[Fekay]

The Dajjalic system and its symbolism related to present times.

[Fekay]

You can follow the rest parts on youtube.





Another speech below.

[Fekay]

The below link shows a picture of american dollar, the two yellows arrows pointing to the 'arrows' in one hand, and 'flowers' in the other. These definitely hold a symbolic meaning!

http://www.123muslim.com/attachments/discussion-room/231d1215537670-dajjal-dajjal.jpg

[Fekay]

A very dodgy and twisted advert which holds a symbolic meaning to that of Dajjal.

[Fekay]

The 'Kfir Brigade' also known as the 900th Brigade, is one of the most 'recent Infantry Corps brigade in the Israel Defense' .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kfir_Brigade

[SikandarB]

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FeKay (13.02.2011)

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The below link shows a picture of american dollar, the two yellows arrows pointing to the 'arrows' in one hand, and 'flowers' in the other. These definitely hold a symbolic meaning!

http://www.123muslim.com/attachments/discussion-room/231d1215537670-dajjal-dajjal.jpg

I would have taken you guys seriously unless it wasn’t for this crappie symbolism thingumbob and your obsession to link absolutely everything with your faltering notions and hence making it almost comical.

I am not sure what it achieves though, could only result in paranoia and a new found fascination to search for this delusive symbolism in everything around you – only adding to the cacophony around us.

Such notions are of course not exclusive to the Muslim populace.

Cheers!

[Imran.]

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FeKay (13.02.2011)

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The below link shows a picture of american dollar, the two yellows arrows pointing to the 'arrows' in one hand, and 'flowers' in the other. These definitely hold a symbolic meaning!

http://www.123muslim.com/attachments/discussion-room/231d1215537670-dajjal-dajjal.jpg

I would have taken you guys seriously unless it wasn’t for this crappie symbolism thingumbob and your obsession to link absolutely everything with your faltering notions and hence making it almost comical.

I am not sure what it achieves though, could only result in paranoia and a new found fascination to search for this delusive symbolism in everything around you – only adding to the cacophony around us.

Such notions are of course not exclusive to the Muslim populace.

Cheers!

I agree with sikander,the videos of the shaykh Hamza Yusuf are a very good source of info on the subject and can serve as an ample eyeopener,but the other non scholarly vids really do put a damper on the whole thing,and maybe should be avoided in order to gain maximum attention towards what the shaikh is saying.

[Know-the-Ledge]

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FeKay (13.02.2011)

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The below link shows a picture of american dollar, the two yellows arrows pointing to the 'arrows' in one hand, and 'flowers' in the other. These definitely hold a symbolic meaning!

http://www.123muslim.com/attachments/discussion-room/231d1215537670-dajjal-dajjal.jpg

I would have taken you guys seriously unless it wasn’t for this crappie symbolism thingumbob and your obsession to link absolutely everything with your faltering notions and hence making it almost comical.

I am not sure what it achieves though, could only result in paranoia and a new found fascination to search for this delusive symbolism in everything around you – only adding to the cacophony around us.

Such notions are of course not exclusive to the Muslim populace.

Cheers!

"Signs and symbols rule the world, not words and laws"
-Confucius



Allah has left signs in dunya of his existence, he constantly implores us to recognise them; the shaitaan desires worship and mimics Allah in his methods, thus has left his own signs in dunya, it is a ritual worship of their master Lucifer, to leave signs and symbols of their affection for him, in all the the mechanisms that are being used by this esoteric Chruch of Shaitaan, which keep people drawn in towards their ethoses, such as materiaism and sentient pleasures. Money, music, alcohol etc

[Know-the-Ledge]

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Imran. (13.02.2011)

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I agree with sikander,the videos of the shaykh Hamza Yusuf are a very good source of info on the subject and can serve as an ample eyeopener,but the other non scholarly vids really do put a damper on the whole thing,and maybe should be avoided in order to gain maximum attention towards what the shaikh is saying.

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Shaykh Hamza himself uses a dollar bill as a prop to expound on certain points he is making. I think the 'non-scholarly' (they are scholars in their own fields, it's not only muslims that are scholars), are a very good augment to the Shaykhs lecture.

