[Abdul-Hamid]

Aslamu Alaikum

I think the best thing was to let them in and hold a dialogue, thats the weakness of our brothers from the ahla sunnah that they dont let deviants in our mosques and let them try out their so called tabligh then they we should thrash them with our debates and send them either packing or accepting the true aqeedah.

wasllaam

[shahabtahir]

what the topic that you peiple are discussing on this forum.... this is the only difference between us and the people who dont know about islam........

[Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam]

HOLD A DIALOUGE??? is this a joke

Brothers and sisters if you look in YANABI library thier are few debates that were held with Deobandi schlors also their are numbers of other debates between Deobandi's and Ahle Sunnah where they have been defeated and proven wrong.... but do they change NO THEY CARRY ON but few do accept and change but majority still carry on...

We let them in our Masjid thats fine but them to give lectures on anything is not acceptable.. we holding Dislouge with them is not a kids play... to hold a dialouge we have to have people who are professional MUNAZIRS and you dont find them everywhere .... the IMAMS of Masjis are not MUNAZIRS they give lectures and teach people Quran and Sunnah....

Please people learn about the histroy facts about DEOBANDIS and other deviants where the deviants have been proven wrong left right centre but they carry on... it is like having a dialouge with a wall thats alll....

MAY ALLAH MAKE OUR IMAAN STRONG AND GUIDE THESE DEVIANTS>....

Their is hadeeth which i cant remember clearly but the message form it was : supporting a person who is wrong and not refuting him, you become worser then him,.... INSHALLAH iw ill get exact wordings...

AND MUBARAK TO ALL MASJIDS WHO REJECTED THESE DEVIANTS>>>

ALLAH HU AKBAR

LETS SEE IF THEY LET US IN THEIR MASJIDS??

[HAFIZSAHIB]

MASHALLAH good news. They r not welcome anywhere, but minhaj ul quran let them enter in there mosque anyway... Brother Qasim Shocking remarks, if we hate someone it is not for ourself but we hate them because they have a filthy aqeedah for the Prophet (Sallaho Alahii Wassalam). Also Brother if u r mureed of Huzoor Ghous Paak then u need to study there book gunyatut taalibeen. It is stated clear there that u should have no link with such people, dont eat with them, dont read there Janazah etc. Also Look at books of Imam e Ahle Sunnat. When It comes to Aqeedah then no comprimise !!!!! About 2 weeks ago yasir hameed cricket player took part in a deobandi chilla. lol Thanks to saeed Anwar the team has turned in to Chilla Group. lol Inzamam father is sunni as he is a peer as the brother stated before but he is also Chilla Expert. lol Allah Hafiz

[shakil]

salaam

When talking about letting these deviants into our masjids we need to consider the effect it has on the wider audience..as our ulema will not be present when them vulnerable youth come out of the masjid and think they have gained alot from these deviants..and will go out and buy there cds/books or will look out for other mehfils these people are attending and will then attend them mehfils,not knowing whether it was a sunni masjid or a najdis.Will we be to blame for this as we let them have a platform in our masjid.

As they say we have plenty of ours who could to tabligh for us..we dont need them.

Allah hafiz

[Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam]

I was wondering why Inzamam, Saeed who both have beard but no noor of having beard (e.g Sheikh Nazim SUBHANALLAH ).... DUH becuase they are deobandis;;;;

[shakil]

salaam

Yes nearly the whole cricket team look like that...

They say been in the presence of the pious is like good musk,,,you will either smell like them or buy the must off them,,, but the presence of the bad is like a hot furnace and you will smell like fire or look burned in that company,,

I Will leave ur imagination to who the cricket team have as their company

Allah hafiz

[ReVoLvEr]

Originally posted by: amber hussain

its good to here thisthere are so many of them lot in our college. i hate them all
is this what ahle sunnah teaches? Hate!

[shakil]

salaam

Ahles sunnat teaches the truth..not hatred.

allah hafiz

[Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam]

Originally posted by: ReVoLvEr !

Originally posted by: amber hussainits good to here thisthere are so many of them lot in our college. i hate them allis this what ahle sunnah teaches? Hate!


Brother ... did the other brother say that he hates them because AHLE SUNNAH taught him to hate them.... he probably hates them because they have no respect for our Rasool and the ones i know they have no respect for anyone who is not like them..... so i agree hating people who degrade out Rasool while calling themselves Muslims....

I dont hate christians or anything other religions people because they are not Muslims and they can practice what they want but calling yourself MUSLIMS and degrading the Rasool and other deviants beliefs i hate them to.... unless they are willing to learn and have respect for other very few of them...

ALLAH HAFFIZ

[Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam]

Originally posted by: Mohammed Shakil

salaamYes nearly the whole cricket team look like that...They say been in the presence of the pious is like good musk,,,you will either smell like them or buy the must off them,,, but the presence of the bad is like a hot furnace and you will smell like fire or look burned in that company,,I Will leave ur imagination to who the cricket team have as their companyAllah hafiz

Brother Shakil very well said ... and i know exactly who they follow lol

[Yaseen-Dziaee]

Those who wish to stop people from sending durood & salaam upon Muhammad Those who wish to stop the moulood, those who wish to stop people from respecting the Awliya Allah, those who have hatred for the Ahle Bayt & Sahaba we should stay far away from them, these are the people who are misguided

Aala Hazrat Imam Ahmed Raza says that it is haraam & dangerous to associate with the deviants because there is a chance of you getting mislead

RasoolAllah states

إياكم و إياهم لا يضلونكم و لا يفتنونكم

Keep them far from you, keep yourself far from them, so that they may not mislead you, and put you in disarray.

