[Tahir-Riaz]

Asalamo Alaikum to all brothers and sisters.
I just received an email from a YaNabi.com user who pointed me towards some very unfortunate allegations against Mufakir-e-Islam, Pir Syed Abdul Qadir Jilani. Let me just quote you the emailed text:

One Sunni Brother posts on the deporting Sunnis site:
Point is very clear, He used wrong words for Imam Ghazali and the other so called scholar when someone can talk about imam ghazali like that no matter what knowledge he's got its useless, Even Dr Tahir Qadri hasn't said these kind of things even though alot of sunni ulema dislike him,
 
Also Liwaa ul Hamd in Hazrat Ali's Hand according to them ,

Ummahatul Momineen not in Ahlebait according to them,

I have spoke to many ulema such as Alama Saeed Asad and the list go's on. I hope it's much clear this time. Also can any brother tell us why did he say such things about Imam Ghazali? As alot of sunni ulema have asked.

This is followed by a lengthy discussion which I am not going to quote. I have omitted one irrelevant issue which only damages the Sunni unity.

The conception of ethnocentrism present among some Abus of Internet is, fairly speaking, mind blowing. I still remember the last stunt these people improvised by claiming that Mufakir-e-Islam uttered a "kufria" statement by reciting poetry.

The aura of this blunder is still present with us and yet again they indulge into a new one. Anyhow let me make a request to my beloved Sunni brothers who are infected by the parasite of bigotry:

Option 1
Please ask scholars who strongly disagree with Hazrat Shaibs teachings to compile a judicial fatwa for the alleged comments which they regard as problematic or outside the fold of Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaat.

Option 2
Please formulate a formal request for elaboration on issues which you regard as problematic or outside the fold of Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaat.

Please don't forget to include your contact information. We are not in habit of chasing Abus on Internet, so please add some substance to your subversive allegations.

You can publish your compilation on your website or send it by post to the following address:

Pir Syed Abdul Qadir Jilani
Dar-ul-Uloom Qadria Jilania
12 East Avenue
Walthamstow
E17
London UK
Phone: 02085204121

If a Muslim Mother has nursed you then please, just for once, be the man/scholar you pretend to be.

I can promise you a response within 3 days. If you're quick we might be able to arrange something this Sunday.

InshaAllah!

Ya Ali

Tahir Riaz 

[Tahir-Riaz]

Anyone want to see how these political animals frame Sunni Scholars against each other?

"I have spoke to many ulema such as Alama Saeed Asad and the list go's on."

Alama Saeed Asad: It is an honor for me that Mufakir-e-Islam chants Subhan Allah during my lecture

O Sunni, you are nothing but shame to your name!

Tahir Riaz

[Tahir-Riaz]

"Also Liwaa ul Hamd in Hazrat Ali's Hand according to them ,"

Flag in the hands of Hazrat Maula Ali!
A documentary by Mufakire Islam addressing the following issues: On the Day of Judgment the flag of Sarware Qainat Hazrat Muhammad  will be in the hands of Hazrat Ali (ra). Definition of Ahle Rasool (Syeeds) Play File

[Tahir-Riaz]

Written by another user: Mufakir-e-Islam teaches Tafzili akida:
Ahlus Sunnah believe that Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddiq radhi Allahu anhu is the most afzal (greatest) in the Ummah bar none and anyone who does not agree with this is an innovator [mubtadi'] and mislead [gumrah] and if he prefers Hazrat Ali over Hazrat Abu Bakr he is a Tafzili. He is NOT however a kafir and never have I claimed that.


Conjuncture of limited knowledge and narrow-mindedness has induced many religious dogmas. Did you know that the thesis above advocates following pious predecessors as mislead?
- Hazrat Abu Huraira (ra)
- Hazrat Salman Farsi (ra)
- Hazrat Mikdat (ra)
- Hazrat Zaid Bin Arkam (ra)
- Hazrat Abu Said Khuzri (ra)
- Hazrat Abuzar Ghefari (ra)
- Hazrat Jabir Ibne Abullah Ansari (ra)
- Hazrat Amar Yasir (ra)
- Hazrat Hassan Bin Tabit (ra)
- Hazrat Abu Aswat Dholi (ra)
- Hazrat Imam Malik (ra)
- Hazrat Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal (ra)
- Hazrat Sheikh Shahab-ul-Din Suharwardi (ra)
- Hazrat Jami (ra)

We at YaNabi.com invite Muslims towards consensus, but at the same time urge restraint towards statements which utter disrespect towards any Sahabi or Awliya Allah.


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Tahir Riaz
YaNabi Team

[Tahir-Riaz]

Siddque Akbar (ra) - Most praiseworthy after Prophets


Muslims throughout history have been victimized by heedless scholars whose cognitive self bear more affinity towards earthly means than Islamic values. These individuals are a reality even today and they regularly infect Muslim minds with venomous doctrines based on ill-founded figments of their imagination.

This lecture is being republished in order to counter false allegations being attributed towards leading Islamic figures of our time.

