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Posted 29 April 2006 - 08:17 PM (#1) User is offline   Khaliin 

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Hei I have lots of question about women in Arabia..

   Where is civil rights in your country, I mean us, womens.
 Why is sou much  grave injustice, I dont understand, how it can be !
   We are the same like everybody, we have the same rights, sou why its in Islam otherways ??
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,344374,00.htmlHundreds of women get shot, burned, strangled, stoned, poisoned, beheaded or stabbed every year in Islam ridden countries because their male relatives believe their actions have soiled the family name. They die, so family honor may survive. According to this tribal and religious practice, woman is a man's possession and a reflection of his honor. It is the man's honor that gets tarnished if a woman is 'loose'. The murderers and their defenders refer to this verse of the Koran that allows husbands to beat their wives: "As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill - conduct, admonish them, refuse to share their beds, beat them", the Koran, chapter 4, verse 34. Honor killing is a tribal practice that has been incorporated in the religion of Islam, because of its anti - women nature and misogynist philosophy. And the law is usually on the man's side, not only in the Middle Eastern and the Central Asian countries, but shamefully, in the Western countries too. They often letting murderers go unpunished or with a light sentence.

  And I read a book ( I promse I will finde how was the name of book) there ona girl in Jeemen she escape and worte book. Maybe you know !


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Posted 29 April 2006 - 08:52 PM (#2) User is offline   laila- 

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islam teaches peace amongest husband and wife and never will it give more rights to the husband then the wife, islam don't teach to bully wives nor does it teach to treat wives in such a manner where the wife has no respect or is unjusticed lets go back in time where women use to get burried alive where was the western justice to women then it was islam and only islam that stopped this and gave women equal rights and gave them power to be treated with justice nower days what you see and hear in the media is all crap they blame islam for some people's ignarant actions men who go out there and abuse the women are going against the teachings of the Qu'ran because islam did not give permission to brutally abuse women, and about the verses in the quran you can not just pick out verses and say look this is the unjustice women in islam get you have to read the whole scripture to get the proper meaning to what is being said because when you do this without reading the scipture properly you are twisting the verses of the holy qu'ran 

i suggest that do not look at cultural and ignarant actions of people who call themselves muslims but do not follow islam properly but search and look at the actions of people who follow islam peoperly and that's the only way you are going to see how musch justice islam has given to women..  


Tereh Hajj, Namaaz, Zakatah kis karii? jai dil vich nai Pyaar Madineh Waleh Da Sallalahu Alyhe Waalyhe Wasalam, na dar dar jayah bandi eh na dukhreh sunayah bandi eh...... Allah diyah Pyaariyah Mehbooba Sallalahu Alyhe Waalyhe Wasalam Gal tereh banyah bandi eh......... " Ban ja tu bi yaar Madineh Waleh da Gal Allah Diyah Pyaariyah Naal Bandi hai!"
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Posted 29 April 2006 - 08:58 PM (#3) User is offline   laila- 

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if the muslim countries today followed exactly what the quran has said then these countries would be the peaceful countries and the most justified countries in the whole world but unfortunately the western culture has gotton more in to the muslim countries which has destroyed the whole exsistance of peace and justice if anything is to be blamed then it is the western culture.........
Tereh Hajj, Namaaz, Zakatah kis karii? jai dil vich nai Pyaar Madineh Waleh Da Sallalahu Alyhe Waalyhe Wasalam, na dar dar jayah bandi eh na dukhreh sunayah bandi eh...... Allah diyah Pyaariyah Mehbooba Sallalahu Alyhe Waalyhe Wasalam Gal tereh banyah bandi eh......... " Ban ja tu bi yaar Madineh Waleh da Gal Allah Diyah Pyaariyah Naal Bandi hai!"
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Posted 29 April 2006 - 10:15 PM (#4) User is offline   shaz4 

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Salaam sister,well said. ISLAM is about PEACE....allahafiz
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Posted 30 April 2006 - 07:57 AM (#5) User is offline   Khaliin 

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Originally posted by: laila ali

if the muslim countries today followed exactly what the quran has said then these countries would be the peaceful countries and the most justified countries in the whole world but unfortunately the western culture has gotton more in to the muslim countries which has destroyed the whole exsistance of peace and justice if anything is to be blamed then it is the western culture.........

   I ask : Why You only  follow the rules Quran. I undertand that it would be peacful country, not it is right know.. Its not about western culture or something else but I mean humang feeleings, where it is in your country.
We have ( women`s) feeling too like everybody has !!
We read the word in Pibel ( Quran) but we must take our life too..birth them here our heart
   Is it sou..
  Sorry my english is not sou good !!

