی)۔ عنقریب ہم انہیں دو مرتبہ (دنیا ہی میں) عذاب دیں گے٭ پھر وہ (قیامت میں) بڑے عذاب کی طرف پلٹائے جائیں گے، ٭ ایک بار جب ان کی پہچان کرا دی گئی اور حضور صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے خطبۂ جمعہ کے دوران ان منافقین کو نام لے لے کر مسجد سے نکال دیا، یہ پہلا عذاب بصورتِ ذلت و رسوائی تھا؛ اور دوسرا عذاب بصورتِ ہلاکت و مُقاتلہ ہوا جس کا حکم بعد میں آیا۔
Prophet (S) Knowledge of Unseen:: Hadith on Signs of Hypocrite
’’حضرت ابوسعید خدری اور حضرت انس بن مالک رضی اﷲ عنہما سے مروی ہے کہ حضور نبی اکرم صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے فرمایا : عنقریب میری امت میں اختلاف اور تفرقہ بازی ہو گی، ایک قوم ایسی ہوگی کہ وہ لوگ گفتار کے اچھے اور کردار کے برے ہوں گے، قرآن پاک پڑھیں گے جو ان کے گلے سے نہیں اترے گا (اور ایک روایت میں ہے کہ تم اپنی نمازوں اور روزوں کو ان کی نمازوں اور روزوں کے مقابلہ میں حقیر سمجھو گے) وہ دین سے ایسے خارج جائیں گے جیسے تیر شکار سے خارج ہو جاتا ہے، اور واپس نہیں آئیں گے جب تک تیر کمان میں واپس نہ آ جائے وہ ساری مخلوق میں سب سے برے ہوں گے، خوشخبری ہو اسے جو انہیں قتل کرے اور جسے وہ قتل کریں۔ وہ اﷲ عزوجل کی کتاب کی طرف بلائیں گے لیکن اس کے ساتھ ان کا کوئی تعلق نہیں ہو گا ان کا قاتل ان کی نسبت اﷲ تعالیٰ کے زیادہ قریب ہو گا، صحابہ کرام نے عرض کیا : یا رسول اﷲ! ان کی نشانی کیا ہے؟ فرمایا : سر منڈانا۔

أبو داود في السنن، کتاب : السنة، باب : في : قتال الخوارج، 4 / 243، الرقم : 4765،و ابن ماجة في السنن، المقدمة، باب : في ذکر الخوارج، 1 / 60، الرقم : 169

If we interpret verse wrongly then of course it will contradicts with many hadiths of Prophet (S), which are clearly mentioning Prophet's knowledge of Unseen about Khawarij.


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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:42 AM (#18) User is offline   H@ydR 

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View PostSyedMohsin.86, on 22 August 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

Ayat 101 of Surah At-Tawbah Translation:
اور (مسلمانو!) تمہارے گرد و نواح کے دیہاتی گنواروں میں بعض منافق ہیں اور بعض باشندگانِ مدینہ بھی، یہ لوگ نفاق پر اڑے ہوئے ہیں، آپ انہیں (اب تک) نہیں جانتے، ہم انہیں جانتے ہیں (بعد میں حضور صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم کو بھی جملہ منافقین کا علم اور معرفت عطا کر دی گئی)۔ عنقریب ہم انہیں دو مرتبہ (دنیا ہی میں) عذاب دیں گے٭ پھر وہ (قیامت میں) بڑے عذاب کی طرف پلٹائے جائیں گے، ٭ ایک بار جب ان کی پہچان کرا دی گئی اور حضور صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے خطبۂ جمعہ کے دوران ان منافقین کو نام لے لے کر مسجد سے نکال دیا، یہ پہلا عذاب بصورتِ ذلت و رسوائی تھا؛ اور دوسرا عذاب بصورتِ ہلاکت و مُقاتلہ ہوا جس کا حکم بعد میں آیا۔
Prophet (S) Knowledge of Unseen:: Hadith on Signs of Hypocrite
’’حضرت ابوسعید خدری اور حضرت انس بن مالک رضی اﷲ عنہما سے مروی ہے کہ حضور نبی اکرم صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے فرمایا : عنقریب میری امت میں اختلاف اور تفرقہ بازی ہو گی، ایک قوم ایسی ہوگی کہ وہ لوگ گفتار کے اچھے اور کردار کے برے ہوں گے، قرآن پاک پڑھیں گے جو ان کے گلے سے نہیں اترے گا (اور ایک روایت میں ہے کہ تم اپنی نمازوں اور روزوں کو ان کی نمازوں اور روزوں کے مقابلہ میں حقیر سمجھو گے) وہ دین سے ایسے خارج جائیں گے جیسے تیر شکار سے خارج ہو جاتا ہے، اور واپس نہیں آئیں گے جب تک تیر کمان میں واپس نہ آ جائے وہ ساری مخلوق میں سب سے برے ہوں گے، خوشخبری ہو اسے جو انہیں قتل کرے اور جسے وہ قتل کریں۔ وہ اﷲ عزوجل کی کتاب کی طرف بلائیں گے لیکن اس کے ساتھ ان کا کوئی تعلق نہیں ہو گا ان کا قاتل ان کی نسبت اﷲ تعالیٰ کے زیادہ قریب ہو گا، صحابہ کرام نے عرض کیا : یا رسول اﷲ! ان کی نشانی کیا ہے؟ فرمایا : سر منڈانا۔

أبو داود في السنن، کتاب : السنة، باب : في : قتال الخوارج، 4 / 243، الرقم : 4765،و ابن ماجة في السنن، المقدمة، باب : في ذکر الخوارج، 1 / 60، الرقم : 169

If we interpret verse wrongly then of course it will contradicts with many hadiths of Prophet (S), which are clearly mentioning Prophet's knowledge of Unseen about Khawarij.





There are far too many ahadith about this, ilm e ghaib. Aske him to read Seerat e Mustafa.
“Prophet (s) said: ‘When I went on Miraj I saw on the Pillars of Arsh an inscription, which I read and understood as “There is No God but Allah, Muhamad is the Messenger of Allah, I have supported him with Ali ”’.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 11:35 AM (#19) User is offline   SyedMohsin.86 

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View Postobjective-enquirer, on 21 August 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Allah almighty is the Creator so the relation of knowledge between the Prophet(s) and God is even greater than that between a drop to the ocean or a grain of sand to the sahara desert.



Allah almighty has blessed complete knowledge to his most beloved and dearest Prophet Muhammad (S), there is nothing left that has not been shared. so there is no point of comparison of knowledge between Allah and His beloved Prophet S, since Allah has 'Zaati' Knowledge and Prophet S has 'Atai' (blessed, bestowed) Knowledge. This major difference is enough to cut the root of shirk.

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View Postobjective-enquirer, on 21 August 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Allah almighty is the Creator so the relation of knowledge between the Prophet(s) and God is even greater than that between a drop to the ocean or a grain of sand to the sahara desert.


I think this the opening statement of Ala Hazrat Imam Ahmad Raza Khan's marvelous book on Prophet's (Sallallahu Alieh Wassalam) knowledge of unseen 'Ad Daulatul Makkiyah', but all devbandi wahabi still accuse him of believing that Prophet's (Sallallahu Alieh Wassalam) knowledge is is equivalent to the knowledge of Allah (Astaghfirullah).

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