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Is it permissable to offer salah on half sleeve shirt for women please reaply with hadis shareef hawala

Posted 26 February 2009 - 01:47 AM (#1) User is offline   syedahmed4u 

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assalamalaikumwarehmathullahebarkatahu

is it permissable for women to offer salah (Namaz) on half sleeve shirt or not. because according to shariah women hijab is from her head to toe so please response wth hadees thanks

jazak allah

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 04:52 AM (#2) User is offline   MMM 

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assalamalaikumwarehmathullahebarkatahu

is it permissable for women to offer salah (Namaz) on half sleeve shirt or not. because according to shariah women hijab is from her head to toe so please response wth hadees thanks

jazak allah

Wa Alaykum Assalaam,

The condition of covering the body during Salah is covering the Awrah for both the sexes. For women, it is the whole body except the face and hands according to the Hadith (Ref: Sunan Abu Dawud, Kitab-ul-libas) narrated by Sayyidatuna Ayesha Siddiqah Radi Allahu Anha that once Sayyidatuna Asma Bint Abi Bakr Radi Allahu Anhuma came to The Holy Prophet SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Aalihi Wa Sallam wearing thin clothes and Allah's Beloved Messenger SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Aalihi Wa Sallam turned their Blessed face away from them and told them that when a woman reaches puberty, no part of her body should remain visible except for the face and hands and The Holy Prophet SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Aalihi Wa Sallam pointed at their Blessed face and hands to indicate the parts which can be left uncovered.

If this is the importance of covering other than Salah, then imagine the importance of covering during Salah where the respect should be utmost.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 01:18 AM (#3) User is offline   Brother_UK 

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even a man shouldnt offer namaaz with half sleeves
Kayya nu rooz honday nay Deedar Aap key.. Koi koi tarrapde rehnde nay Deedar vaastey
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 01:42 AM (#4) User is offline   YaNabi-Chemist 

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even a man shouldnt offer namaaz with half sleeves

Where did you get this from?

Are arms considered a part of male awrah?

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 04:26 AM (#5) User is offline   Chisti-Lover 

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so when i pray namaz in my tshirt, its not accepted?
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 02:05 PM (#6) User is offline   Brother_UK 

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depends on an individuals situation, however im pretty sure everyone here can afford or has clothes that cover your arms, if this is the case then I think it is mukru e tehrimi to do salat in a t-shirt.. when a person is extremely poor with no clothing etc. Then a man can do his namaaz in just a cloth covering from the navel to the knees.. This is from either Bahare Shariat or Rukhne Deen..

someone with more knowledge can elaborate or correct me..
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Posted 29 April 2009 - 12:13 PM (#7) User is offline   diwanisarkarki 

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To brother UK

Can you plzz tell me what is mukru e tehrimi .

Actually I do say salah in my office,there somtime i wear half sleeve suits but i try to cover my hands but somtime my hands appears then i cover them with the dupatta.so what about this, Allah will accept these prayers.But at home i always cover my hands

plzz tell me

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 12:41 PM (#8) User is offline   True-Qadri-Razawi 

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Makruh Tahrimi means strongly disliked and wajib to read the namaz again.

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 01:34 PM (#9) User is offline   Qadri-Jilani 

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If it concerns the awra, then the payer is not valid if not covered. However, that is regarding whether the prayer is valid/invalid. In terms of being makruh then a male should not pray with half sleeves, the prayer will not be invalid but it is disliked when one has the means to cover his arms. The elbows and forearms of a male should be covered. I will try to post more later.

For a female it has already been stated that the prayer will be invalid as arms are part of the awra.

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 12:29 AM (#10) User is offline   Just_Ahsun 

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To brother UK

Can you plzz tell me what is mukru e tehrimi .

Actually I do say salah in my office,there somtime i wear half sleeve suits but i try to cover my hands but somtime my hands appears then i cover them with the dupatta.so what about this, Allah will accept these prayers.But at home i always cover my hands

plzz tell me


Assalamu alaikum sister, the case of mahru e tehrimi won't be applied in your case as brother QJ stated it clearly that its obligatory part of your Namaz to cover your awrah and the awrah of woman encompasses everything except her hands and face according to hanafi fiqh. So don't risk it, an advice to you!