[Imran.]

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I agree with sikander,the videos of the shaykh Hamza Yusuf are a very good source of info on the subject and can serve as an ample eyeopener,but the other non scholarly vids really do put a damper on the whole thing,and maybe should be avoided in order to gain maximum attention towards what the shaikh is saying.

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Shaykh Hamza himself uses a dollar bill as a prop to expound on certain points he is making. I think the 'non-scholarly' (they are scholars in their own fields, it's not only muslims that are scholars), are a very good augment to the Shaykhs lecture.

The Shaikh using props is one thing,however homemade youtube videos by public members based on mere imagination or assumption is quite another.

An islamic scholar can compliment his ideas/thoughts with Quran/sunnah or other islamic references,this is the crux of it.

Blind leading the blind.

[Fekay]

Bro Imran and bro sikandar, the dollar bill is the most obvious symbolism used to explain some points on the subject of the dajjalic system.

The video advert was just a refresher to get the blood flowing :D

[Malaaikah]

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FeKay (13.02.2011)

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Bro Imran and bro sikandar, the dollar bill is the most obvious symbolism used to explain some points on the subject of the dajjalic system.

The video advert was just a refresher to get the blood flowing :D

The advert is freakyyyyy man.

[SikandarB]

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Know the Ledge (13.02.2011)

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Allah has left signs in dunya of his existence, he constantly implores us to recognise them; the shaitaan desires worship and mimics Allah in his methods, thus has left his own signs in dunya, it is a ritual worship of their master Lucifer, to leave signs and symbols of their affection for him, in all the the mechanisms that are being used by this esoteric Chruch of Shaitaan, which keep people drawn in towards their ethoses, such as materiaism and sentient pleasures. Money, music, alcohol etc

Well this does come as a surprise.

Besides this, I am muddled at your juxtaposing – whither? Allah has not left signs; the universe per se and everything embodied in it is a creation of Allah Ta’ala and hence everything you see is a manifestation of His existence. I am at a complete loss here as to how you square these signs with the symbolism on say a dollar bill supposedly put there by a secret mob boss and the conclusions therein.

So people who worship Satan have left a sign on the dollar bill as token of their affection for him, and for us to get crazy over? Is that what  you're saying?

@FeKay: the dollar symbolism is crap! And well, the video advert; I’ll laugh at it we can still be friends.

Sikandar!

[Fekay]

Sikandar, elaborate on what is crap? I am not selling you something that you perceive it as crap!

So people who worship Satan have left a sign on the dollar bill as token of their affection for him, and for us to get crazy over? Is that what  you're saying?

Why don't you simplify abit more! Call it  "Satan leaving his mark on the dollar bill" ! The only one going crazy over all this is you! There is a difference between curiosity + awareness to that of totally rejecting something at the top of your head, which can clearly be seen from your style of writing!

The 'dollar bill' is used by Sheikh Hamza to explain some of his points!

[seeker]

I think all of you need to see this:

[Fekay]

Bro seeker, the guy has a nice comical way of getting his point across, and altho his point is a critical one, it holds no value when it come to the arrivals!

The arrivals is a great series highlighting the bigger picture. Altho they do use various methods of amusements in order to urge the viewer to continue watching. That's obviously because it's a 50 part series.

The main points it highlights is . . .

- The positive and negative energy released with regards to negative symbolism, affecting the behaviour of society in accordance.
- The mind polluting music industry and it's lyrics ect... explained.
- Television/media and the effects it has on the minds of children.
- The arrival of Jesus (PBUH), his story, and the similar grounds all monistic religions hold.
- The arrival of Imam Mehdi (RA).
- Propagandas spread by the media and why.

The basis on which this guys discredits the arrivals are just a few extracts of movie scenes to keep the viewer amused and give a better understanding.

What part of this is a conspiracy? It astounds me to how people would go to lenghts inorder to disprove something to gain a bit of popularity, PATHETIC!

