[hanifbeg]

Salam,

ILM-E-GHAIB ka inkaar KUFAR hai


Q : ILM-E-GHAIB kya hai ?

A : ILM-E-GHAIB, future may honay walay WAAQIYAAT hain.

Q : Kya hum ALLAH-TALA ko GHAIB keh saktay hain ?

A : HAAN, kyun k ALLAH-TALA ki zaat MAKHFEE hai, is liyay.

Q : Hum ko ALLAH-TALA ki zaat k baray mai kaisay pata chala ?

A : hum ko ALLAH-TALA kay baray mai pyaray nabi (s.a.w) nay bataya.

Q : is ka matlab yay howa kay agar pyaray nabi (s.a.w) ki zaat nahi hoti,
to hum ko ALLAH-TALA ki zaat k baray may pata nahi chalta ?

A : jee haan offcourse, ap nay sahi farmaya.To sabit yay howa k ALLAH-TALA ki zaat GHAIB hai.

hum ko ALLAH-TALA k baray mai pyaray nabi (s.a.w) say pata chala.

jis nay pyaray nabi (s.a.w) kay ILM-E-GHAIB ka inkaar kiya...goya.

us nay ALLAH-TALA ki zaat ko man-nay say INKAAR kiya.

aur jo ALLAH-TALA ko man-nay say INKAAR karay.

wo KAAFIR nahi to aur kiya hai ?

Allah Hafiz ... 

[maazraza]

Bismillah! Wa laikum Us Salam dekho bhai Hazoor Pak k pass jitna bhi Ilm sab Allah Tallah ney diya .... Ghaib Ka Ilm Har Koi nahi jaanta... Koi Aisa bhi Ilm tha Jo Hazoor Pak k pass nahi tha...? Haaan... Jiz ki Unko Zaroorat Nahi thi woh Ilm nahi tha... Par Jitna bhi Ilm unko diya gaya ya yunn kaho jitna bhi Ilm Kissi kay pass bhi hai sab Allah Tallah k pass hai...

[madanibro]

Asalaam o alaikum, brother and sisters. Nabi paak s.a.w. ke ilm ki koye hadh nahi, hamerey ilm ki hadh hai, jitna nabi paak s.a.w neh hamey batheya aur jitna hamney yaad kiya, waha thak alam bangay, aur jo bhool gaya woh bhool gaya, isliye ke hamarey ilm ki hadh hai aur nabi paak s.a.w ke ilm ki KOYE HADH NAHI.

[hanifbeg]

Originally posted by: mohammed khan

Asalaam o alaikum, brother and sisters. Nabi paak s.a.w. ke ilm ki koye hadh nahi, hamerey ilm ki hadh hai, jitna nabi paak s.a.w neh hamey batheya aur jitna hamney yaad kiya, waha thak alam bangay, aur jo bhool gaya woh bhool gaya, isliye ke hamarey ilm ki hadh hai aur nabi paak s.a.w ke ilm ki KOYE HADH NAHI.

exactly .. i have just put a simple scenario!!

[Ashiq--e--Rasool]

Originally posted by: mohammed khan Asalaam o alaikum, brother and sisters. Nabi paak s.a.w. ke ilm ki koye hadh nahi, hamerey ilm ki hadh hai, jitna nabi paak s.a.w neh hamey batheya aur jitna hamney yaad kiya, waha thak alam bangay, aur jo bhool gaya woh bhool gaya, isliye ke hamarey ilm ki hadh hai aur nabi paak s.a.w ke ilm ki KOYE HADH NAHI. Walekumassalam

Is the limitlessness of huzoors ilm with respect to our ilm?.
and is huzoor ilm limited with respect to Allah(swt)'s ilm?.
Jazakallah

[hanifbeg]

Originally posted by: Ashiq-e- Rasool

Originally posted by: mohammed khan

Asalaam o alaikum, brother and sisters. Nabi paak s.a.w. ke ilm ki koye hadh nahi, hamerey ilm ki hadh hai, jitna nabi paak s.a.w neh hamey batheya aur jitna hamney yaad kiya, waha thak alam bangay, aur jo bhool gaya woh bhool gaya, isliye ke hamarey ilm ki hadh hai aur nabi paak s.a.w ke ilm ki KOYE HADH NAHI.
Walekumassalam

Is the limitlessness of huzoors ilm with respect to our ilm?.and is huzoor ilm limited with respect to Allah(swt)'s ilm?.

