[ansirahmed]

Attached is the fatwa of Golra Sharif sanctioned by Hazrat Pir Syed Shah Abdul Haq Gilani the sajjada nasheen and current custodian of the Shrine of Pir Syed Mehr Ali Shah which sets out their opinion on the Afzaliat issue.

Basically the main points are:

That they believe in the jamhoor e ahle sunnat in regards to the Tafzeel e Sheikhain.

They also believe that if someone having his belief in the fazail of the righteous Khulafa believes Hazrat Ali Karamalaho vajhu as AFZAL then that person is NOT out of the Ahle Sunnat.

They go on to mention that this is because you can find personalities from within the sahaba and the ahle bait who believed that Hazrat Ali karamalo vajhu is AFZAL over ALL the Sahaba.

I think now a lot of the people calling various people shia and rafidhis may stop.

[Tahir-Riaz]

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[objective-enquirer]

the fatwa is issued by golra sharif. at the top it says 'by the instruction of hazrat syed abd al-haq shah sb'

it is a reply to a question about tafzil. the fatwa says that according to jumhur ahl al-sunnat we consider shaykhayn afzal but if anyone respects shaykhayn and coniders Imam Ali as afzal then such a person also belongs to ahl al-sunna because afzaliyat of Imam Ali is also found amongst sahaba and ahl al-bayt. for example, check manaqib aimma arba' by imam baqillani (d. 403 AH)....etc.


now, go on call the sajjada nasheen of golra sharif a non-sunni and out of ahl al-sunna!!!

the tafzil cat is out of the bottle and these mulla brigade are only seeing the forst wave of the tsunami.

insaan ko bedaar to honay do...

[qadrimuslim]

Alhamdulillah

This just goes to show that there are differing opinions on Afzaliyat and senior Shuyukh are not intimidated by ideological extremists

Sayyidi Shah Abdul Haq Jilani GolRavi - Zindabad! (I have had the honour to sit at his feet)
http://www.golarasharif.com/geotv.html

GolRa Shareef - Zindabad!

[piara-madinah]

uger yeh maan liya jaye kay sab rutbay kay etbar say afzaliat main same hain jin ka ziker howa hay in fatwa to bhi to sunni kay eman same rehta hay to woh kion baar baar jhugerta hay .Sab say mohbat keroo yeh pakeeza rutbay waly loog they or nabi paak saaw kay big ashiq .

[Sunni-Police]

Naray Thaqeeq!!

[qadrimuslim]

This video should explain our position. Why we consider Afzaliyat as an undecided matter but why we still consider Sayyiduna Abu Bakr Siddiq (RA) as Afzal among all the Companions (RA)

[Fatema-the-resplendent]

Fatwa number two has been issued on this subject and I couldn't agree more.

Noor Tv have arranged Jalsas for Pir Naseeruddin Shah Sahab who had this view, yet Siddiqui Sahab allows Allamas to come on his channel to say the complete opposite. According to them there is no room in Sunniism for any other Afzal than Hz Abu Bakr RA. Mixed messages or what??

I am Confused.com

[qadrimuslim]

Sayyidi Mufakkir e Islam has explained it well

That the matter is not conclusively decided. But because the majority of the Ulama and Awliyyah of Pak o Hind preferred Sayyiduna Abu Bakr (RA) over all other Companions so we too prefer Sayyiduna Abu Bakr Siddiq (RA) and the case for his excellence is well established.

We don't pass fatwa on someone who out of his own love prefers another Companion, be it Sayyiduna Ali (RA) or Sayyida Fatima (SA) or any other Companion that has been mentioned in the classical books, because a difference of opinion existed in the salaf and is well documented.

It is not the way of the Ahlus Sunnah to brand someone as "misguided" on an unclear issue, especially if it implies many of the salaf were misguided too, mazalallah nauzubillah.

Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama' is not the name of any sect or any group.. to claim you have the authority to throw people out or keep people in over an unclear issue is just plain irresponsible.

[Qadri-Jilani]

ansirahmed, on 10 January 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

That spells game over.

A fatwa from the most respected Sufi Shaykh in the subcontinent from the most respected darbar sharif in Pakistan.

May Allah Ta'ala prolong the shadow of Huzur Lalaa Ji Sahib over the Ahl-us-Sunnah and give him health. I heard a great Shaykh and Alim of our age say about him: "He is protecting the batini (spiritual) structure of the world right now...Allah Ta'ala places this duty on selected Awlyia""

On the trigger-happy fatwa launchers, a fatwa has now been made that should finally put a lid on their erroneous fatwas.

