Mashallah gd to see sisters like you are working hard for the kids in the masjid. I teach aswell in the masjid and your correct parents are the problem. You complain to the parent that your kid is messing about they say bacha hey. At times i get so dishearted that i feel like quitting but then i say no. If today hasnt been gd tomorrow it will be a better day.
Parents of children in my Masjid class
Posted 03 December 2010 - 08:27 PM (#21)
DUSTOOR TERA USWAEY SHABEER NAHEE HEY AIEEN TERA TAKHREEB HEY TA'MEER NAHEE HEY. HAMPEY THOO LAGATA HEY KUFAR KAY FATWEY YE ISLAM TEREY BAAP KEE JAGEER NAHEE HEY.
Posted 03 December 2010 - 08:40 PM (#22)
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WAQTSMY (03.12.2010)
Mashallah gd to see sisters like you are working hard for the kids in the masjid. I teach aswell in the masjid and your correct parents are the problem. You complain to the parent that your kid is messing about they say bacha hey. At times i get so dishearted that i feel like quitting but then i say no. If today hasnt been gd tomorrow it will be a better day.
Mashallah gd to see sisters like you are working hard for the kids in the masjid. I teach aswell in the masjid and your correct parents are the problem. You complain to the parent that your kid is messing about they say bacha hey. At times i get so dishearted that i feel like quitting but then i say no. If today hasnt been gd tomorrow it will be a better day.
Same here! The only thing that keeps me going is knowing that teaching Qur'an is sadaqa jaariya! And also the hadith "The best of you are those that learn the Qur'an and teach it"
Just keep us in your du'as as we will for you insha'Allah! I mean what else can we do?
Their eyes sleepless, their faces pale, Lovers constantly sigh in grief.
What has become of these faces that once beamed with youth and vivacity?
Love is like musk that cannot stay hidden: its fragrance cannot but reveal its presence.
Only those who abide in realms beyond space deserves to be called 'faqir', O Bahu
What has become of these faces that once beamed with youth and vivacity?
Love is like musk that cannot stay hidden: its fragrance cannot but reveal its presence.
Only those who abide in realms beyond space deserves to be called 'faqir', O Bahu
Posted 04 December 2010 - 02:18 AM (#23)
salam how about smacking the parents every time the kids do something wrong. for sure the parents will take time out and share the responsibility in teaching their kids and thus the kids behavior will improves. :D
its an option
its an option
ATTARI FOR LIFE
Posted 04 December 2010 - 01:56 PM (#24)
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faizaneattar26 (04.12.2010)
salam how about smacking the parents every time the kids do something wrong. for sure the parents will take time out and share the responsibility in teaching their kids and thus the kids behavior will improves. :D
its an option
salam how about smacking the parents every time the kids do something wrong. for sure the parents will take time out and share the responsibility in teaching their kids and thus the kids behavior will improves. :D
its an option
Walaikum salaam wa rahmathulah!
Errr any other ideas? :unsure:
Their eyes sleepless, their faces pale, Lovers constantly sigh in grief.
What has become of these faces that once beamed with youth and vivacity?
Love is like musk that cannot stay hidden: its fragrance cannot but reveal its presence.
Only those who abide in realms beyond space deserves to be called 'faqir', O Bahu
What has become of these faces that once beamed with youth and vivacity?
Love is like musk that cannot stay hidden: its fragrance cannot but reveal its presence.
Only those who abide in realms beyond space deserves to be called 'faqir', O Bahu
Posted 04 December 2010 - 07:43 PM (#25)
AA
I would manage my own expectations. That would be easier by re caliberating what you want to achieve as a whole, then what you can achieve realistically with each child and then what the parents can do to help.
Next, Do a business plan and fill it out, using targets and timeframes, as well as methodology. In other words fill out the gaps of the plan. (Doing a business plan doesn't mean it's a business!)
Only give the parents duties that can be undertaken. For example, don't ask them to do something that they have no idea about (tajweed for example) or give them tasks according to their capacity (some people don't care, some people want to palm their kids off for a while while they watch Eastenders, some don't know what they want, some are lazy, some aren't equipped to carry out what they are asked, some are too busy). To manage expectations, ask the parents pertinent questions to find out whats going on. Then you can give them tasks accordingly. (DON'T ASSUME ANYTHING)
According to this information you gather, re assess targets, timeframes, duties, methods etc
Regarding trying to explain to parents about your methods, I'd say little to those who don't understand until you are asked. Then make your reason's compelling and easy to understand according to the parents level. If they are just pendoos then offer them some laddoos and ask them what they expect you do deliver and just relay it back to them without intricate details (without lying). The more advanced parents should be shown a presentation about why and how you can help their kids (make it comprehensive and with strong arguments...."why you in other words")
About your methods, according to research, people will use their experiences later on in life according to how they felt about something. They will call upon these feelings. Thus if you create something positive in the hearts of these kids then the effects according to research are huge. They will not only know how to read the Qur'an but will always feel inspired by it. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE UMMAH NEEDS.
