[Tahir-Riaz]

The objective of this thread is to demystify the man from the myth.

These outrageous comments are kept as is in order deteriorate these allegations with evidence. No emotional outbursts please!

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ghada-e-nerian sharif (03.05.2009)

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I am a mureed of Pir Siddiqui sahib for the past 15 years and I must say those of you siding with the so called 'Sayyed' Abdul Qadir are a disgrace to humanity let alone Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaat. I have studied Dars-e-Nizami in this country in Pir Sahib's dars. Our belief is that whatever Pir Sahib says is right and they have proof for it, even if it is not obvious to us.

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ghada-e-nerian sharif (03.05.2009)

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Bro, you are very very mistaken if you think Pir Sahib is going to apologise. He does not apologise to ANYONE who is against the Sahaba-e-Kiraam. Too long have we waited for the Sunni Ulamaa to speak up about Abdul Qadir, and now that Pir Sahib has done it people don't like them.

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ghada-e-nerian sharif (03.05.2009)

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No Sayyed would insult Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddiq (RA) or the other Khalifas. And Hazrat Ali (RA) is as great, excellent and elevated as the others. Anyone who believes Hazrat Ali (RA) is greater or should have been the first Khalifa is not a muslim-because they are disputing the Prophet's decision which is ultimately Allah's (subhanahu wa talla).

Allgegation Nr1.
Pir Syed Abdul Qadir Jilani disprespects Siddque Akbar (ra)

Companionship of Siddeque Akbar (ra) is confirmed by The Holy Quraan

[Know-the-Ledge]

No tahir, this isn't the other side of the fence, this is just a kid who brought a knife to a gun fight, an imbecile swimming in waters deeper than he could handle.

Both men in question are erudites of Ahle-Sunnah-Wal-jammat. That's all most people need to know. Pir Sayed Abdul Qadir jilani himself say's "These issues are for people of calibre, not nameless laymen"

[Tahir-Riaz]

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Know The Ledge (04.05.2009)

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No tahir, this isn't the other side of the fence, this is just a kid who brought a knife to a gun fight, an imbecile swimming in waters deeper than he could handle.

Bro, we have a Video where learned men of Islam have propagated almost the same syllabus. Regarding this Kid, I don't know who he was, but to me he spoke the same language.

I wish I was wrong...

 

Tahir

[Tahir-Riaz]

Allegation Nr.2
Mufakir-e-Islam disrespects Sahaba and Sunni scholars have known this reality for a very long time.

Defending dignity of ALL Sahaba is compulsory for Muslims!

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[qalam]

salam

 

this kid is a wanna be kacha weak unripened mureed.

 

with every word from mufakir e islam my beleif is further strengthened and made firm

 

dr aq  ps i hope the mukirs turn to coal with their hasad.

 

dr aq

[bd8bo]

Pir Sayed Abdul Qadir jilani himself say's "These issues are for people of calibre, not nameless laymen"

Beautifully Put by Shaykh.

[Tahir-Riaz]

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Muhammad_Azeem (05.05.2009)

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Pir Sayed Abdul Qadir jilani himself say's "These issues are for people of calibre, not nameless laymen"

Beautifully Put by Shaykh.

Yes, for the leaned to know and for the layman to learn. Let's all lend an ear to what is being said.

[bd8bo]

Fly like a butterfly

Sting like a bee

I love saying YA ALI!

[Tahir-Riaz]

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Muhammad_Azeem (05.05.2009)

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I love saying YA ALI!

Congratulations, Hauzu'l-Kausar is Insha'Allah ours!

[Tahir-Riaz]

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ghada-e-nerian sharif (03.05.2009)

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I am a mureed of Pir Siddiqui sahib for the past 15 years and I must say those of you siding with the so called 'Sayyed' Abdul Qadir

This allegation is of such a personal nature that it should not be dignified with a reply. However, the learned men of Islam who behind closed doors seed doubts about this issue should be given a fair chance to clarify their misunderstandings.