[blogger]

I pray this is a turning point where this fatwa acts as a bridge, the current state of affairs is sad to say the least. I hope a reconciliery atmosphere is maintained where rhetorical retorts don't help in endearing the opposing party (aimed at both sides by the way).

[HAMDONAAT]

Please reply with a written refutation of this fatwa or stay away, and Khuda ke Liey, stop posting these hatemonger Mullahs. (desert sheikh)

[Qadri-Jilani]

blogger, on 11 January 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

I pray this is a turning point where this fatwa acts as a bridge, the current state of affairs is sad to say the least. I hope a reconciliery atmosphere is maintained where rhetorical retorts don't help in endearing the opposing party (aimed at both sides by the way).

I absolutely agree. If they have an ounce of sincerity in the hearts they should acknowledge the fatwa and put down their guns. There's no point fighting for a lost cause (like soldiers in Iraq).

Otherwise all it does is explain it's about animosity and bughz for Qibla Mufakkir-e-Islam as now we have a totally independent fatwa from Golra Sharif. There is not the slightest difference in the views between Qibla Mufakkir-e-Islam and Golra Sharif. Anyone dare to put a fatwa on Qibla Lala Jee Sahib and the limitless mureeds of Golra Sharif?

Give it up and stop making it a fashion to take people outside of the Ahl-us-Sunnah based on your own whimsical and egotistic views. You are fast becoming a small minority.

Embrace unity or risk being consigned to the dustbin of history.

[sunniskeptic]

I think this fatwa gives a very balanced approach to the whole (non) issue and I agree with those who hope it now puts an end to intra-Sunni
animosity. Golra Sharif is a very respected Darbar amongst Sunnis everywhere.

However, my instincts are that this will not have any effect because people are too entrenched in their views and too full of ego to consider another perspective.
Sad, but that is our state right now.

Anyway, the name of Hazrat Pir Sayyid Mihr Ali Shah Golravi rahmatullah alayhi is immortal -- no one (of the celebrity/known) pirs of today is fit to carry his blessed shoes.
He is a proof of Islam in my view from amongst the latter centuries. It is amazing the respect his name holds amongst ALL sects in Pakistan -- except for the real extremist Wahabis.

[qadrimuslim]

The main point to note in the fatwa is that the Afzaliyat of Sayyiduna Siddiq-e-Akbar (RA) is considered a "Jumhuri" (Majority) opinion. Sayyidi Mufakkir e Islam has always taught the same thing.

We believe that the majority of the Sahaba Kiram (RA) and the majority of the Ulama preferred Sayyiduna Siddiq (RA) over everyone else, so we too prefer Sayyiduna Siddiq (RA).

We also believe that there was a significant minority of famous Mujtahid Sahaba (RA) who preferred Sayyiduna Ali (RA) and many of the Ahlul Bayt (RA) believed the same. And it is because of this difference that Ijma cannot be established.

So clearly, this is an issue of majority/minority and not Ijma.

Sometimes I wonder what the big fuss is all about!

[Fatema-the-resplendent]

Sometimes I wonder what the big fuss is all about! (QM)

Khuda na khasta, God forbid someone says Ali is Afzal. This is why there is so much FUSS about it.

[qadrimuslim]

Sadly, that's an extremism that exists in some ranks of Sunnis.

The simple fact is that you should not judge someone if all you can find in his aqeeda is a preference of Ali (RA)

Allahu Alam

[Know-the-Ledge]

I totally agree with qadrimuslim. There is room for the opinion that Imam Ali 'alahis salaam was afazal, yet the consensus favours Hazrat Abu Bakr may Allah be pleased with him. I've been following this (non)issue for a while and hope to God it can be laid to rest and will give credit where it's due, that qadrimuslim has certainly articulated the issue with clarity for passive recipients like me.

I am of the opinion that Abu Bakr is afzal, but if someone else holds a converse opinion, I am in deference to that; that's their conviction, it's nothing personal and it's the conviction of many muslims who are already in paradise, whereas I don't know where i'm going, so who am I to disavow them and that opinion in a blanket rejection?


The issue is to allow people to have their opinion which is perfectly valid, it might be minority, but it certainly isn't deviant

[Qadri-Jilani]

It has come to my knowledge that the marwani kharijites are now insulting Huzoor Lala Ji Pir Syed Shah Abdul Haqq Sahib. Disgusting and tells you what a shameless lot these are and how they have nothing to do with the Deen.