Tahir Riaz
YaNabi Team

[Tahir-Riaz]

Ummahatul Momineen not in Ahlebait according to them,

Another lie, learn the truth by watching the lecture bellow.

Mufakir-e-Islam presents years of studies in a 30 minutes session and authoritatively establishes the different classifications of Ahl-ul-Bayt in relation to Ahl-ul-Bayte Tathir

- Ahl-ul-Bayte Nasab
- Ahl-ul-Bayte Sabab
- Ahl-ul-Bayte Khidmat
- Ahl-ul-Bayte Weladat


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I can fly like a butterfly and sting like a bee
But there is nothing like saying

Ya Ali

Tahir

[Tahir-Riaz]

Mufakir-e-Islam was asked to do a lecture about Hazrat Amire Muaiwya (ra) but he chose not to.

It is more suitable that during a gathering of Melad-un-Nabi one speaks about the excellence of The Holy Prophet .

Please study the difference between Melad-un-Nabi and Melad-un-Muawiya, you have probably the terms confused.

Cheap political currency, how low will you sink?

PS!Please note that this is just first line support out of my head. We are anxiously waiting for your judicial FATWA.

Tahir

[Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam]

Aslama o alaykhum...

JazakALLAH Tahir Bahi that you opened this topci here i am also currently active on that topic and i suggest every time that we contact Shaykh Saab ourselves and clear the misunderstadings out (if any exist) rather than flying abuses around.

But brother Tahir i to had doubt on some work of Hazrat Saab but they were cleared as time went on and ALHUMDULLILAH i have no right to abuse a schlor like him as he is knowledgable and very very good at his work. But tahir bahi is it true that their was a video posted in Mods section of yanabi and ***** or one of them where Hazrat Saab disagreed and disrespect Imam Ghazali and while other schlor done the same in the presents of Hazrat Saab this is what i have heard lately and i just want to know how true this is.

Regarding Hazrat Abu bakar/forum/i/expressions/ra.gif he is the most praiseworthy after rasool /forum/i/expressions/pbuh.gifas confirmed ijema and hazrat saab himself. Regarding Hazrat Ayesha /forum/i/expressions/ra.gif the lecture is enough to let someone know what the misunderstanding were. JAZAKALLAH for porviding this as it will help clear many peoples mind of and including me even thoguh my dounts on some topic were cleared many weeks back.

Wasalam

[Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam]

Originally posted by: Tahir Riaz

Mufakir-e-Islam was asked to do a lecture about Hazrat Amire Muaiwya (ra) but he chose not to.It is more suitable that during a gathering of Melad-un-Nabi one speaks about the excellence of The Holy Prophet . Please study the difference between Melad-un-Nabi and Melad-un-Muawiya, you have probably the terms confused.Cheap political currency, how low will you sink?PS!Please not that this is just first line support out of my head. We are anxiously waiting for your judicial FATWA.Tahir

Aslama o alaykhum...

Tahir bahi before you start abusing .... this was me who asked this as i asked the brother to provide me with a video lecture on Hazrat Muwawiya i did not mention at Milad un Nabi or anything just asked for a video as I want to clear my misunderstanding out on this topic to like on some issue i have already done so.

Cheap political currency, how low will you sink? LOL good quote but ALHUMDULLILAH it wasnt for currency but for education purpose and to clear misunderstaning out.

Wasalam

[Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam]

Aslama o alaykum...

once again Tahir bahi this is for you as in your thread you used a quote to say it is poltical currency cheap shot which i thougth was un-true and aimed at me as i was the user who asked about Hazrat Muwawiya but i will now COPY and PASTE my post from the forum where i wrote the following:

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Aslama o alaykhum...

It seems that everyone is coming out with their opnion some are trying to defend and other is trying to show whats HAQ.

Hazrat Abdul Qadri jalini he is a man of great knowledge and MAY ALLAH give him more knowledge but the matter of fact is HE IS HUMAN and he can make mistakes. If Hazrat saab has spoken against Imam Ghazali which i have also been informed of then i believe it is totally wrong unless Hazrat Saab can clear doubts by answering question on what basis he went agaisnt Imam Ghazali e.g Yazid but it does not give them the right to abuse them and agree with other people who uttered total rubbish agaisnt Imam Ghazali.

I found myself that their were somethings agaisnt Hazrat saab that were not true and i came to conculusion that Hazrat saab has been made a target. but their are some point where hazrat saab has gone over the top and it needs clarification.

Also hazrat saab wants to change the people to use HAq Sub Yaar so it include Hazrat Muwawiay rda to do rud of shiahs then is it true that Hazrat Saab was asked to do speech on hazrat Muwawaiy rda and he rejected to do it? (if so please do provide me one lecture or book of hazrat saab on hazrat muwawiya rda to clear my doubts).

About Alama Saeed Asad MASHALLAH he is top class schlor who has done great for sunnis.

Regarding other AHle SUnnah schlors their are majoirty who have doubts on Tahir Ul Qadri and Hazrat saab and i believe the solution is to sit down with schlors and clear their misconception out HOW HARD COULD IT GET??