An example is reward for achievement as a child. A child who is trained in this way will automatically identify a good feeling with certain aspects of his life because he would have been rewarded for doing a particular thing at the end of it. That feeling will stay for life every time that thing is presented to him.
Lastly, do not use one technique to teach. Teach according to feelings (inspire), by lecturing/speech (audio), by showing (visual aids). Some kids will begin to process information quicker due to this as they may respond better to one type of communication method.
WS
I would manage my own expectations. That would be easier by re caliberating what you want to achieve as a whole, then what you can achieve realistically with each child and then what the parents can do to help.
Next, Do a business plan and fill it out, using targets and timeframes, as well as methodology. In other words fill out the gaps of the plan. (Doing a business plan doesn't mean it's a business!)
Only give the parents duties that can be undertaken. For example, don't ask them to do something that they have no idea about (tajweed for example) or give them tasks according to their capacity (some people don't care, some people want to palm their kids off for a while while they watch Eastenders, some don't know what they want, some are lazy, some aren't equipped to carry out what they are asked, some are too busy). To manage expectations, ask the parents pertinent questions to find out whats going on. Then you can give them tasks accordingly. (DON'T ASSUME ANYTHING)
According to this information you gather, re assess targets, timeframes, duties, methods etc
Regarding trying to explain to parents about your methods, I'd say little to those who don't understand until you are asked. Then make your reason's compelling and easy to understand according to the parents level. If they are just pendoos then offer them some laddoos and ask them what they expect you do deliver and just relay it back to them without intricate details (without lying). The more advanced parents should be shown a presentation about why and how you can help their kids (make it comprehensive and with strong arguments...."why you in other words")
About your methods, according to research, people will use their experiences later on in life according to how they felt about something. They will call upon these feelings. Thus if you create something positive in the hearts of these kids then the effects according to research are huge. They will not only know how to read the Qur'an but will always feel inspired by it. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE UMMAH NEEDS.
An example is reward for achievement as a child. A child who is trained in this way will automatically identify a good feeling with certain aspects of his life because he would have been rewarded for doing a particular thing at the end of it. That feeling will stay for life every time that thing is presented to him.
Lastly, do not use one technique to teach. Teach according to feelings (inspire), by lecturing/speech (audio), by showing (visual aids). Some kids will begin to process information quicker due to this as they may respond better to one type of communication method.
WS
We are all advertising something. Being conscious of this at all times in front of others is a powerful tool for da'wa. To make a person realise that his good feelings towards you are a result of your belief is the most powerful platform in changing the hearts.
Posted 05 December 2010 - 10:21 PM (#26)
Walaikum salaam wa rahmathulah!
JazakAllah khair Shaykh Junaid!
Your advice is great!
"An example is reward for achievement as a child. A child who is trained in this way will automatically identify a good feeling with certain aspects of his life because he would have been rewarded for doing a particular thing at the end of it. That feeling will stay for life every time that thing is presented to him.
Lastly, do not use one technique to teach. Teach according to feelings (inspire), by lecturing/speech (audio), by showing (visual aids)."
I already use different techniques and do give rewards alhamdulillah (it has had a positive affect on the children who all want to become "star of the week")
Insha'Allah we'll be having another "event" in the Christmas holidays
" If they are just pendoos then offer them some laddoos and ask them what they expect you do deliver and just relay it back to them without intricate details (without lying). The more advanced parents should be shown a presentation about why and how you can help their kids (make it comprehensive and with strong arguments"
lol brother we always give out mitai at the end...I do agree though. I shall try this in the next event insha'Allah!
Will insha'Allah let you know how I get on :unsure:
JazakAllah khair Shaykh Junaid!
Your advice is great!
"An example is reward for achievement as a child. A child who is trained in this way will automatically identify a good feeling with certain aspects of his life because he would have been rewarded for doing a particular thing at the end of it. That feeling will stay for life every time that thing is presented to him.
Lastly, do not use one technique to teach. Teach according to feelings (inspire), by lecturing/speech (audio), by showing (visual aids)."
I already use different techniques and do give rewards alhamdulillah (it has had a positive affect on the children who all want to become "star of the week")
Insha'Allah we'll be having another "event" in the Christmas holidays
" If they are just pendoos then offer them some laddoos and ask them what they expect you do deliver and just relay it back to them without intricate details (without lying). The more advanced parents should be shown a presentation about why and how you can help their kids (make it comprehensive and with strong arguments"
lol brother we always give out mitai at the end...I do agree though. I shall try this in the next event insha'Allah!