Jazakallah

salam,

there is no limit of ilm ul ghaib and of course knowledge of seen of our beloved prophet, so we cant measure any limit or we cant imagine his knowledge!! ..

[Star78692]

The Deadliest Weapon

"THE TONGUE"

The Best Weapon

"THE TONGUE"

depends on how you use it.

[Umm-Salamah]

Assalaamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullah,

i have hardly any knowledge and i am here to inshaAllah expand in knowledge.. as far as i know, ilm ul ghayb (knowledge of the unseen) belongs to Allah (subhaanahu wa ta'ala) and He reveals from it whatever He wills to Whom He wills...such as the Prophets ('alayhimusalam)...

Wasalaaam

[ghuurabaa]

from (Al-Qur'an 7:188)

"Say [O Muhammad]! I' have no power to bring good to myself nor avert harm but it is only as Allah wills. If it were that I knew the unseen, I would have multiplied the good and no evil would have touched me.'"

[m_i200]

Prophet Muhammad (May Allah bless him and grant him peace) stood up in one meeting and he started to tell us about events from the beginning of this world to the end and he told us about heaven and hell and about the people who were going to hell and who were going to heaven and what will be their places in heaven and hell. Of course, some people remember what he told us and some people have forgotten.

(Bukhari, Chapter Bada-Ul-Khalq.)

The Prophet Muhammad (May Allah bless him and grant him peace) led the Fajr prayer and then sat on the pulpit, and until Zuhr he told the people of the things about the Unseen. After Zuhr, he sat on the pulpit and continued until Asar, then sat on the pulpit and continued until Maghrib prayer. He even informed of the dwellers of Paradise and Hell.

(Muslim chapter on Fadial).

Hafidhh ibn Hajar Asqalani in his famous commentary to Sahih Bukhari writes that:

What Prophet Muhammad (May Allah bless him and grant him peace) told in that one meeting is a miracle of the Prophet and this should not be doubted.

(Fathul Bari chap on Bada-Ul-Khalq).

[SubhanAhmad]

Salam,

I will also share my opinion on this topic because of this topic there are now many sects in Muslim ummah. Definitely, sects are not good for our Deen.

Anyway, I will say, all sects agree that Prophet (sws) has Ilm-ul-Ghaib to the extent God has given him. However, it is only few sects which say, Prophet (sws) has unlimited Ilm-ul-Ghaib.

My question to such sects is what will they answer to God on Day of Judgment, when God will assemble all the messengers and ask this.

[Be warned of] the Day when God will assemble the messengers and say, "What was the response you received?" They will say, "We have no knowledge. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen"

Quran 5:109

[arzooemadinah]

hanifbeg, on 24 February 2008 - 06:58 PM, said:

Salam,

ILM-E-GHAIB ka inkaar KUFAR hai


Q : ILM-E-GHAIB kya hai ?

A : ILM-E-GHAIB, future may honay walay WAAQIYAAT hain.

Q : Kya hum ALLAH-TALA ko GHAIB keh saktay hain ?

A : HAAN, kyun k ALLAH-TALA ki zaat MAKHFEE hai, is liyay.

Q : Hum ko ALLAH-TALA ki zaat k baray mai kaisay pata chala ?

A : hum ko ALLAH-TALA kay baray mai pyaray nabi (s.a.w) nay bataya.

Q : is ka matlab yay howa kay agar pyaray nabi (s.a.w) ki zaat nahi hoti,
to hum ko ALLAH-TALA ki zaat k baray may pata nahi chalta ?

