[muhibban-e-sunnat]

assalam-o-alaikum bros n sis..

im here in states .. and having problem with food .. cant really find any halal food .. so i have to eat fish everyday .. my friends ket asking me that y cant we eat non halal chicken or beef or pork ..
so im looking for a solid reason and reference ..
can anyone help me out ,,,
jazakallah

[Madad-Ya-Rasulullah-saw]

As salaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

I don't see why there would be a problem with finding halaal food since there are many Muslims in america. Have you been to the local Masjid and asked them or asked other Muslims at all?

[AashiqueRasool]

Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheemi
WaAlaikum as Salaam wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu

Fatwa - Conditions Pertaining to HALAL Meat
by Mufti Shareeful Haq Amjadi  

"Zabiha" or "slaughter" by a non-Muslim is Haraam and falls within the laws of carrion or dead meat. To consume the Zabiha of
a non-Muslim is like eating swine. Any animal that has been slaughtered by a non-Muslim is regarded as carrion and as a
"major impurity" or "Najaasat-e-Ghaliza". It is not permissable to consume such an animal or touch it. The only circumstances
under which it can be touched is to throw it away. 

This law applies in the case of non-Muslims. But it also be known that if a Muslim does not say "Bismillah" when slaughtering an
animal, then such and animal is also considered to be Haraam. The law concerning meat is so strict that even if the meat leaves
the sight of a Muslim into the care of a Kaafir at any time after slaughtering till the time of consumption, then such meat cannot
be eaten and is said to be Haraam. But, if one has a trustworthy non-Muslim servant who you know without doubt will not
allow any contamination in your meat, then it is allowed to send him to a well-recognised Muslim butcher to purchase your meat
in your absence.

Read on:- Pertaining to HALAL Meat

It should help you InshaAllah!

[shaq]

wassalam go to zabihah.com

[Mohammad_Ali]

No offence but what kind of a question is that 'why can't we eat non Halal meat' - its just like asking "why can't we have intercourse out of marriage, why cant we do Zina, why can't we go steal from the bank, why can't we mutilate people, why can't we deal with interest, why can't we go blow up a Mosque, why can't we pray like Christians do".

When you know something is Haram from the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Messenger - you are not expected to ask questions but to follow it whether you understand the reasoning behind it or not.

[muhibban-e-sunnat]

jazakallah

[muhibban-e-sunnat]

Originally posted by: Mohammad Ali


No offence but what kind of a question is that 'why can't we eat non Halal meat' - its just like asking "why can't we have intercourse out of marriage, why cant we do Zina, why can't we go steal from the bank, why can't we mutilate people, why can't we deal with interest, why can't we go blow up a Mosque, why can't we pray like Christians do".

you should have asked before writing something bro ,, what i wrote wasnt this .. somebody changed the topic name .. next time please make sure about things you say ,,

i wanted to ask that why people say that we can eat fish ,, y its not haram ,, and secondly i asked the references .. i got 'em ..

When you know something is Haram from the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Messenger - you are not expected to ask questions but to follow it whether you understand the reasoning behind it or not.

[Mohammad_Ali]

You had said:

my friends ket asking me that y cant we eat non halal chicken or beef or pork ..

Next time you make sure you know what you have written before you explode like that - bro.

[muhibban-e-sunnat]

Originally posted by: Mohammad Ali


You had said:

my friends ket asking me that y cant we eat non halal chicken or beef or pork ..

Next time you make sure you know what you have written before you explode like that - bro.


bro thats what they ask ,. and i asked the reference or hadeeth for that ..

[luckbrand]

I found this website because i searched "Why do we eat halal meat" via google. Even tho the first response i saw from another question really made me upset, i continued to read to see if anyone was capable of giving a legit, honest, and most of all logical answer.

Mohammad Ali,
what kind of helpful answer is what you posted...

"No offence but what kind of a question is that 'why can't we eat non Halal meat' - its just like asking "why can't we have intercourse out of marriage, why cant we do Zina, why can't we go steal from the bank, why can't we mutilate people, why can't we deal with interest, why can't we go blow up a Mosque, why can't we pray like Christians do".

When you know something is Haram from the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Messenger - you are not expected to ask questions but to follow it whether you understand the reasoning behind it or not. "

let me tell you something... i am sure if he wanted to be criticized for his question he would have posted it in such a manner to be criticized... furthurmore, i am also a muslim who lives in the states, and its because of people like you, who only judge and critic others in a non helpful manner that i have doubts about Islam and God and religion..

in response to part of your message
"you are not expected to ask questions"
You know i find that there are alot of unanswered questions that i have, and the worst part is that i have confidence there is an answer.... but through islam and its "followers" or at least the people i have encountered, much like urself, i have found that we are incapable of giving an answer.... i wont go into what i believe... it just brings me back to what i said earlier... its people like yourself that create doubts in the mind of those who are in question.

Also,
"...why can't we go steal from the bank"
the things that you mentioned in that part of your answer arent even comparable subjects. The reason for not eating halal meat is different that the reason we dont blow up a masjid, or steal from the bank.... we dont steal because its morally wrong, because the contents are not ours to take, it belongs to someone else, and we dont blow up masjids because thats not only morally wrong, but logically wrong and we have no right to take anyones life.....

To all those that have questions and end up reading this, unless it gets deleted, which is possible;
I am by no means dictating to you my belief system, i am merely standing up and speaking my mind and my opinion, to let others know my question, and my philosophy on this particular posting.

You are welcome to reply.

