[Brother_MGS]

If ive put this thread in the wrong section, could the Mods team move it into the right area please.

Things have become too heated on here. Im sure there are a few people on here who are interested in football.

As we all know the season has finished and all the pre-season transfer speculation has begun.

The joke of last season was £35million for Andy Carrol where if Liverpool had wanted him at the start of the season it wouldve cost them £2million. I also believe Liverpool will never win the Premiership and will always talk about their 18 league titles when topflight football was called Division One.

Arsene Wenger has destroyed Arsenal. To be called the junior Barcelona is in a way an insult. A club should want its own image not live in the shadows of another!. He needs to spend more than a few hundred pound in bringing a youngster, making him into a star and selling him on for profit. His policies are destroying Arsenals quest for silverware.

This is the latest gossip on BBC Sport

TRANSFER GOSSIP

Liverpool may face another battle with Blackpool this week over their valuation of Charlie Adam with the Seasiders looking for £10m for the Scottish international midfielder.
Full story: Daily Mail

Didier Drogba has emerged as a potential pawn in Chelsea's bid to land £30m-rated midfielder Luka Modric from Spurs.
Full story: Daily Mirror

But Spurs manager Harry Redknapp is ready to battle it out with Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger to sign Blackburn defender Chris Samba.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Arsenal are set to face a transfer fight with Paris St Germain for the signatures of Lille ace Gervinho and Saint Etienne midfielder Blaise Matuidi.
Full story: Metro

Manchester City have entered into negotiations to sign €18m-rated Argentine striker Ezequiel Lavezzi, as a possible replacement for fellow countryman, Carlos Tevez.
Full story: footylatest.com

Burnley winger Chris Eagles wants to join Everton this summer after the Toffees failed to lure the former Manchester United star to Goodison Park during the January transfer window.
Full story: talkSport

Inter Milan have emerged as the latest club to eye up a move for Arsenal midfielder Samir Nasri, who has been linked with a shock switch to Manchester United.
Full story: talkSport

[Mudassar-Rana]

Brother_MGS, on 13 June 2011 - 11:13 PM, said:

If ive put this thread in the wrong section, could the Mods team move it into the right area please.

Things have become too heated on here. Im sure there are a few people on here who are interested in football.

As we all know the season has finished and all the pre-season transfer speculation has begun.

The joke of last season was £35million for Andy Carrol where if Liverpool had wanted him at the start of the season it wouldve cost them £2million. I also believe Liverpool will never win the Premiership and will always talk about their 18 league titles when topflight football was called Division One.

Arsene Wenger has destroyed Arsenal. To be called the junior Barcelona is in a way an insult. A club should want its own image not live in the shadows of another!. He needs to spend more than a few hundred pound in bringing a youngster, making him into a star and selling him on for profit. His policies are destroying Arsenals quest for silverware.

This is the latest gossip on BBC Sport

TRANSFER GOSSIP

Liverpool may face another battle with Blackpool this week over their valuation of Charlie Adam with the Seasiders looking for £10m for the Scottish international midfielder.
Full story: Daily Mail

Didier Drogba has emerged as a potential pawn in Chelsea's bid to land £30m-rated midfielder Luka Modric from Spurs.
Full story: Daily Mirror

But Spurs manager Harry Redknapp is ready to battle it out with Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger to sign Blackburn defender Chris Samba.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Arsenal are set to face a transfer fight with Paris St Germain for the signatures of Lille ace Gervinho and Saint Etienne midfielder Blaise Matuidi.
Full story: Metro

Manchester City have entered into negotiations to sign €18m-rated Argentine striker Ezequiel Lavezzi, as a possible replacement for fellow countryman, Carlos Tevez.
Full story: footylatest.com

Burnley winger Chris Eagles wants to join Everton this summer after the Toffees failed to lure the former Manchester United star to Goodison Park during the January transfer window.
Full story: talkSport

Inter Milan have emerged as the latest club to eye up a move for Arsenal midfielder Samir Nasri, who has been linked with a shock switch to Manchester United.
Full story: talkSport

Only time will tell regarding carrol - it may prove to be a bargain or one of the biggest blunders. As a liverpool supporter he isnt the typical liverpool centre forward, and will find it difficult to play the way kenny wants - i.e. pass and move. But if anyone can integrate him it is king kenny!

your thinking is correct when all else fails talk football! I recall that even the germans and brits had time out for a football match during world war 1! General Zia organised a cricket match between india and Pak when tensions heated up! Amazing thing sport.

[Brother_MGS]

Mudassar-Rana, on 13 June 2011 - 11:20 PM, said:

Only time will tell regarding carrol - it may prove to be a bargain or one of the biggest blunders. As a liverpool supporter he isnt the typical liverpool centre forward, and will find it difficult to play the way kenny wants - i.e. pass and move. But if anyone can integrate him it is king kenny!