Huzoor Lala Ji Sahib (born 1926) is the grandson of the greatest Wali the recent world has known, Pir Syed Mehr Ali Shah Sahib rahmatullahi alayhi. Pir Sahib loved his two grandsons very much and he would refer to them as Lala Ji and chotei lala jee "younger lala jee" (Shah Abdul Haqq Sahib).

Pir Sahib rahmatullahi alayhi arranged the best possible education for his beloved grandsons and they were taught by one of the greatest teachers (mudarris) in the subcontinent of the time: Allama Ghulam Muhammad Ghotawi rahmatullahi alayhi (known as Shaykh-ul-Jamia) and graduated from Jamia Islamia Bahwalpur of which Allama Ghulam Muhammad Ghotawi was chancellor (Grand Mufti/Shaykh-ul-Jamia). Many consider him to be the greatest ustad after Allama Fazl-e-Haqq Khayrabadi and it's pretty much unanimous among Ulama that he was the "Khayrabadi" of his time. To my knowledge there are no direct students of Shaykh-ul-Jamia alive in the world today apart from Hazrat Lala Ji Sahib. You will be hard pressed to find a scholar today that has one person in the chain between their own teacher and Shaykh-ul-Jamia (The late Allama Ata Muhammad Bandyalwi Sahib is in this category) and their are few alive who have the honour to call him their grand teacher. Many Ulama who have two teachers (links) between themselves and Shaykh-ul-Jamia have passed away.

Nearly all the scholars in Pakistan are from his chain of students.

This is from Mehr-e-Munir (regarding the last days of Hazrat Pir Mihr Ali Shah Sahib):

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During this period, people undergoing a state of spiritual intoxication (who are referred to as majzub in Sufi terminology) thronged to Golra in especially large numbers from far-off places to pay their homage to Hazrat (R.A). Their objective was not only to be a witness to the spiritual progress of a Wali of rare eminence, but also to derive benefit and succour in the successful performance of their own respective spiritual journeys. In most cases, these persons would enter Hazrat’s room, kiss the side of his bed as a mark of respect, gaze at him in silence for a while, and then leave. Again in the words of Maulana Rumi:

Translation: "O loved one! A mere look at thee provides an answer to every question (in my mind); every problem is solved without any exchange of words".

Maulana Ghulam Muhammad Ghotavi has written in his reminiscences about a majzub who once met him while he was going to Jamia Islamia at Bahawalpur of which he was the principal. Seeing the Maulana, the majzub suddenly raised his head and addressed him thus: “ Your Pir is only pretending to be ill. The reality is that his shadow has left him, and he has confined himself to his bed in his room in order to conceal this fact form others". The majzub was in a way hinting a fact that Hazrat (R.A) had attained the stage of " Fana-fir-Rasul", (annihilation in the personality of the Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H). According to authentic accounts, one of the Prophet’s (P.B.U.H) miracles was that he had no shadow (i.e., reflected image) despite made of flesh and bone like other human beings.

Pir Syed Shah Abdul Haqq Sahib also studied from many other great Ulama of the age such as Allama Mufti Muhibb-un-Nabi Sahib (teacher of many greats including Shaykh-ul-Qur'an Allama Abdul Ghafoor Hazarwi Sahib).

Pir Syed Lala Ji Sahib is a master of all the uloom, such a mastership that can be rarely matched in the world today. Just because he is often quiet you assume their is nothing inside? That's jahalat...

Koi andaza kar sakta hei us kei zor-e-bazu ka?
Nigah-e-mard-e-momin say badal jaati hein taqdeerein

[hafiz-qadri]

Aslaamualikum

Whilst it's very much appreciated the Golra Shareef Sajada nasheen issuing a Fatwa regarding the Afzaliat,My concern is why it has taken so long for Golra Shareef representives to issue a Fatwa,When the issue of Afzaliat was at it's highest that was the time to issue this Fatwa,I'm sorry to say this but it's 5 years too late.I know some users will think i'm being biased but credit should only be given to one person who has spent approx 10 years of his life day and night and single handly refuting the Mullah Brigade and writing the great book Zubda tu tehkeek which to this day has not been refuted by anyone.In years to come History will only have one persons name on it Syed Abdul Qadar Jilani.At present i'm very Bitter about certain things which I don't want to disclose on this forum and that's why i'm stating some facts of my heart to you.

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