Regarding the first point, their was actually an experiement done with regards to symbolism and it's mind controlling effect! It was on channel 4, with darren brown, called "Perception without awareness". And the results were actually mind boggling to how you can control emotions and behaviour with just symbols!

[The-Mughal-Sister]

Brother Fekay I think the message is lost when you have to, at lengths, explains the nature of the message and the reasoning. Some people love to live in the land of the blissful ignorance and love to believe what they see, when in actual fact their just a tiny pawn in this land of nothing.

To delve and to understand the bigger picture, one must possess an open mind and an intellectual mind at that, if not their tiny minds will fail to understand and malfunction at word go and they will resort to childish tactics like the put together a you tube video as posted by the seeker.

People who watch and consider the NWO, the Dajaal and the signs around us, have truly opened their eyes, it’s the ones in denial that I worry about, but for some it’s hopeless trying to explain to them humpty dumpty let alone the meaning of the NWO!

[Know-the-Ledge]

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Imran. (13.02.2011)

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The Shaikh using props is one thing,however homemade youtube videos by public members based on mere imagination or assumption is quite another.

An islamic scholar can compliment his ideas/thoughts with Quran/sunnah or other islamic references,this is the crux of it.

Blind leading the blind.

Islamic references might be the beginning, but they are not always the end. Martin Luteher King never complimented his thoughts with Islamic references, but he caused a positive revolution nonetheless, doused in noble turbulence.

I find it condescending the way muslims act, that they're the only ones privy to all the truths and afford nada value to any one elses research and theorising, no matter how outlandsih it may seem, bluntly rejecting it because it impinges on your religious sensibilities is coarse. 

It's that 'top-down' authoratarian posturing again, prescribing limitations on people because they're considered too blind and dense to pull information together to arrive at refined conclusions.

I have learnt incredible lessons of wisdom and understanding from 'member of the public', my own father rarely uses Islamic references, shall I negate them? For their blindness, as they lack a certificate of Ijaazah?

I am rounded and spread-minded, because I lend everyone my ear and not just stick to a box of Islamic cosmetics, with green lipstick, green foundation, all green everything.

Stressing importance on Quran and Sunnah is imperative, but diversification of learning is what drives true understanding of these references.

[Imran.]

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Know the Ledge (14.02.2011)

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Islamic references might be the beginning, but they are not always the end. Martin Luteher King never complimented his thoughts with Islamic references, but he caused a positive revolution nonetheless, doused in noble turbulence.

I find it condescending the way muslims act, that they're the only ones privy to all the truths and afford nada value to any one elses research and theorising, no matter how outlandsih it may seem, bluntly rejecting it because it impinges on your religious sensibilities is coarse. 

It's that 'top-down' authoratarian posturing again, prescribing limitations on people because they're considered too blind and dense to pull information together to arrive at refined conclusions.

I have learnt incredible lessons of wisdom and understanding from 'member of the public', my own father rarely uses Islamic references, shall I negate them? For their blindness, as they lack a certificate of Ijaazah?

I am rounded and spread-minded, because I lend everyone my ear and not just stick to a box of Islamic cosmetics, with green lipstick, green foundation, all green everything.

Stressing importance on Quran and Sunnah is imperative, but diversification of learning is what drives true understanding of these references.

Let me make it very  simple for you "the Dajjal of the muslim belief is different to that of the (contemporary) christian dajjal and jewish dajjal",hence the need to rely on islamic sources, not so much the oriental ones(because its a delicate subject).

Hopefully you will understand(although i doubt it).

[Know-the-Ledge]

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Imran. (14.02.2011)

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Let me make it very  simple for you "the Dajjal of the muslim belief is different to that of the (contemporary) christian dajjal and jewish dajjal",hence the need to rely on islamic sources, not so much the oriental ones(because its a delicate subject).

Hopefully you will understand(although i doubt it).

Clearly, you didn't understand that the title of this thread, is 'Dajjal-system'  and not 'The Dajjal'.

David Icke, i's say has done more research on the system, than Sheikh Hamza; just that they don't connect the dots back to Prophecy.