[Brother_MGS]

MashAllah Shaykh Umar gives fantastic references. Scholars of the past such as Mulla Ali Al Qari (ra)'s works have been studied and used part of curriculams taught at traditional Ahle Sunnat Madrassahs. The same scholars that testify that Ameer Mauwiyah advocated the use of insulting words against Moula Kiynaat(AS).

As Brother DS pointed out, Ala Hazrat Fazl-e-Barielly(ra) used AlaiyhiSalaam for the Ahle Bayt. Even in his Salaat o Salaam, the shers where he mentions the Ahle Bayt use AlaiyhiSalaam to.

Moulana Irfan, his students and fellow scholars remind me of Salafis. Salafis dont follow the teachings of the Salaf, just as Moulana Irfan and Co. dont follow the teachings of Ala Hazrat(ra).

Bottom line is Zikr-e-Hussain, Zikr-e-Ahle Bayt will continue forever. No Nasibi, Khawarij can ever take the Mohabbat true Sunnis have for Ahle Bayt (AS). Love for the Ahle Bayt forms a part of our Imaan, the traditional scholars of the Ahle Sunnah advocate their love and the Awliya of Allah(SWT) know that their Imam is Moula Ali(AS) and the status of Wali is too given by the same personality.

[secret-agent]

Omdzzzz.....molvi irfan sahib and co still trying they best to attack 'ahle bait ALAYHISSLAAM one way or another....4 ppl like 'Jamoose Ahle Sunnat Aqeel jalali' and others its understandable,as they would to anything to please they 'like minded' people' as he still requires he's indefinate leave to remain in UK..as for Mashadi sahib....well well 'animosity' against your forefathers? 1st try your best to stop Nara-e-haidry? Then call your fathers (the 12 imams) of ahle sunnat as imams of massalli's....shah ji wth?? You claim in various speech's, NASAB doesn't mean anything...well 10/10 on that one 4 u...I mean all differnces aside.. Have you ever thought what your teaching you Jahil Jalali's?? I can go on and on..but wish and do dua to allah almighty 4 his mercy upon every1...

[qadrimuslim]

Muhammad Umar would wipe the floor with these jahils

Heads hung in shame trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the viewers - PURE INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY

They say they do it to reject and insult the Shia community but they are just plain stupid. Next they will reject the Ahlul Bayt altogether!

[Qadri-Jilani]

A very prominent Sunni Syed scholar recently talked about nasibiyat having entered into the Sunnis and some people got really wound up about it. Well, you have seen the proof in the pudding with these guys, on TV. This is not sunniyat and not the teachings of our elders. If Sunnis throughout the centuries have used alaihi'salam (I can think of about 20 masters of the Ahl us Sunnah straight from my head who have used it) for the Ahl al-Bayt then how on earth can it be an exclusive symbol of the Shia? More like these barelwi-disguised nasbis are saying that the Ahl-ul-Bayt has nothing to do with Sunnis but belong to the Shias.

These people say that if you say Narei Haydari and alaihi'salam it benefits the shia, well then stop reciting and relating those verses of the Qur'an that talk about Musa alaihi'salam because it benefits the Jews. What silly logic.

Challenge to Abid Jalali and Shahzad Qadri: Where did Ala Hazrat say it's forbidden to say alayhi'salam for the Ahl al-Bayt?

[FSA]

Salaam

The opponent Ulema will have to reply to this video.

Btw. The video volume goes silent from 5.12 to 5.27. What was said during this time?

Salaam

[INTOXICATION-BURN]

We are living in a era where, people have stopped acquiring knowledge and started relying more on mere individual opinion/fatwa and thereby misleading innocent muslim ummah who were always been on right path.

The issue of using Alaih Salam with Ahle Bait wasn't present in the past generation as overwhelming Scholars and Imam have already used it but with passing of time certain sect have started manipulating things and showed as if such a thing never existed.

Read more: Here

[qadrimuslim]

Irfan Shah and Jalalis claim to accept Golra Shareef as Sunnis right?

Pir Sayyid Mehr Ali Shah Sahib of GolRa (RA) who is considered the Grand Shaykh of most of Punjab
and his descendants including Shah Abdul Haq Sahib

all believed and taught Ayat-e-Tatheer was revealed ONLY for the Panjtan Paak (AS)

Today when we go to GolRa Shareef for ziyarat, all you see everywhere are the names of Allah and the Panjtan Paak

Challenge to Jalalis to answer this

[piara-madinah]

Desert-Sheikh, on 17 December 2011 - 05:30 PM, said:

Here is uncensored and unedited video:




Please watch it fully and look at the faces of the rest of the panel (jese maan mar gai ho), the self-claimed inheritors of Ala Hazrat at 4:29, who were deceiving audience by falsely claiming that Sunni elders donit allow Alieh Salam for Ahle Bayt. Host looks at them and they are looking down, down and down - Nazar uthane ke qabil nahi.