[shakil]

someone asked the question to sayyid shabir hussain hafizabadi

sab shia kehte hain wahabhi kafir,,,sab wahabhi kehte hain shia kafir.
sache koun hai...dawno sache hain he replied..

[rehansayyed]

We Ahle Sunnah people (sunnies) love people for ALLAH and Nabi-e-Moohtasham and hate If some one has wrong belief's for ALLAH and Nabi-e-Pak


KI MOHAMMED SE WAFA TOO HUM TERE HAI
YEH ZAMI KYA CHEEZ HAI LAUHOO KALAM TERE HAI

[Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam]

Originally posted by: Mohammed Shakil

someone asked the question to sayyid shabir hussain hafizabadisab shia kehte hain wahabhi kafir,,,sab wahabhi kehte hain shia kafir.sache koun hai...dawno sache hain he replied..

LOL simple and honest and true answer ....

I have been told that sayyid shabir hussain hafizabadi use to be a Shia before but he then had a dialouge with a Sunni alim and he changed. I have one of his video where he tells the crowd that "All you SUNNi Your Aqeedah is correct, I confirm that now with you"

MAY ALLAH GUIDE ALL THESE DEVIANTS

[Abdul-Hamid]

Aslamu alaikum

What i meant was that we should try to make that effort of bringing them back to to the ahlasunnah aqeedah i understand that they are deviants but one should know that Allah azzawal can guide people to the truth, the issue is why dont we let them in but dont let them do their so called tabligh but have a discussion, i mean not a proper debate but it should be in such a way that they are defeated and see the truth, your telling me that a mosque imam cant even have a general discussion with them then what is the point of having such imams who cant defend the true aqeedah from such deviants. These people (tablighi jammat-caravan of gypsies and their Bible- fazaile amaal and the dark army of the 'salafis) are well organised that we are so behind in what they do, they have targetted the youth more and i have seen a lot of people i knew have gone to that side and the only thing i see is our molvis just like to crack that speaker, there should be be sunni aqeedah classes in english and other programs that enable the youth to grasp and be aware of the deviant groups.

[rehansayyed]

Brother Abdul Hamid,


Alhamdulillah Summa Alhamdulillah

We have our Ahle Sunnah Tehrik Dawat-e-Islami and we have have our Madani Qafila travel from place to place you can join the madani tehrik and contribute in the very best to the Ahle sunnah work.

[Abdul-Hamid]

Originally posted by: Rehan Sayyed Attari

Brother Abdul Hamid,Alhamdulillah Summa AlhamdulillahWe have our Ahle Sunnah Tehrik Dawat-e-Islami and we have have our Madani Qafila travel from place to place you can join the madani tehrik and contribute in the very best to the Ahle sunnah work.

Aslamu alaikum

I understand the importance of your concern but what im saying is that the sunni aqaid classes are far important and the other thing is that most of dawate islami communication is urdu and i have met a lot of brothers who want to attend programmes that are in english becuase we are not in pakistan but in the U.K and since we live in this land we should propagate the in the same language of this land to the youth who have been bought up with this lingo.

waslaam

[Fading-Light]

Assalaamu Alaikum,

Dawat-e-Islami spreads the Sunnah of the Prophet in both english and in urdu. In most Dawat-e-Islami mehfils what you may find is that we have both urdu and english speakers. English for the younger brothers and urdu for the Bazurg.

Majority of the work that we do in the UK is in english but we cannot leave urdu due to the elderly and even younger brother who prefer the urdu language.

I am not sure which gatherings you have attended in the UK held by Dawat-e-Islami but we do bothe English and Urdu. Both areer equally important in their own right.

And you are right one should take a class if he/she wants to learn more about our Aqaid. If not there are many scholars out there who do preach the Sunni Aqaid, if these brothers and sisters could attain such scholars speeches then brilliant. What we must relaise is that not all the scholars will come to us but we must go to them.

May Allah Az'zawajal keep us away from these najdi creatures and their evil ways. Ameeen

[Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam]

Aslama o alaykhum

Brother Abdul Hamid, Alhumdullilah in our Masjid their is english classess on hadeeth and Fiqh Hanifi, and also in many other areas in London. Their are plenty in North of england but we AHLE SUNNAH  give lectures etc etc we dont brainwash people with misleading interprtation.

We know that many youth have gone misguided but brother please research in detail and you will see many of deobandi.wahabi youth have been guided i have mentioned this before, but you be shocked to learn how many brothers here were x wahabi and deobandi but ALHUMDULLILAH we dont need to advertise and get all over exicited like these deviant do.

These deviant have to much money and goverments supporting them, their is hardly any goverment thats support AHLE SUNNAH but ALHUMDULLILAH we dont need no goverment we need peoples help and ALHUMDULLILAH the work is being done by ULEMA ahle sunnah. thats why everyone is getting aware of deviant aqeedahs because of qork of AHLE SUNNAH ULEMA.

Brother holding dialouge with deviant our IMAMS in Masjid our capable but brother it is not as easy as that, if you request someone to hold dialouge you probably wont get answer and if you invite them and tell them to give lecture and then suddenly hold a dialouge...THEY WILL CALL us two face and will reject whatever we say in a context "that you called us here for lecture not dialouge, we have no evidence with us to prove you wrong" etc etc....deviants go so far to protect their deviant thoughts.... had experince many times....

Anyway i think the main topic was Saeed ansar and other deviant been chucked out of Masjids well that was good job and should be end of topic

ALLAH HAFFIZ

forgive me if i have said anything wrong