[sahebju]

assalamualikum

dear all

I came to know that Al-Mukhtar Al-Thaqafi, was theperson who took revenge for shahadate hussain.

can you plz explain ahlasunnah status on Al-Mukhtar Al-Thaqafi

be in brief

plz help
bcoz shia's hail him
but not sunnis

if he has taken revenge y the sunnis not

with salams
sahebju

[Zarb-e-Ali]

Sunnis nowdays even have problem hailing Ali (AS), let alone those who fought for Prophets (AS) family.




Regards
Wasalam

[Mystic]

He was a good person. He never cursed the sahaba. Inshallah he will be rewarded for his deeds.

[shahban-aziz]

Assalamualaikum,

A very useful e-book is available on the www.sunniawateislami.net homepage

On the following link it mentions:

http://www.sunnidawa...fate_of_killers

In the reign of Abdul Malik, when Mukhtar bin Abu Ubaid Saqfi became the governer of Kufa, he became the first person to organise the revenge of the massacre of Imam Hussain RadiyAllahu Anhu and his family. He enquired about the killers and then got them killed ...

On one side Mukhtar did a commendable job by taking the revenge of Imam Hussain and by killing the killers, but on the other hand, he declared himself as a prophet, thus becoming a infidel. Hazrat Abdullah bin Zubair RadiyAllahu Anhuma sent an army in 67 Hijri and destroyed him. [Tareekh e Karbala]


Is this who you are referring to? Hope the above helps and apologies if I have mentioned something completely different etc.

As always, please remember me in your duas,

Shahban

[Mystic]

These are all lies. Al Mukhtar did not declare himself to be Prophet. Also, Abdullah ibn Zubair (Ra) was wrong to attack Al Mukhtar. Al Mukhtar was a true lover of Ahlul Bayt and inshallah he will be granted Jannah.

[technocore]

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Mystic (26.12.2009)

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These are all lies. Al Mukhtar did not declare himself to be Prophet. Also, Abdullah ibn Zubair (Ra) was wrong to attack Al Mukhtar. Al Mukhtar was a true lover of Ahlul Bayt and inshallah he will be granted Jannah.

I heard he was greatly admired by Imam Zainul Abdeen (as). I would love to know more about Al-Mukhtar Al-Thaqafi. Do you have any links where i can read about him.

[Mystic]

Refer to Imam Zayd bin Ali's (as) lectures done by Syed Ninowy. Al Mukhatar had a slave women who wanted to get married. He therefore told Imam Zain Ul Abideen (as) to marry her. Imam Zain Ul Abideen (as) married her and through this marriage the great Imam Zayd bin Ali (as) was born.


http://www.youtube.c...lBayt1#g/search

[sahebju]

assalamualikum

while surfing the net,
i found following information reg mukhtar taqafi

he did not claim to a prophet
but something with imamat,
imam zain al aabideen raz did not support him where as imam hanafia ibn ali raz supported im unoficially

plz see the link
http://www.ismaili.n...history363.html

if i am wrong correct me

with salams
sahebju

[Mystic]

That's an ismaili site. Its not proof for us.

[sahebju]

assalamualikum

thx for the suggestion

i found an explanation in the book totled
tazkiratul hussain raz by mufti ghulam rasool, darul uloom qadiria, london

in that also it is said, that thaqafi was keen to announce imam manafia ibn ali raz as mahdi.

can we follow the book?
if u have any more information plz share

with salams
sahebju

[Mystic]

Nobody says he was infallible. In fact the sahabas are not infallible either. If we look at history we find that Abdullah bin Zubair (ra) made many decision based on his emotions. He had a hard getting over the fact that his father died in Jamal. Due to this event he made a lot of decision based on his emotions. If you look at reality, Al-Mukhtar Al-Thaqafi and Abdullah bin Zubair (ra) could have joined forces and ended the Ummavi usurpation. Unfortunately, history did not go toward this direction.

Today we have people who blindly, give opinions without using any form of rational.

[blogger]

Mystic it would be very beneficial if you could provide text from Ahle Sunnah sources indicating that Al Mukhthar Al Thaqafi did not stray from the right path.

Despite his bravery avenging the dogs of Karbala he is believed to have gone astray according to Ahle Sunnah literature that I have come across. His followers known as 'Mukhtariyya' were said to have rejected the 3 Khulafa before Hazrat Ali Radiallahu Anhu as well as regard Imam Bin Hanfiyyah as Imam Mehdi.

[Mystic]

That's a sect. A sect does not always represent their leader. For example there are zaydis in history who cursed the 3 calipahs. Also, there are many syeds who became 12rs. On the contrary, we are not in agreement with them. My source so far is from Syed Ninowy's lecture who praises him. Refer to Syed Ninowy's lecture on Imam Zayd bin Ali (as).

[hanafi_student]

what we know about Al Mukhtar are a few things,some are known definitively and some are known on the basis of maybe.

What we know definitively is that he took revenge from all those who particpated in the slaughter of Imam Husayn and his family and companions.

The rest about him is not definitive, it is possible that whats' attributed to him is correct, and the opposite is also a possibility. What the Shia Rawafez say, believe, or do, should have no bearing on our judgment. They are one thing, we are another.

[Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam]

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Ali.0009 (26.12.2009)

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Sunnis nowdays even have problem hailing Ali (AS), let alone those who fought for Prophets (AS) family.




Regards
Wasalam

brother seriously, you take things bit to far, Sunnis dont have problem hailing Ali (as), stop causing stir... Sunnis have problme with those who in love of Ali (as) mistreat others... get that right please

[Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam]

Salam,

I spoke to some Sunnis and they say this guy was great for his work agaisnt the killer of Imam hussain rda and he done a brilliant job, but he later went misguided and calim prophethood, OK lets be fair, Why would Sunnis praise him and then degrade him? there must be some kind of history linked to him going astray,?

What have Imam Abu hanifa and other imams said about this person?
What have our great schlor said about this person?

Can we have book references rather then emiotnal talks.

Wasalam

[Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam]

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Mystic (27.12.2009)

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Refer to Imam Zayd bin Ali's (as) lectures done by Syed Ninowy. Al Mukhatar had a slave women who wanted to get married. He therefore told Imam Zain Ul Abideen (as) to marry her. Imam Zain Ul Abideen (as) married her and through this marriage the great Imam Zayd bin Ali (as) was born.


http://www.youtube.c...lBayt1#g/search

Brother AQ,

this person has done good no one is denying that, but what he did later in life is the question here, as for Shaykh Ninowy, well we cant just take one schlors lecture and start to reject what other schlors of past with greater knowledge then Ninowy have said...

Can we please have this issue searched properly...
Wasalam

[Mystic]

If you can get the opinion of another sunni muhadith then it wouldn't be no problem. So far, in terms of knowledge of Ahlul Bayt, I haven't seen a greater scholar than Syed Ninowy.

[sahebju]

assalamualikum

mystic brother

can you please quote the syed ninowy's vies with reference.
so that we can attain knowledge

with salams
sahebju

[Mystic]

Refer to the lectures on Imam Zayd bin Ali (as) on my youtube account.


http://www.youtube.c...lBayt1#g/search