[rydaa_78]

Salaam, im a little confused on the Aqidah of this shaykh/scholar ?? some say hes sunni, some say hes wahabi,  causing great confusion,  leaflets are been given in every mosque , that say come away frm biddah and shirk etc  and come to the Tariqa Muhamdiya , something you would only hear from a wahabis mouth,

some sunni mosques in Bolton are happy and letting him in, some are not , its causing great confusion and before brothers start getting brainwashed can somebody who knows please clarify this persons Aqeeda,

[hanafi-uk]

he is regular at the islamic academy in manchester which is deo-bandi headquarters of the manchester well in with khalid mehmood

[AHLESUNNAT-uk]

AHMAD DABBAGH whose real name is hafiz waheed is not a sufi or a pir but a jinn master,

once he became a jinn master he changed his name from hafiz waheed to ahmad dabbagh and he goes to all the deo-bandi mosques in manchester and only 1 sunni mosque in bolton and his aim is only to capture people and mess thier lifes up.

may allah swt save us

[Sunni-Student]

In what way does he mess peoples lifes up? and what is your basis of saying he is a jinn master?

[Abu-Halima-Chishti]

Originally posted by: AHLESUNNAT uk

AHMAD DABBAGH whose real name is hafiz waheed is not a sufi or a pir but a jinn master,

once he became a jinn master he changed his name from hafiz waheed to ahmad dabbagh and he goes to all the deo-bandi mosques in manchester and only 1 sunni mosque in bolton and his aim is only to capture people and mess thier lifes up.

may allah swt save us

Is this Hafiz Waheed Ahmed "Dabagh" from a town called Ashton-under-Lyne, near Manchester ?

Can you ellaborate on him being a "Jinn Master" ?

[Abu-Halima-Chishti]

I've come accross this book intro at http://www.islamicgoodsdirect.co.uk, is it the same Ahmed Dabbagh ?

* A Journey Towards The Divine Presence - Key To Purification Of Body, Mind, Heart & Soul by Ahmad Dabbagh

The Grand Master of the Tareeq, Syidina Abdul Azeez Dahbagh (rhu) lived and died in the blessed city of Fez, Morocco (Maghrib). He had Illuminated himself with Quran and Sunnah. He was a complete embodiment of Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah (saw). His method of Self-Purification is unique in the sense that the wayfarer becomes close to Allah the Exalted day by day of which he himself witnesses. The individual is not required to abandon lawful activities of this life.

It is currently taught by the present Master of the Tareeq, Hazrat Ahmad Dabbagh (db). He is the spiritual heir and the representative of Syidina Abdul Azeez Dabbagh (rhu). His blessed guidance and teachings is illuminating the heart and soul of those who are under his supervision. Many seek his advice for both their spiritual and physical well-being in this life and the hereafter.

The ultimate aim of the Tareeq is to become full embodiment of Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah (saw), nothing beyond.

[AHLESUNNAT-uk]

yes brother it is him plz read the following link and stay away from him jazakallah http://www.yanabi.co...&threadid=32542

[aqdas]

what's the latest on this sulah kulli jinn master? http://www.yanabi.com/forum/Topic210595-13-1.aspx

[seeker]

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AHMAD DABBAGH whose real name is hafiz waheed is not a sufi or a pir but a jinn master,


once he became a jinn master he changed his name from hafiz waheed to ahmad dabbagh and he goes to all the deo-bandi mosques in manchester and only 1 sunni mosque in bolton and his aim is only to capture people and mess thier lifes up.


may allah swt save us

I can't believe you said that!

He is a Sufi, who led a nice dhikr session, and he is a Sunni and he is a Hanafi.

What has he said that you are accusing him of?

Until then he remains innocent of all your accusations - "jinn master"... are you serious!

[zahir-b]

salams,

where does the 'jinn master' puts his jinns? in da-bag?

[m_i200]

Are there any videos/audios provng his deviance?

[rafiq]

Ash-Shaykh Ahmad ad-Dabbagh is a wonderful Sunnî scholar who has done a great deal of work in defence of Ahlus-Sunna. He broke Wahhâbism on its tracks in 1996 and I myself am a witness to this. I don’t want to give away too many details regarding it. He has nothing to do with Sir Sayyid Ahmad or Wahhâbiyûn. Please do not spread such false information.

 

He is a very spiritual person who has gained a lot of blessings from many of the Awliyâ’ and particularly Hadrat Ghawth `Abdul-`Azîz ad-Dabbâgh (quddisa sirruh).

[ChWaqar]

he his a man with mixed belifes and that is a fact! he a deulband brevli and D******i

we did investigation on the full tariqa and they are good but mixed! sorry but that is a fact historically fine but not now stay away

[Muslimah2011]

Assalam,

I dont know who fed you all this information as it is all untrue. You must not always believe what other people say. If ou want the truth do not hesitate to go to : www.zawiyah.org where you will get most of the answers and facts and there will be contact information on that website if you are still in doubt.

Wassalam

[Muslimah2011]

Assalam,

You should try and get the proper facts than believing other people. You'll get the proper answers and facts from www.zawiyah.org.