Please note that no further discussions on this topic will be allowed unless you are willing to establish the authenticity of your biological father. Those who falsely claim to be Syeds are in reality convicting their mothers for committing Zina.

The unbroken chain from The Holy Prophet Sallalaho Alahe Wa Alhei Wassalam to Pir Syed Abdul Qadir Jilani. An overview of the pathway from Madina to Walthamstow London!

[NAQSHABANDI]

Tahir, this kid seems to have fired you up!!:w00t:

i think you should calm down until the shuyukh finalise this issue

as you have made a point regarding mufakire islam's lineage can a shajra shareef please be posted

this is just for general knowledge

[Tahir-Riaz]

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NAQSHABANDI (06.05.2009)

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as you have made a point regarding mufakire islam's lineage can a shajra shareef please be posted, this is just for general knowledge

It’s in the video with all the details. If you are that interested, write it down.

[Abu-Faizan]

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NAQSHABANDI (06.05.2009)

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Tahir, this kid seems to have fired you up!!:w00t:

i think you should calm down until the shuyukh finalise this issue

as you have made a point regarding mufakire islam's lineage can a shajra shareef please be posted

this is just for general knowledge

Just for general knowledge, would you also ask those who made this false allegation for a copy of their shajra shareef?

[NAQSHABANDI]

abu faizan

i have already obtained a copy of shajra shareef from the 'other' side!!!:w00t:

[Qadri-Jilani]

Check the fantastic speech below. Hazrat Sahib mentions points on the shajra near the start:



Ghawth Paak ki awlaad kei saath dushmani will not get anyone far.

[Qadri-Jilani]

I do have a question about the news of Pir "Siddiqi" being from the Awlaad of Hazrat Khalid bin Walid (radiAllahu 'anhu), if this is the case then why does he not write "Walidi" but instead chooses to write "Siddiqi"?

[Qadri-Jilani]

I don't get it?

[m-zahid]

I think the man has already been demystified.As for evidence it has no legs to stand on ,since it is only the man himself and about a dozen of you usual suspects providing it.

Actions speak louder than words!

By the way Tahir some of your co suspects have picked up Tb ,please get them to see a doctor,and i dont mean Dr aq because he is infected him self.

[Qadri-Jilani]

Ok, I don't think anyone knows why Siddiqui is written. Another question which I hope can be clarified is why does he write Siddiqui, his brother Farooqi and his other brother Usmani?

Surely all three cannot be from three different lineages?

Do correct me if I am wrong.

[golvri]

salam

I am a new member and dont realy understand what all this fuss is about. Is the issue of tarteeb a requisite of our aqeeda ?

I didnt think it was as long as you respect all the rightly guided caliphs does it matter who is afzal surely it is a matter of personal opinion, please correct me if i am wrong.

i am not a islamic scholar so i am quite confused about this topic dnt understand what point kaatersunni is trying to make !!

could you learned brothers tell me what a kharjee is ? Is it a new sect? how do you identify one?

Since its my second post on this topic i would like to relate a dream my sheikh shared with me perhaps a lesson can be learnt!!

In this dream my sheikh was walking with his Grand Sheikh at a cemetry when the grand sheikh pointed to a grave he said here is burried a celebrity peer who decieved naive mureeds all his life to build his family a huge home in kashmir and labelled it as a islamic university.

The Grand Sheikh then asked my sheikh to close his eyes to share a vision of his punishment of the grave

My shiekh then saw a decayed old man with snakes entering and exiting all his orfices and at the end of the grave was a dwarf shouting " How dare you stop the name of HAIDER in your mehfils". On seeing this my sheikh woke up and has made it his duty to share his vision to all his mureeds.

So brothers here it is disagree all you like on tarteeb and afzilayat but always remember the grave is not too far.I am concerned about the welfare of m zahid who has shown no respect for a syed Allim.