Saurez looks like a class buy, Rodriquez is coming good. Plus Camoli and co are pursuiing English talent. Thats a good sign just INCASE Liverpool ever do win the league again they can atleast have done it with an English backbone.

Drogba is better than Torres btw. Torres is going to turn out to be the most expensive flop ever!

[FSA]

Salam

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Things have become too heated on here.

The following sure helps calm things down:

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The joke of last season was £35million for Andy Carrol where if Liverpool had wanted him at the start of the season it wouldve cost them £2million. I also believe Liverpool will never win the Premiership and will always talk about their 18 league titles when topflight football was called Division One.

Anyway moving on. Wouldnt it be great if Maradona managing a team in the middle east becomes aware of Islam and .....

We already have Muhammed Ali...

Salam

[Brother_MGS]

State_TV, on 13 June 2011 - 11:23 PM, said:

Salam




The following sure helps calm things down:



Anyway moving on. Wouldnt it be great if Maradona managing a team in the middle east becomes aware of Islam and .....

We already have Muhammed Ali...

Salam

Could we keep Islam out of this thread please, its just going to start another flame up. Thank you!

But yeah Zola and Hughes would make a class management team at Chelsea. Both are blue out and out. PLus with Ray Wilkins back in the set up.

Guus Hiddink can find another loser country willing to pay him top dollar just to get them into continental competitions.

I reckon David Moyes or a passionate young British manager should replace Fergie, Mourinho wouldnt fit into Man United's ethos.

[Mudassar-Rana]

Brother_MGS, on 13 June 2011 - 11:23 PM, said:

Saurez looks like a class buy, Rodriquez is coming good. Plus Camoli and co are pursuiing English talent. Thats a good sign just INCASE Liverpool ever do win the league again they can atleast have done it with an English backbone.

Drogba is better than Torres btw. Torres is going to turn out to be the most expensive flop ever!

In my view dalglish is the best manager - and fergie would not have had the titles he has if dalglish had remained at the helm of liverpool.

Suarez is class - the sale of torres looks good business and i dont see him there fore long. Drogba is good and i dont think chelsea will want to pee him off just to incorporate torres. You never know this time next yr dalglish might get him back for 10 million! Anelka is also a good striker just moody!

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Salam

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Could we keep Islam out of this thread please, its just going to start another flame up. Thank you!

I was only teasing you brother. It was a referance to apost you replied to in the 'muslim footballers thread'.

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The joke of last season was £35million for Andy Carrol where if Liverpool had wanted him at the start of the season it wouldve cost them £2million. I also believe Liverpool will never win the Premiership and will always talk about their 18 league titles when topflight football was called Division One.

I dont know which issue is more polarising (heated), the Munazra topic or the Liverpool/Man Utd rivalry.


Anyway, About Andy Carrol. Liverpool did overpay for him. However, dont forget Spurs had already enquired (or intended to) about him for 25 million I think (I cant remember exactly). Come the summer and it was possible that Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Spurs and possibly others would have gone for Carrol. The bidding war would resulted in a price of maybe between 25-30 million. It is said that Liverpool over paid by about 15 million.

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if Liverpool had wanted him at the start of the season it wouldve cost them £2million

I think it was 1 million. Anyway you could say that about many players.

Also it is said that when Chelsea wanted Torres, Liverpool demanded the cost of a replacement plus 15 million. Newscastle werent gonna sell unless it was a huge fee. Chelsea were mugged and liverpool used the money to buy Carrol with 15 million leftover.

Im excited about Carrol. If it works out we have Englands cntre forward for the next 10 years. He is a potential beast of a player.

Im tempted to think it would have been better to keep the Torres 50 million and wait for the Summer when there wouldnt be a rush to buy and no danger of panic buying. In January Liverpool had to pay big because of the deadline. However, I read that if Liverpool didnt spend that 50 million a huge percentage of it would have gone to the Tax man in April.

Salam

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Salam

About the Torres money 50 million. I went to find the info. I came across this post on a forum:

Also, due to us largely being debt free now the Torres money would be noted on our books as profit and subject to corporation tax, wiping out almost half of it's value at the end of the current financial year in April.


I dont know how true this danger was. Some say Club accountants have ways of getting around this.


Salam

[FSA]

Salam

Btw did you see the penalty kick video that Newsnight finished on the other night? It was shown in slowmotion with the Lenny Kravitz song 'It aint over till its over' playing over it. It was a playoff between 2 Italian lower league teams to decide who is promoted. The game has reached the penalty shootout and the score is 4-4 on penalties.

The penalty taker hits the crossbar. The goalkeeper runs in celebration towards the dugout near the halfway line. I didnt know what the big deal was as I didnt properly listen to the Newsnight presenter. Anyway, as the goalie ran and closer and closer towards the camera, in the background the bouncing ball came into shot.....