PS: If they have any shame, they should go back to their villages.

village wapus to nahe jayen gay ub to woh uk kay scholers hain oroon ko layeen gay , presenter bhi zara sust hay or shaed not willing to show there faces to the public so he is trying to wrap up .

please bring the knowledge able panel in live programmes.

[piara-madinah]

Desert-Sheikh, on 13 December 2011 - 05:45 PM, said:

Excellent reply by Dr. Sahib, Barelvis should be proud of him, he always cleans up after some of their 'kharji' mess, BUT they will never listen to him.

Here's another suprise, especaily for that young (a bit fat) guy who starts replying by saying that 'humare akabiren ala hazrat aur saddrul-shariah, (Aur koi akibir to guzra hi nahi hey 1400 saal mein), and all those whose religion starts from Ala hazrat and ends at Saddr-ul-Shariah.

Have you ever read the books of Seydi Ala Hazrat? Well, now read his famous kalam "Mustafa Jaan-e-Rehmat Pe Laakhon Salaam",

Salam on Khatoon-e-Jannat (Radi Allahu anha)
Syeda Zahida Tyaba Tahira
Jaan-E-Ahmad Ki Rahat Pay Lakhoon Salam

Salam on Imam-e-Hassan (Radi Allahu anhu)
Wo Hassan Mujtaba Syed-ul-Askhiya
Rakab-e-Dosh-e-Izat Pay Lakhoon Salam

Salam on Maula Ali (Radi Allahu anhu)
Sher-e-Shamshir-e-Zan Shah Khaybar Shikan
Par To-e-Dast-e-Qudrat Pay Lakhoon Salam

Ala Hazrat even sends Salam on his own teachers and family
Mere Ustad Maan Baap, Bhai Behan
Ahl-e-Wald-o-Ashirat Pay Lakhoon Salam

(Ref: Hadaiq-e-Bakhshish)

Does it ring any bell to you? You all the hate-mongers and especially the Chumma channel’s crew.

main sumjhty hoon kay jumah jumah ath din howey hain abhi is channel ko or sahed in kay alims bhi abhi bachy hain , yeh demand honi cahiyee isi alim say jo yeh kah raha hay kay ahlebait athar kay sath alihissalam nahe kehna cahiyee kion kay akabreen nay nahe kaha , to kiya unhon nay waqai ala hazrat ka kaalm nahe purha ya suna halan kay esa mumkin nahe hay lakin shaed apny ustadoon ki taleem ka aser hay kay woh yeh sabut kerna cahta hay kay sirf nabion or farsihton ko alihissalam kahoo.

[Chishtitiger]

piara-madinah, on 18 December 2011 - 08:40 PM, said:

main sumjhty hoon kay jumah jumah ath din howey hain abhi is channel ko or sahed in kay alims bhi abhi bachy hain , yeh demand honi cahiyee isi alim say jo yeh kah raha hay kay ahlebait athar kay sath alihissalam nahe kehna cahiyee kion kay akabreen nay nahe kaha , to kiya unhon nay waqai ala hazrat ka kaalm nahe purha ya suna halan kay esa mumkin nahe hay lakin shaed apny ustadoon ki taleem ka aser hay kay woh yeh sabut kerna cahta hay kay sirf nabion or farsihton ko alihissalam kahoo.

By the way this 'shaykh umar' makes some serious grammatical mistakes when he reads the Hadith and sanad. I'm curious to where he's studied from and who is his shaykh? Please can some brother inform me jazakallah

Wassalam

[Tahir-Riaz]

Chishtitiger, on 18 December 2011 - 09:57 PM, said:

By the way this 'shaykh umar' makes some serious grammatical mistakes when he reads the Hadith and sanad. I'm curious to where he's studied from and who is his shaykh? Please can some brother inform me jazakallah

At least he was not lying. Some people are experts in attaining the wrong focus.