A : jee haan offcourse, ap nay sahi farmaya.To sabit yay howa k ALLAH-TALA ki zaat GHAIB hai.

hum ko ALLAH-TALA k baray mai pyaray nabi (s.a.w) say pata chala.

jis nay pyaray nabi (s.a.w) kay ILM-E-GHAIB ka inkaar kiya...goya.

us nay ALLAH-TALA ki zaat ko man-nay say INKAAR kiya.

aur jo ALLAH-TALA ko man-nay say INKAAR karay.

wo KAAFIR nahi to aur kiya hai ?

Allah Hafiz ...

Allah kay bary main hameen sab nabion nay batya hay lakin kiya sab kay pass ilam e gaib hay yes un sab kay pass ilam e gaib hay lakin kion kay nabi akhuruzman saw khatimanabi hain un kay pass sab nabion say ziada ilam e gaib hay jis say koi inkar nahe kerta hay lakin still utna hi jitna Allah subhan nay un ko sikhiya hay , insanon main un kay pass sab say ziada ilam e gaib hay lakin Allah kareem nay still boht si bateen sirf apny ikhtyar main rukhi hain .

pehly yeh sekhoo mukaml eman kiya hay peda hoty hi yeh sekhny lug jaty hoo kon kafir hay kis ka eman kum hay etc epny eman ki to hifazat karoo or jin topics per behas ki zarorat nahen un say parheez karoo .

[followerof.mohammad]

Assalamu-Aliykum,
Only Allah (SWT) has the knowledge of unseen.
While the meaning of Messanger (Nabi) is one who gives news about unseen. Indeed All the Messangers and our beloved Prophet Mohammad(pbuh) has the knowledge of unseen. But, they don't know the Unseen (Ilm-ul-ghaib) by there own. He is the one and only Almighty ALLAH who gives them the news of unseen. Because prophets do not say by themselves, they say what they hear by Almighty Allah.
"Nor does he(messanger) speak from (his own) inclination. It is not but a revelation revealed(to him)" (Surah Najm, ayah 3-4)
Only Allah knows the unseen(Ghaib) not prophets. There is a limitation in Prophet's ilm. Even Gebrial Ameen knows the Ghaib but in limited quantity. Wali of Almighty Allah knows the Ghaib but in limited quantity. But their is no Limitation of Almighty ALLAH's knowledge (ilm). If you read Surah Kahf (verse 60-82) you will conclude that Khidr knows what Prophet Moses don't. And in general Prophet Moses know what Khidr don't because, He is one of the greatest Prophet of Allah and Hazrat Khidr is one of the greatest Allah's Wali. So, it is Allah who gives his servants the news of unseen. Allah alone is (A'lam-ul-Ghaib) knower of unseen.
Allah said,"(Allah is) the Knower of the unseen, and He does not disclose His (knowledge of) unseen to anyone" (Al Jinn,ayah 26)

Allah said,"Say (Oh Mohammad!), "None in the heavens and earth knows the unseen except Allah , and they do not perceive when they will be resurrected." (Al Naml, ayah 65)

Alllah said,"And with Him are the keys of the unseen, none knows them except Him. And He(Allah) knows what is on the land and in the sea. Not a leaf falls but that He knows it. And no grain is there within the darknesses of the earth and no moist or dry (thing) but that it is (written) in a clear record". (Al Anaam, ayah 59)

Even the prophets will claim that the Allah has the knowledge of unseen.
Allah said,"(Be warned of) the Day when Allah will assemble the messengers and say, "What was the response you received?" They will say, "We have no knowledge. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen" (Al Ma'ida, ayah 109) Also read Surah Ma'ida verse 116-119 where Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will himself declared that Allah knows everything(even unseen) no doubt about that.

Allah said,"Say(O! Mohammad), "I am only a man like you, but it has been revealed to me that your god is one God". (Al Kahf, ayah 110) proving that the knowledge prophets have in actual is the knowledge of Almighty Allah.

