PrioritySunnah, on 26 July 2011 - 11:06 AM, said:
Oh now come on, that is just utter nonsense.
1. I have yet to meet a tablighee who does this
2. I have yet to meet a tablighi who does this.
3. I have yet to meet a tablighi who does this
4. Most groups do this to each other, including barelvis. Infact barelvis go a step further by saying "if you do not belive in their kufr, then you too a kafir"
5. Lots of various groups have various understanding of jihad in the modern context, this is a whole different issue.
Brother I dont want to start a debate with you as the people of this forum will say HanafiUK started this lol. So i will reply once 2u
By you saying what i mentioned is utter nonesense, shows to me your either ignorence or just doing this on purpose to defend the Najdis, as its widely known what there beliefs are!
1) In order for you to understand, you have to go in details, for example, they reject the great qualities of Prophet pbuh and to reject that, its degrading the Prophet pbuh.
They reject the Wasila/Intercession of Prophet pbuh and claim Prophet Pbuh cannot benefit us - Again this is quality of Prophet pbuh that Allah almighty blessed upon them.
They claim Prophet pbuh is just like us, and claim you shouldnt praise Prophet Pbuh too much
They attack our Prophet Pbuh knowledge just like the Munafiqs who used to mock our Prophet Knowledge, - Again this is the high quality of Prophet pbuh which Allah almigthy blessed upon them
etc etc etc
2) They attack Prophet parents pbuh because they claim their were Astaghfirullah non muslims and claim they used to worship idols, but ofcourse they were true muslims as they used to worship Allah almighty, they used to follow Hazrat Ibrahim Alai Salaam Religion.
3) They attack Ahle Bayt because they are followers of Yazeed but we follow Imam Hussain Ra
4) No your are wrong brother, again you either innocently been told wrong info or you doing it on purpose to misguide Yanabi.com members.
You need to read the history and then find out who started this, when Abdul Wahab Najdi declared muslims kafirs and Mushriks and accused them of worshipping graves, and declared Wasila as Shirk, and many other things,
So the najdis started this, and then scholars from Egypt, syria, turkey and Mecca issued fatwas against najdi wahabis and declared them the Satanic group our Prophet pbuh warned us about, and declared this group will cause fitna in muslim ummah. and Mr najdis brother declared his brother to be the horn of devil etc etc
And then this group went to India and started to preach their and declared that muslims in India are committing shirk and need to come back to Islam, so basically they were accused of worshipping other than Allah almighty or associating partners, and were declared mushriks.
and then the sunni scholars and people, some joined them but majority oppossed them and declared fatwas against their fitna and evil corrupt beliefs. as the sunnis said, we do not worship these graves but consider them the best servants of Allah almighty, this is why we come visit them and consider them as wasila as they are friends of Allah almighty.
So basically this is how this brelevi wahabi deobandi fitna started, but to know who started it, you need to find out, which group emerged there from najd and caused fitna.
5) No this is not a whole different issue. This same satanic group has declared jihad against Pakistani muslims and against muslim ummah, and you claiming this is different issue or different opinions.
Blowing up graves/shrines is different issue
Blowing up mosques is different issue
Bombing markets is different issue
Bombing houses is different issue
Kidnapping and raping muslim sisters is different issue
Assasinating sunnis scholars is different issue
Also please research what is happening or already happened in following countries
And find out which groups are doing bombings in markets, in mosques, in shrines, killing innocent muslims. and I can assure you, their traces go back to NAJD
I am saying this because its the truth, and i seriously am, up 2 you to accept it
Jazkhallah and sorri if i offended anyone