Some time back we had a of Mirza on the main page.
The text next to the ugly picture sounds like something out of a fairy tale as any reasonable person would think but some may be surprised to know that it is something straight out of Mirza Qadiani's own books and the Qadianis believe in it.
Since, I have been debating a Qadiani for a while, we had a talk on this topic and so here is the dialogue and his pathetic defence and the ultimate retreat.
My little children, of whom I suffer with birth-pangs again until Christ be formed in you.
The Holy Bible. Galatians 4: 19
Such experiences are found in saints throughout world religions. Such a Imam Razi and Abu Hanifa. Also see Revelations of Divine Love of St Juliana of Norwich and the Book of Margery Kempe.
Read and follow the divine command to 'Eat the boke' in the Revelations of St John the divine you illiterate bigots. You are none better than the donkeys described in Surah Jumma.
Mr. Poet has resorted to quoting us from the books of his true masters.
The Holy Bible?
You ignoramus? When did the Bible become Holy?
A book which has been tampered and changed by the christians and has nothing to do with the Muslims, you are going to use that to justify Mirza's ridiculous words.
But I guess it doesn't make a difference. You lot are already kafirs. Couldn't stoop any lowerer.
And don't lie about our saints.
Hazrat Isa (AS) has been mentioned in the Quran as Isa Ibn-e-Maryam (AS).
How can Ghulam Ahmad son of Chiragh Bibi or Kahisti (whatever the name of his mother was) ....so how can Ghulam Ahmad Ibn-e-Chiragh Bibi (Lantee) become Isa Ibn-e-Maryam (Alahai Salam).
Hazrat Isa Ibn-e-Maryam (AS) was born without a father. Did Mirza have one or not ?
Mirza also claimed to be the avtar of the Hindu Lord Krishna, Mahdi and what not.
Khurd Ka Naam Janoon Rakh Diya, Janoon Ka Khurd
Jou Chahay Aap Ka Husan Karishma Saaz Karay
The Holy Quran tells us the the Bible is a revealed and holy book. Where do you learn your so-called Islam from mister!?
Islam also tells us that the Bible is not in its original form anymore. No offence but even my toilet paper has more IQ than you sir. Are you in denail that the Bible has not been changed? Even the christians acknowledge that it is interwined with all the words of Paul, Matthew, John etc.
And if it wasn't for Allah Protecting the Quran, you lot would have changed it too.
But it is a great Favour of Allah upon His Beloved Messenger SAW that no tamperer of the Holy Quran shall ever succeed.
Of course thye Bible has been changed and tampered with. Ghulam Rasool this is perhaps one of the first times where you have actually said something worth answering. I recently wrote a lengthy dissertation on the subject of tampering of the Bible but I'll spare you that.
Suffice it to say that I was merely pointing out that such experiences are found commonly in mystics and sages of all religions.
I'm leaving this forum now as I will not ttolerate you lot cursing and swearing at my masters. The Quran forbids you to swear at even the idols lest their worshippers swear at God in return. But of course as the Hadith narrates you only keep that to decorate upon your shelves, not to learn.
I have found better and more worthy forums for a platform for intellectual and decent debate with knowledgable people. Inshallah that will result in people converting to Ahmadiyyat, the true Islam rather than move away from it.
Allah deal with you in the apt manner.
Cursing and swearing at your masters? Mr. Poet, nobody here swore at them and as far as cursing goes then yes we curse those who are the enemies of our Prophet SAW as Allah Has Cursed them.
Infact, your Mirza has swore at the Muslim countless times in a manner that would put the worst of people to shame which you try and defend or plain overlook.
You said that you will post from Tafsir Ibn-e-Kathir and then you did a complete U-turn as has been inheritted by every member of your cult from your forefathers and masters. Go learn the principles of a debate first.
The Quran forbids us not to say bad about other religions in which category you people lie but at the sametime the Muslims are under obligation to admonish the slanderers of the Quran and the Prophets.
It was you who challenged us and are now running away. This forum did not contain this much material on the Mirza and the Qadianis. It was you who started it all. Otherwise, we Muslims don't worry a rat's tail about you people.
Stop claiming yourselves to be Muslims. Acknowledge yourselves to be a religion outside Islam and we'll leave you alone. How much do we discuss about Christainity, Hinduism or Judaism here? Challenge us and you'll be knocked to the ground swiftly.
Your curse will bear no effect on me InshAllah as neither did Mirza's curse on his enemies but in actual fact it backfired.
May Allah give me and every Muslim the strength to fight Qadiyaniyat and give you taufeeq to realise the truth. Ameen.
P.S. There is no need to leave the forum. Abandon this debate and don't indulge into matters of religions of the Muslims and you will be fine.
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