PROOFES FROM SAHIH HADITHS;
The Great Siddiqa Hazrat A'yesha(may Allah pleased with him) narrates,"Whoever tells you that he(prophet Mohammad) knows what will happen tomorrow,so he is lying.” Then she recited, “No person knows what he will earn tomorrow.(Al Luqman, verse 34)” Source, Al Bukhari shareef, # 4477
Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The noblest of the angelic Messengers, Jibreel, asked the noblest and the leader of the human Messengers, Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), “Tell me about the Hour.” He said: “The one who is asked about it is does not know any more about it than the one who is asking” meaning, just as you have no knowledge of it, I have no knowledge of it either.
Allah knows the best !
Saying that prophet dont have knowledge of unseen is kufr but comparing prophet's ilm with Almighty Allah's ilm is shirk(be careful about it). So, quit making baseless aqeedah about our beloved Prophet (sAw).

[followerof.mohammad]

Assalamu-Aliykum,
Only Allah (SWT) has the knowledge of unseen.
While the meaning of Messanger (Nabi) is one who gives news about unseen. Indeed All the Messangers and our beloved Prophet Mohammad(pbuh) has the knowledge of unseen. But, they don't know the Unseen (Ilm-ul-ghaib) by there own. He is the one and only Almighty ALLAH who gives them the news of unseen. Because prophets do not say by themselves, they say what they hear by Almighty Allah.
"Nor does he(messanger) speak from (his own) inclination. It is not but a revelation revealed(to him)" (Surah Najm, ayah 3-4)
Only Allah knows the unseen(Ghaib) not prophets. There is a limitation in Prophet's ilm. Even Gebrial Ameen knows the Ghaib but in limited quantity. Wali of Almighty Allah knows the Ghaib but in limited quantity. But their is no Limitation of Almighty ALLAH's knowledge (ilm). If you read Surah Kahf (verse 60-82) you will conclude that Khidr knows what Prophet Moses don't. And in general Prophet Moses know what Khidr don't because, He is one of the greatest Prophet of Allah and Hazrat Khidr is one of the greatest Allah's Wali. So, it is Allah who gives his servants the news of unseen. Allah alone is (A'lam-ul-Ghaib) knower of unseen.
Allah said,"(Allah is) the Knower of the unseen, and He does not disclose His (knowledge of) unseen to anyone" (Al Jinn,ayah 26)

Allah said,"Say (Oh Mohammad!), "None in the heavens and earth knows the unseen except Allah , and they do not perceive when they will be resurrected." (Al Naml, ayah 65)

Alllah said,"And with Him are the keys of the unseen, none knows them except Him. And He(Allah) knows what is on the land and in the sea. Not a leaf falls but that He knows it. And no grain is there within the darknesses of the earth and no moist or dry (thing) but that it is (written) in a clear record". (Al Anaam, ayah 59)

Even the prophets will claim that the Allah has the knowledge of unseen.
Allah said,"(Be warned of) the Day when Allah will assemble the messengers and say, "What was the response you received?" They will say, "We have no knowledge. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen" (Al Ma'ida, ayah 109) Also read Surah Ma'ida verse 116-119 where Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will himself declared that Allah knows everything(even unseen) no doubt about that.

Allah said,"Say(O! Mohammad), "I am only a man like you, but it has been revealed to me that your god is one God". (Al Kahf, ayah 110) proving that the knowledge prophets have in actual is the knowledge of Almighty Allah.

PROOFES FROM SAHIH HADITHS;
The Great Siddiqa Hazrat A'yesha(may Allah pleased with him) narrates,"Whoever tells you that he(prophet Mohammad) knows what will happen tomorrow,so he is lying.” Then she recited, “No person knows what he will earn tomorrow.(Al Luqman, verse 34)” Source, Al Bukhari shareef, # 4477
Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The noblest of the angelic Messengers, Jibreel, asked the noblest and the leader of the human Messengers, Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), “Tell me about the Hour.” He said: “The one who is asked about it is does not know any more about it than the one who is asking” meaning, just as you have no knowledge of it, I have no knowledge of it either.
Allah knows the best !
Saying that prophet dont have knowledge of unseen is kufr but comparing prophet's ilm with Almighty Allah's ilm is shirk(be careful about it) Prophet himself have no authority for their Knowledge. So, quit making baseless aqeedah about our beloved Prophet (sAw).