INSHALLAH hope to see you all in Sunni Conference "Syed irfan hussain shah saab" going to be their so its something special...

Wasalam

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Please let me know how i disrespected Hazrat Saab i just asked for Schlors to be contacted to clear misconceoption out.

I hope brother tahir that you dont put me in that catergory.

Wasalam

[RajaQadriJilani]

There is no contemporary Scholar like Hazrat Mufakire Islam.

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Date: 2007.06.29
YaNabi Moderator: Sunni Revolution
Comments: No emotional tantrums please!
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[Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam]

Nice manners...

[objective-enquirer]

Abu Hamid ghazali did defend and pray for Yazeed's maghfirat in his books hence the response. nasibis do use the reference of Ghazali in their books to defend yazeed!

so would say on that score sunni soldier of islam that Ghazali was wrong? if you say he was right then we do not have any argument. and if you say he was not then still we do not have any argument....

[trueaqeedah]

Brothers

why are we disputing with someone who believes Muffakir E Islam is wrong,

pls ask that he name the time the place and let Huzoor chew him and his scholars up.....

Rest assured i dont think thier is anyone in the Whole of HInd, Europe and UK that has the assests required to challenge this Beautiful Son of My Ghaus Ul Wara RA....

hes not gnna accept, if he does i am willing to provide the venue, the food, the transport ... for any such challenge and the LIVE FEED to YANABI....

truly they say ' Haq aur Sadaqat ki nishani... Abdul Qadir Gillani....

wa salaam

Saraj Q

[Secular-Revolution]

Originally posted by: Sunni Soldier Of Islam


Hazrat Abdul Qadri jalini he is a man of great knowledge and MAY ALLAH give him more knowledge but the matter of fact is HE IS HUMAN and he can make mistakes. If Hazrat saab has spoken against Imam Ghazali which i have also been informed of then i believe it is totally wrong unless Hazrat Saab can clear doubts by answering question on what basis he went agaisnt Imam Ghazali


Yes brother. I hear what you are saying. It was totally out of line because of the simple reason,

Mufakir-e-Islam   = human
Imam Ghazali (ra) = god

How can a human speak against a god. It is not but blasphemy!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you for clearing that up.

[oxonian]

assalamu alaykum

I think that instead of getting personal and mentioning peoples mothers etc. the best thing would be for someone to ask Huzoor Qibla Mufakkir e Islam to give a short lecture explaining his views on hazrat imam ghazali rahmatullah alayhi and if he would clarify his opinion on the following statement
which he made in that video:
"Can Shah Sahib substantiate Imam Ghazali's "ahl-e-bayt se dushmani", especially in light of Murtada Zabidi's works on Imam Ghazali? What is Shah Sahib's defence of his criticism of Imam Ghazali?"
then that would settle the matter. BTW, it wasn't brother aH who was causing fitna but some person calling himself 'sunni tehreek'.

[objective-enquirer]

here is just a portion of abu hamid ghazali's view on yazeed( ***** beshumar)

"AS REGARDS SAYING (RADIALLAHU ANHA) AFTER THE NAME OF YAZID, THIS IS NOT ONLY PERMISSIBLE BUT COMMENDABLE. IT IS RATHER INCLUDED IN OUR DUA WHEN WE PRAY FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF ALL MUSLIMS AND YAZID WAS CERTAINLY A MOMIN (BELIEVER)." ( ,BERIRUT, P. 288).

the actual beef is NOT with Mufakkir e Islam Syed Abdul Qadir Jilani(madda zillo hul aali) but rather under this pretext it is defence of Yazeed!!!!

[Madad-Ya-Rasulullah-saw]

As salaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

What was Imaam Ghazali's basis for saying yazid was a Mumin? Never heard that in my life before.

[oxonian]

brother objective enquirer, if you read the post on ***** from which you've taken this excerpt it is clearly not a 'defence' of yazeed paleed la'aanti but a request for clarification on whether the above alleged quote from imam ghazali is authentic or not. if it is true he did say that, then, his greatness in other areas notwithstanding, it would have to be admitted that his views on yazeed were unacceptable...

[Ya-Husayn]

Salaam, The allegations made against Mufakkir-e-Islam need to be answered as he is a man of great knowledge. A prominent and influential figurehead in the Ahlus-Sunnah-Wal-Jamat today and i believe disagreements on issues such as;1) Him not presenting a lecture on Muawiya or 2) Him believing that Imam Ghazalis position on Yazeed Laanati is wrong are fundamentally non problematic issues that have no concern to the way a muslim lives his life in regards to Islamic law. This is because for me personally Yazeed holds no influence in the sense that i do not see it as imperative to read his biograpghy and his worldly achievements. Him martrying Imam Hussain AS is enough proof for me to avoid him.

As brother OE said the problem is why Muffakir-e-Islam is disputing the defence of Yazeed Lanati!!!

May Allah forgive me if i have said anything wrong