Wassalam

[checkmate]

salaam

I dont know of his beliefs, and it maybe true that his beliefs are more inline with the dewbandi but I happen to go to one of the masjids under the supervision of Ahmad Dabbagh saab, they were having a mashwara on how to do the work of deen, which does not really take place in sunni masjids, anyway that is besides the point. I saw noor on the face of his mureeds, they were adorned according to the sunnah and felt peace looking at their mureeds, if that is the case of the mureed, I wonder what the case would be of the peer himself. I was impressed. I have heard nasty things said about him, but what i saw was contrary to that. May Allah tala keep him guided, so what he aint 100percent brelvi.

I love ala hadrat rahimahullah but lets not make him the measurement of ones Islam.

[Kiran-Fatima]

Shaykh Ahmad is a true wali, and indeed a wali of very high maqam in the hierarchy of the awliyah. The tariqa is called Tariqa Muhammadiyya, and it goes from Shaykh Abdal Aziz Dabbagh (ra) back to the Shadhili lineage and further back to Shaykh Abdal Qadir Jilani (ra). It is called Tariqa Muhammadiyya because it is built around getting direct access to the Prophet (sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam). The Indian Tariqa Muhammadiyya is different, much later, inauthentic and very opposed. It is not true that Shaykh Ahmad is part Deobandi. It is simply that he takes the Sunnah very seriously and applies it inwardly and outwardly. His aqaid is fully that of Ala Hadrat (but his practice is also fully that of Ala Hadrat, which is more than you can say of most Barailwi ulama). He does long dhikrs (including collective ones, unlike Deobandi scholars), he does ghiarwi sharif, and he believes in haazir-nazir--the difference is simply that he does not take lightly the Sunnah and indeed this is true wilayah. Even in his number of children (7), he has followed the Sunnah to the letter. His wife is also a waliyah who is known to see things happening from a distance. He has endless karamat: the greatest of which is leading you to visions of the Prophet (sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam). He has also got ilm ladunni (which is inspired knowledge, like Khidr alayhis Salam), as he can gives long interpretations of Quran and Ahadith, even when he is asked on the spot or just shown a hadith he admits he has not seen before. Although he is so humble that he disallows people to stand up when he enters the room, and disallows them kissing his hand, the fact is that even many of the most senior Barelwi ulama in this country and even some of the pir sahibaan are his students in matters of spirituality (i.e. they take lessons from him). He does not ask for bayah, but simply gives you a written course of self-purification in which you step-by-step attain rank by following the inner and outer sunnah. The culmination of this is when your veils are lifted and you get visions of the awliyah, the angels and the prophets. He says that most should be able to attain this rank within three years of abstaining from the haram and the makruh (of the eyes, ears, tongue, and other limbs: fully explained in the course). And about him taking money, before someone makes up something, this is the shaykh who himself sent a student of his money when she couldn't afford the rent where she was living. He himself has a business of renting out two taxis to drivers, and is financially totally independent, just as the awliyah of the past were totally unreliant on anyone apart from Allah. His door is open to all of creation, because he calls to that which all the Messengers called to, namely obedience to Allah, and saving oneself from the fire of Hell.

[-Said-]

Kiran-Fatima, on 18 February 2011 - 01:52 AM, said:

Shaykh Ahmad is a true wali, and indeed a wali of very high maqam in the hierarchy of the awliyah...

As-salamu alaykum,

Baraka Allahu fiki sister. A very interesting read. Sounds like a great shaykh, masha'Allah!

[MujahidDean]

I am certain Jinns and Shayateens are manipulating the karamaats and kushf occuring within Tariqa Muhammadiyya, i.e the visions of awliya, angels etc
As muslims we cant slander and backbite , we need to bring proofs until then we have to have good thoughts on about our brothers.
We need to accept in this day and age the high ranking awliya are few and far between
We have many charlatan pirs, we cant deny this modern day fact. We also have people who believe genuinely, maybe as a result of takabr they are on a high spiritual plane but are in fact being deluded by shaytaan and thereby shaytaan uses this method to dupe the sincere mureeds.
We have to be vigilant, my advice is stay away, take the cautious route, shataan has more knowledge of humans than we do, he has a powerful evil force. We may get manipulated and we think we are on the pure truth, its that dangerous

[qweenaksa]

asalamualaykum sister...ahmad dabbah i tell u is a very educated man and a huge wali indeed.! at the moment im doing a alimah course with him and his students. he is VERY good mashallah. and to clarify, ahmad dabbagh is not a jinn master, or a diobandi or anything like that, hes a pure wali, a sunni and hes from the hanafi fiqh . tareeqah muhammadiyah and all his mosques all around are all sunni's and follow hanafi fiqh, if he wasnt a sunni and hanafi then my mum wouldnt send me to his mosque! i advise you all to listen to his lectures on 'www.zawiyah.co.uk' and listen to his beautiful zikr and his lectures, they are very inspirational. and if you can atleast do the self purification course...
jazakallah sister asalamualaykum x