Here is a video from youtube: Couldnt find the Newsnight zoomed in version.



Youtube description:

4th penalty of the p.k shootout between Termeno and Dro. Whichever team wins the game moves officially to Eccellenza, the 6th category of Italian football. Palma (the Termeno player) looks desperate after 'missing' while the Dro gk, Angeli is already in party mode. Ball goes in, p.k converted successfully according to ref, next penalty up, Dro player misses, Termeno is now promoted.

PS: Just come across Daily Mail piece saying the authorities called for a replay of the game.


Salam

[Brother_MGS]

Today's latest Gossip

Cristiano Ronaldo, 26, has dismissed talk of a £150m move from Real Madrid to Manchester City - and a reported £400,000-a-week salary.
Full story: the Sun

Barcelona will make a big push to sign Cesc Fabregas while the Arsenal midfielder is on holiday in the city this week. The Catalan side value the 24-year-old at £35m and are ready to offer the Gunners their choice of players in return.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Liverpool may face another battle with Blackpool this week over their valuation of Charlie Adam, 25, with the Seasiders looking for £10m for the Scottish international midfielder.
Full story: Daily Mail

Manchester City have opened talks with Udinese over a £27m deal for 22-year-old Chilean winger Alexis Sanchez.
Full story: Daily Mail

Centre-back Younes Kaboul, 25, wants to quit Tottenham and join Marseille in an £8.5m deal.
Full story: the Sun

Chelsea are ready to offer Modric £130,000-a-week to defect to Stamford Bridge.
Full story: the Sun

But Spurs manager Harry Redknapp is ready to battle it out with Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger to sign Blackburn defender Chris Samba, 27.
Full story: Daily Mirror

The Gunners are heading the chase for £3.5m-rated left-back Alexander Milosevic, 19, who plays for Swedish side AIK Solna.
Full story: the Sun


The Italian club is also looking into signing 28-year-old midfielder Michael Essien from Chelsea, with Wesley Sneijder, 27, moving in the opposite direction.
Full story: Footybunker.com

Real Madrid midfielder Mesut Ozil, 22, insists he has no intention of joining Manchester United after his agent revealed Red Devils boss Sir Alex Ferguson had made an enquiry.
Full story: Metro

Sunderland have offered £5m for Birmingham's 24-year-old midfielder Craig Gardner.
Full story: Daily Mail

The Black Cats are also keen on Paris St Germain striker Mevlut Erding. Newcastle are also interested in the 24-year-old Turkish forward, who is valued at £9m.
Full story: the Sun

Blackpool midfielder David Vaughan, 28, is eyeing a Premier League return with Sunderland after rejecting a new contract offer, believed to be in the region of £10,000-a-week.
Fully story: Daily Express

Ipswich striker Connor Wickham, 18, will snub Sunderland in the hope of landing a move to Liverpool.
Full story: the Sun

Leeds winger Elliot Kebbie, 16, has joined European champions Barcelona on trial in the hope of securing a permanent switch to the Catalan side.
Full story: the Sun

[Brother_MGS]

Manchester City will ruin football if they go on a mad spree to attract C.Ronaldo!!!!

If Chelsea get rid of Essien, I will burn my chelsea shirt and stamp on it a million times!

I hope the trial for the Leeds winger works out at Barca. I mean English football has been producing youngsters of a high calibre recently.

Capello should get sacked from the England job, Harry Redknapp as the next man in.

[Imran.]

I'm waiting for some real interesting news,like:

"Man U sign Elvis"

[Brother_MGS]

Imran., on 14 June 2011 - 10:34 AM, said:

I'm waiting for some real interesting news,like:

"Man U sign Elvis"

I think Ian Rush should come out of retirement for Liverpool, maybe he will win them the league at the old age of 50.

Man United are looking to give the Singhs that sit behind Fergie every game, a trial. I heard one of them is better than Messi and the other one due to his size is better than Peter Schmeichal was between the sticks.

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Salam

Ruud Gullit sacked as Terek Grozny manager.

http://news.bbc.co.u...ll/13769663.stm

Oh man thats a blow to the hope that a famous non muslim football personality working in a muslim region might......

...forget it, nevermind.

Salam

[Brother_MGS]

Ruud Gullit can never replicate his sucess he had on the football pitch. If i owned Chelsea, Id have Mark Hughes and Zola on the management side of things, Wilkins and Gullit coaching.

[Brother_MGS]

Today's transfer speculation.

Mureed X has left Dawat-e-Islami and joined Sunni Dawat-e-Islami for an undisclosed fee. Mashadi United have decided to give Abid Jalali new position of chief Mascot, switching him from centre back.