Secondly, apart from namaz its haram for women to show her bare arms in puplic or hairs. Don't mean to cause offense but from you message it seems like your just wearing half sleeve suit in public without proper hijab on top of your dress.

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In case of men, to pray in half sleeve is makroh e tanzihi (small makruh) and doesn't nulify your prayers but its diliked ! However, mahroh e tehremi is greater makruh and nullifies your Namaz when neglected.
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Posted 17 May 2009 - 06:59 AM (#11) User is offline   dr3r9q230924TDFOMGDFOGR 

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Wa `alaykum salam:

InshAllah, I will forward your question to Shaykh Munawwar Ateeq Rizwi.

Wassalam

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 08:18 PM (#12) User is offline   s4mr4h_78 

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Asalamo alaikum,

sis why don't you just wear a long sleeved cardigan over your half sleeved suit when praying namaaz. I do that when I have sleeves which don't reach the wrists...there are loads of nice cardigans in a million different colours incase you're worried it won't look good.

It's better than missing your salaah for it.






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Posted 20 May 2009 - 03:55 PM (#13) User is offline   Just_Ahsun 

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...S@Mr4h... (18.05.2009)
Asalamo alaikum,

sis why don't you just wear a long sleeved cardigan over your half sleeved suit when praying namaaz. I do that when I have sleeves which don't reach the wrists...there are loads of nice cardigans in a million different colours incase you're worried it won't look good.

It's better than missing your salaah for it.

Assalamu alaikum, but isn't it commanded to cover up uptil and including the wrist in the hanafi fiqh (I am presuming your are hanafi)?

Which would further conclude that, isn't it better to buy sleeves which reach wrists even for normal wear in public, rather than just limiting it to the acceptance of 5 times prayers?

My appologies for being direct, its just that I expect that you have accepted me as your brother and hence I conveyed the point straightforward, as you describes in another thread with an 'apna pan' :).

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 04:45 PM (#14) User is offline   s4mr4h_78 

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Assalamu alaikum, but isn't it commanded to cover up uptil and including the wrist in the hanafi fiqh (I am presuming your are hanafi)?

Which would further conclude that, isn't it better to buy sleeves which reach wrists even for normal wear in public, rather than just limiting it to the acceptance of 5 times prayers?

My appologies for being direct, its just that I expect that you have accepted me as your brother and hence I conveyed the point straightforward, as you describes in another thread with an 'apna pan' :).


Wa alaikum asalaam,woops I wasn't clear enough with what I meant.

Yes it is best to wear long sleeves all the time - but sometimes especially with asian clothes full length sleeves aren't worn that's why I suggested wearing a cardigan over the top. I mentioned the different colours so that the sister wasn't put off by this thought as you can buy any which look fantastic with what you're wearing so she could wear it at work also :)

Try and keep your arms covered as possible when out, theres many ways around it. If you're in western clothes which have minimum sleeves then just wear a long sleeved top underneath or again cardigans are great. The excuses wear out thin if you explore your options in clothing as there is always a way round to cover yourself if you do not wear jilbab. Your hijab consists of covering all parts of the awrah, so nothing but your face and hands should be showing. I think it's in the shafi fiqh where it is also obligatory to cover ones feet i.e. no bare feet showing. Hence your hijab isn't just to cover the hair.

Don't apologies brother i'm glad you gave me the opportunity to clarify ;)







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Posted 20 April 2011 - 12:41 AM (#15) User is offline   adnanghurabaa 

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Salaam

I think the short answer to the sisters question is that your arms are part of your awrah so they must be covered during prayer.

For men praying with there elbows showing in the hanafi school is makruh tahriman, its in the fiqh books.

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 05:29 PM (#16) User is offline   arabspyder 

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View PostBrother_UK, on 21 April 2009 - 01:18 AM, said:

even a man shouldnt offer namaaz with half sleeves


Q: Is it allowed to perform Namaaz in a T-shirt whose sleeves are at or above elbow?
A: Hozoor Sadr-u-Sharia Aleh Rehmat says that the one who has proper clothes and still performs Namaaz wearing a T-shirt or a Vest it is considered
Karahat-e-Tanzeehi and if one does not have proper clothes than there is no Karahat in it, it is allowed. (Fatawa Amjadia Part 1, Page 193) Allah Ta'ala Knows the best.
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