Will insha'Allah let you know how I get on :unsure:
Their eyes sleepless, their faces pale, Lovers constantly sigh in grief.
What has become of these faces that once beamed with youth and vivacity?
Love is like musk that cannot stay hidden: its fragrance cannot but reveal its presence.
Only those who abide in realms beyond space deserves to be called 'faqir', O Bahu
What has become of these faces that once beamed with youth and vivacity?
Love is like musk that cannot stay hidden: its fragrance cannot but reveal its presence.
Only those who abide in realms beyond space deserves to be called 'faqir', O Bahu
Posted 12 December 2010 - 12:03 AM (#27)
I pray that things will change for the better Inshallah. Ghandi once said "you must be the change you wish to see in the world" from what i have read you seem to be fighting to see this change, dont stop and dont give up. Just remember Allah said in surah Nasr:
1.Itha ja'a nasrullahi wal fath - When the help of Allah does come
2. Wa ra aythan nasa yadhkhuluna fii diin Illahi afwaaja - And see people entering islam in troops.
3. Fasabih bi hamdi rabika wasthaghfir - Then ask your Lord for forgiveness and repent.
4. inna huukana thawaaba - For He is ever relenting most kind.
1.Itha ja'a nasrullahi wal fath - When the help of Allah does come
2. Wa ra aythan nasa yadhkhuluna fii diin Illahi afwaaja - And see people entering islam in troops.
3. Fasabih bi hamdi rabika wasthaghfir - Then ask your Lord for forgiveness and repent.
4. inna huukana thawaaba - For He is ever relenting most kind.
Prophet Muhammad (saw) (pbuh) "Do not acquire knowledge to compete with the scholars,nor argue with the ignorant, nor to gain mastery over gatherings. Since whoever does that,then:the fire!the fire!"
Posted 15 December 2010 - 11:23 PM (#28)
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Sufian_A (12.12.2010)
I pray that things will change for the better Inshallah. Ghandi once said "you must be the change you wish to see in the world" from what i have read you seem to be fighting to see this change, dont stop and dont give up. Just remember Allah said in surah Nasr:
1.Itha ja'a nasrullahi wal fath - When the help of Allah does come
2. Wa ra aythan nasa yadhkhuluna fii diin Illahi afwaaja - And see people entering islam in troops.
3. Fasabih bi hamdi rabika wasthaghfir - Then ask your Lord for forgiveness and repent.
4. inna huukana thawaaba - For He is ever relenting most kind.
I pray that things will change for the better Inshallah. Ghandi once said "you must be the change you wish to see in the world" from what i have read you seem to be fighting to see this change, dont stop and dont give up. Just remember Allah said in surah Nasr:
1.Itha ja'a nasrullahi wal fath - When the help of Allah does come
2. Wa ra aythan nasa yadhkhuluna fii diin Illahi afwaaja - And see people entering islam in troops.
3. Fasabih bi hamdi rabika wasthaghfir - Then ask your Lord for forgiveness and repent.
4. inna huukana thawaaba - For He is ever relenting most kind.
JazakAllah khair brother. Insha'Allah will continue being patient...maybe one day my words might influence the parents insha'Allah.
Keep us in your du'as though as we will for you insha'Allah (We have another event coming up insha'Allah in two weeks *if it doesn't snow* and will be speaking to the parents again so do keep us in your du'as)
Their eyes sleepless, their faces pale, Lovers constantly sigh in grief.
What has become of these faces that once beamed with youth and vivacity?
Love is like musk that cannot stay hidden: its fragrance cannot but reveal its presence.
Only those who abide in realms beyond space deserves to be called 'faqir', O Bahu
What has become of these faces that once beamed with youth and vivacity?
Love is like musk that cannot stay hidden: its fragrance cannot but reveal its presence.
Only those who abide in realms beyond space deserves to be called 'faqir', O Bahu
Posted 24 January 2011 - 08:30 PM (#30)
Awh JazakAllah khair for your kind words. Keep us and the children and their parents in your du'as insha'Allah
Their eyes sleepless, their faces pale, Lovers constantly sigh in grief.
What has become of these faces that once beamed with youth and vivacity?
Love is like musk that cannot stay hidden: its fragrance cannot but reveal its presence.
Only those who abide in realms beyond space deserves to be called 'faqir', O Bahu
What has become of these faces that once beamed with youth and vivacity?
Love is like musk that cannot stay hidden: its fragrance cannot but reveal its presence.
Only those who abide in realms beyond space deserves to be called 'faqir', O Bahu


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