[piara-madinah]

Chishtitiger, on 18 December 2011 - 09:57 PM, said:

By the way this 'shaykh umar' makes some serious grammatical mistakes when he reads the Hadith and sanad. I'm curious to where he's studied from and who is his shaykh? Please can some brother inform me jazakallah

Wassalam

bhai g uger app ki knowldge kay etbaar he made mistakes then contact the channel why they presenting these sheikhs who dont know anything , I know they have to blame if they wrong but the channel as well .

I hope people will give the information you asked and may be you can search on net about his education and degrees etc etc.

lakin kiya jo us nay answer kiya woh sahi tha ya ghult us per bhi roshni daleen ya jin kay refrence he gave app ko un kay study per bhi shaq hay.

[Chishtitiger]

piara-madinah, on 18 December 2011 - 10:36 PM, said:

bhai g uger app ki knowldge kay etbaar he made mistakes then contact the channel why they presenting these sheikhs who dont know anything , I know they have to blame if they wrong but the channel as well .

I hope people will give the information you asked and may be you can search on net about his education and degrees etc etc.

lakin kiya jo us nay answer kiya woh sahi tha ya ghult us per bhi roshni daleen ya jin kay refrence he gave app ko un kay study per bhi shaq hay.

I'm just saying brother I know that um ah channel is a joke I know the owner he is money orientated and uses these jahil cheap sell out mullas like jalali. Us ne nawab sahi Diya bhai is Mai koi shak nahi . Ye braelvi hazrat samajte hai ke ala hazrat ke siwa koi aur able sun at ke akabir nahi. Tamam kutube tarikh Mai ahlebaite athar alayhimus Salam ke paak asmaa ke bad alayhis Salam likha hota hai kul tarikh ki kutub aut aksar ahadeeth aur tafsir ki kutub Mai to alayhis Salam Kehna akabir aur aimma ahlesunnat ki sun at hai aur talk at hai ye braelvi to bas ala hazrat ke nam par lungar khatey hai.

Laykin shaykh umar ne ibarat aur sanad parhney me kafi Bari ghlatiya ki Mai bhi Ik talibe ilm hoon mistakes happen Laykin tv bar Hadith ki sanad ghalat parhna achieve Ba'ath nahi

[Chishtitiger]

Chishtitiger, on 18 December 2011 - 11:02 PM, said:

I'm just saying brother I know that um ah channel is a joke I know the owner he is money orientated and uses these jahil cheap sell out mullas like jalali. Us ne nawab sahi Diya bhai is Mai koi shak nahi . Ye braelvi hazrat samajte hai ke ala hazrat ke siwa koi aur able sun at ke akabir nahi. Tamam kutube tarikh Mai ahlebaite athar alayhimus Salam ke paak asmaa ke bad alayhis Salam likha hota hai kul tarikh ki kutub aut aksar ahadeeth aur tafsir ki kutub Mai to alayhis Salam Kehna akabir aur aimma ahlesunnat ki sun at hai aur talk at hai ye braelvi to bas ala hazrat ke nam par lungar khatey hai.

Laykin shaykh umar ne ibarat aur sanad parhney me kafi Bari ghlatiya ki Mai bhi Ik talibe ilm hoon mistakes happen Laykin tv bar Hadith ki sanad ghalat parhna achieve Ba'ath nahi

Indeed brother tahir riaz ur correct at least he exposed the jahils on tv. Btw do you know shaykh umar?

[Tahir-Riaz]

Chishtitiger, on 18 December 2011 - 11:04 PM, said:

Indeed brother tahir riaz ur correct at least he exposed the jahils on tv. Btw do you know shaykh umar?

Long gone are the days when affiliations could overshadow my judgments. I don't put anyone or anything above intellectual honesty. To answer your question, no I don't know him in person, though we have discussed issues on YaNabi.com in the past.

I don't agree with everything he does or says but regarding this incident he was spot on and did so quite eloquently. In other words without calling people names or being disrespectful to them.

[Desert-Sheikh]

Desert-Sheikh, on 17 December 2011 - 05:30 PM, said:

Here is uncensored and unedited video:

Syed Muhammad Hashmi Mian's slap right in the face of these Ummah TV Presenters!

Imam Hussein Aleh Salam!!!



Users who don't know the speaker, He is Son of Khalifa-e-Ala-Hazrat Muhadith-e-Azam-e-Hind Syed Kachuchvi Sahib. Also notice the sequence of Naras, the Sunni Muslim of India didnt even call the so-called Nara-e-Tehqiq. UK-people may keep fighting about the 'correct' reply either CharYar or SabYar, but their Na'ra even does not exist in the first place. It never called in Sunni gatherings!