Anyways,

Manchester United are ready to seal a £27m deal for Udinese's Chile midfielder Alexis Sanchez - under the noses of Manchester City and Barcelona.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Arsenal have made an approach for Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Willian, with a deal for the 23-year-old including a payment of £12m and Gunners midfielder Denilson in part-exchange.
Full story: talkSPORT

Manchester City and Chelsea will submit bids for David Villa if Barcelona choose to cash in on the Spanish international forward in order to fund a move for Arsenal midfielder Cesc Fabregas.
Full story: Metro

Meanwhile, Fabregas is desperate to quit Arsenal - according to Gunners team-mate Bacary Sagna.
Full story: the Sun

However, with four years remaining on the 24-year-old's contract, the Gunners have told Fabregas they will repeat last year's efforts and do their best to prevent a sale to Barcelona.
Full story: Daily Star

Chelsea have been told they will have to fork out at least £44m for Palermo's attacking midfielder Javier Pastore. The 21-year-old Argentine, who joined the Italian Serie A club two years ago for £5m, is also wanted by Real Madrid and Barcelona.
Full story: the Sun

Tottenham are close to concluding a £12m contract for Internacional's 21-year-old forward Leandro Damiao.
Full story: Daily Mail

Sunderland and Everton will step up their attempts to sign striker Demba Ba after he activated a clause in his contract allowing him to leave West Ham on a free transfer.
Full story: Metro

Argentina striker Sergio Aguero, 23, is set to deliver a snub to Chelsea and Manchester City by signing for Juventus for about £40m from Atletico Madrid.
Full story: talkSPORT

Sunderland have sent an e-mail out to top clubs telling them that Ghanaian striker Asamoah Gyan is available for transfer.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Manchester United defender Wes Brown is keen on staying in the North West and might reject a switch to Sunderland, which would put Blackburn and Bolton on red alert.
Full story: Daily Mail

[Khalid_the_Warrior]

Brother_MGS, on 13 June 2011 - 11:23 PM, said:

Saurez looks like a class buy, Rodriquez is coming good. Plus Camoli and co are pursuiing English talent. Thats a good sign just INCASE Liverpool ever do win the league again they can atleast have done it with an English backbone.

Drogba is better than Torres btw. Torres is going to turn out to be the most expensive flop ever!

Well jury is out on Carrol but Saurez does look a good player.Well Torres has proved before that he's a world class striker so I won't predict him being flop. Its too early, but he's too expensive though.

There's no match for Drogba in the prem, he's on his own at the momoent.

As far as aresenal are concerned, well how long the gooners goona wait for the trophy. the wait goes onnnnnnn. The change on manager may be?

[Brother_MGS]

Khalid_the_Warrior, on 15 June 2011 - 12:42 PM, said:

Well jury is out on Carrol but Saurez does look a good player.Well Torres has proved before that he's a world class striker so I won't predict him being flop. Its too early, but he's too expensive though.

There's no match for Drogba in the prem, he's on his own at the momoent.

As far as aresenal are concerned, well how long the gooners goona wait for the trophy. the wait goes onnnnnnn. The change on manager may be?

I dont think they need to change manager. I think Wenger is more than capable of tactically mastering championship glory. But the thing is his mentality and his approach has to change. Arsenal need to learn how to win ugly, you can't win beautiful game in game out. He needs to bring 4/5 established names. To survive in the premiership you need to spend 15mill max. To go for silverware, with the amount of money Chelsea and Man City have at their disposal you have to spend big!.

Wenger is currently just moulding future stars and selling them for a profit. Bringing in a cheap next to nothing youngster and selling him on for a huge profit. That has damaged Arsenal because theyve become a footballing Academy.

If Drogba and Anelka leave Chelsea, that exposes serious weaknesses upfront. Even though I believe Kalou is underated. I think if we played down the middle more he would be a world class prospect.

[Khalid_the_Warrior]

Brother_MGS, on 14 June 2011 - 10:32 AM, said:

Manchester City will ruin football if they go on a mad spree to attract C.Ronaldo!!!!

If Chelsea get rid of Essien, I will burn my chelsea shirt and stamp on it a million times!

Yes you can burn your shirt but what has essien done in the last two years. After his knee iniury, he hasn't been able to re-discover his form. he was known for his pace and power but sadly he has lost both.

Snijer for Essien, all day long

[Brother_MGS]

Khalid_the_Warrior, on 15 June 2011 - 01:39 PM, said:

Yes you can burn your shirt but what has essien done in the last two years. After his knee iniury, he hasn't been able to re-discover his form. he was known for his pace and power but sadly he has lost both.

Snijer for Essien, all day long

I hope Chelsea sell Terry and Lampard to. I hate Lampard with a passion, hes an overated pile of junk. We need players with flair again like Robben. Malouda has turned into a fine player for us.

I dont want Sneijder, how much do you think Iniesta would cost?