[Know-the-Ledge]

Originally posted by: Mohammad Ali


You had said:

my friends ket asking me that y cant we eat non halal chicken or beef or pork ..

Next time you make sure you know what you have written before you explode like that - bro.

It's a perfectly valid question, though maybe not articulated entirely coorectly.

He is asking for reference pertaining to the restriction placed upon chicken and other meat sources which are haraam.

To rephrase his question:

"Can sombody please list some references from Quran and Hadith which are proof of the illegitimacy of consumption of meats including, but not limited to, Chicken, Pork, beef?

[MMM]

We are not allowed to eat non-halal meat because:

1. It is forbidden in Islam.

2. It kills the spirituality of the heart.

3. Since the name of Allah 'Azzawajal has not been taken before slaughtering the animal, it is not purified from spiritual and physical illnesses.

Mashaykh say that the non-halal meat affects the modesty and character of a person. A Shaykh once ate a piece of meat at a dinner and felt that it was haraam as it affected their spirituality as soon as they swallowed it. They later said that they offered Salaat-ul-'Asr repeatedly several times in order to regain that state of spirituality which disappeared after they swallowed that piece of halaal meat.

So, since haraam meat influences a person towards immodesty and immorality, Muslims refrain from eating it. Same goes for earning haraam.

JazakAllahu Khayran

[MMM]

Brother KTL, I don't think that the brother wants references to convince the non-Muslim questioners. They want a reasoning as to why Islam forbids it.

Brother Muhammad Subhan, the answer I gave to your question is from an Islamic aspect obviously so it may or maynot convince the questioners. We can tell them what we believe but we cannot force them to believe it. However, if they do look around themselves and the prevailing immodesty, which also targets many Muslims, they might understand our stance.

Lakum Deenukum Wa Liyadeen

Jazakumullahu Khayran

[Damishq]

Originally posted by: Muhammad Mobasher Muhammadi We are not allowed to eat non-halal meat because: 1. It is forbidden in Islam. 2. It kills the spirituality of the heart. 3. Since the name of Allah 'Azzawajal has not been taken before slaughtering the animal, it is not purified from spiritual and physical illnesses. Mashaykh say that the non-halal meat affects the modesty and character of a person. A Shaykh once ate a piece of meat at a dinner and felt that it was haraam as it affected their spirituality as soon as they swallowed it. They later said that they offered Salaat-ul-'Asr repeatedly several times in order to regain that state of spirituality which disappeared after they swallowed that piece of halaal meat. So, since haraam meat influences a person towards immodesty and immorality, Muslims refrain from eating it. Same goes for earning haraam. JazakAllahu Khayran

JazakAllah Khair for sharing the incident with us all

[hamdaan]

someone told me that all chicken come in uk from diffrent places not from halal slaughter houses.
Local burgur and chicken shops can't afford hallal chicken I mean then  can't sell in 2 or 3 pound.so should we trust on all these chicken shops where It's mention  a word halaal?

[mudasir]

Assalamualikum !! Brother i am in States also, where do you live, the word Halal just doesnt cut it here, it has to be Zabiha Halal... I am sure ther is a halal store in ur neighborhood and you can also order halal food online thou it will take 2 - 3 to reach you by fed ex... but i m pretty sure u will find halal somewer.....

Where do you live in States.
The way of Islamic slaughter makes sure that the animal does not suffer and all the blood drains out of the body.

There is a clear prohibition regarding pork in the Quran and regarding animals slaughtered without Allah's name

(He hath only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that on which any other name hath been invoked besides that of Allah. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits - then is he guiltless. For Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful) (Al Baqarah: 173)

(Forbidden to you (your food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on wish hath been invoked the name of other than Allah; that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; than which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject Faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination transgression, Allah is indeed Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful).(The table's Chapter...verse no: 3)

[hanifbeg]

Originally posted by: zeeshan ansir someone told me that all chicken come in uk from diffrent places not from halal slaughter houses. I Dont Think So... :-)
Local burgur and chicken shops can't afford hallal chicken I mean then can't sell in 2 or 3 pound.so should we trust on all these chicken shops where It's mention a word halaal? NO... Definately NOT...!!!!

[Mohammad_Ali]

i am also a muslim who lives in the states, and its because of people like you, who only judge and critic others in a non helpful manner that i have doubts about Islam and God and religion..

You donot know me and yet you choose to level such an allegation against me accusing me of being as one who has cause a rift in your faith. You have made just one post and that too directed only towards me thus rendering whatever I have contributed to this community as 'unhelpful' and cause of doubts in your faith. Thank you for including me among the munafiqeen and Shayateen destined for hell fire rather than notice that I had misunderstood the nature of the question posted.

Please then give a warning to all the users on board tell them to beware of whatever I may post as it may create doubts in your faith - thank you once again for including me amongst the vile lot of fitna mongers - thank you very much!

I thus do beg you now to do one favor and pray for my early elimination and death from the face of the earth lest I so recklessly misguide and cause rifts in another innocent individuals faith - as though my faith means nothing - why should it mean anything anyway. Thank you very much I will be most obliged and the world would be a much better place with people like me gone from it - I am sure you would agree!!!!!

[Know-the-Ledge]

Originally posted by: Muhammad Mobasher Muhammadi

Brother KTL, I don't think that the brother wants references to convince the non-Muslim questioners. They want a reasoning as to why Islam forbids it.



It was a little ambiguous so that's where the confusion arose from, either way, both were valid questions!