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Posted 30 April 2006 - 07:58 AM (#6) User is offline   Khaliin 

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Originally posted by: sweet islam

Salaam sister,well said. ISLAM is about PEACE....allahafiz

Tell me what is PEACE for you, what it means for women ??
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Posted 30 April 2006 - 08:42 AM (#7) User is offline   QadriAttari786 

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Crime against women is wrong no matter where it occurs. It needs to be stopped. Islam prohibits violence against or oppression of anyone including women.

However, you should note that crime against women (especially sexual violence) is more common in non-Muslim countries than in Muslim countries.
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Posted 30 April 2006 - 08:47 AM (#8) User is offline   Khaliin 

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But crimes are really poppular in Muslim..
   What kinde of coutry you mean in non-muslim countryes ??

  All the best !
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Posted 30 April 2006 - 10:01 AM (#9) User is offline   QadriAttari786 

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Crime against women is wrong no matter where it occurs. It needs to be stopped. Islam prohibits violence against or oppression of anyone including women.

However, you should note that crime against women (especially sexual violence) is more common in non-Muslim countries than in Muslim countries.

Non-Muslim countries means countries where the majority of the population is not Muslim.
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Posted 30 April 2006 - 10:42 AM (#10) User is offline   Khaliin 

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Like Tyrki, or ??
  What do the coverment to stopped violence and criemes ?
   Why people and perents not  guard against it ??

   Why they scared ???
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Posted 30 April 2006 - 06:08 PM (#11) User is offline   laila- 

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Originally posted by: Cäsily Komeraan

Originally posted by: laila aliif the muslim countries today followed exactly what the quran has said then these countries would be the peaceful countries and the most justified countries in the whole world but unfortunately the western culture has gotton more in to the muslim countries which has destroyed the whole exsistance of peace and justice if anything is to be blamed then it is the western culture.........   I ask : Why You only  follow the rules Quran. I undertand that it would be peacful country, not it is right know.. Its not about western culture or something else but I mean humang feeleings, where it is in your country. We have ( women`s) feeling too like everybody has !!We read the word in Pibel ( Quran) but we must take our life too..birth them here our heart    Is it sou..  Sorry my english is not sou good !!

from what i understand you say that why only follow the teachings of the holy qu'ran i want say everyone that is gone off the rails and abuse women don't give much repect to women is because they don't only follow the qu'ran they mix it with culture and tridition and you can see already what the out comes of this are so for us muslims to follow the qu'ran properly is the only way inwhich we can give justice to each and everyone especially the women..........

human feeling's in most countries and muslim's  countries have got lostt to the cultural way of living that is why they don't have much sympathy for women and they abuse them i agree with you that women should also be heard but in a modest way not in a so called 'wastern way' where they express their veiws in away which brings baseless attention to them............

i hope i have answered your question.....
Tereh Hajj, Namaaz, Zakatah kis karii? jai dil vich nai Pyaar Madineh Waleh Da Sallalahu Alyhe Waalyhe Wasalam, na dar dar jayah bandi eh na dukhreh sunayah bandi eh...... Allah diyah Pyaariyah Mehbooba Sallalahu Alyhe Waalyhe Wasalam Gal tereh banyah bandi eh......... " Ban ja tu bi yaar Madineh Waleh da Gal Allah Diyah Pyaariyah Naal Bandi hai!"
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Posted 30 May 2006 - 02:50 PM (#12) User is offline   manunited 

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Cäsily Komeraan

keep tuned i sense your knowlege is very limited Re:muslim woman...

we'd aid u in eliminating the propaganda which has been injected by the western media

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Posted 13 June 2006 - 07:41 PM (#13) User is offline   Everlasting-devotion 

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Originally posted by: Cäsily Komeraan

Hei I have lots of question about women in Arabia..   Where is civil rights in your country, I mean us, womens. Why is sou much  grave injustice, I dont understand, how it can be !   We are the same like everybody, we have the same rights, sou why its in Islam otherways ?? http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,344374,00.htmlHundreds of women get shot, burned, strangled, stoned, poisoned, beheaded or stabbed every year in Islam ridden countries because their male relatives believe their actions have soiled the family name. They die, so family honor may survive. According to this tribal and religious practice, woman is a man's possession and a reflection of his honor. It is the man's honor that gets tarnished if a woman is 'loose'. The murderers and their defenders refer to this verse of the Koran that allows husbands to beat their wives: "As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill - conduct, admonish them, refuse to share their beds, beat them", the Koran, chapter 4, verse 34. Honor killing is a tribal practice that has been incorporated in the religion of Islam, because of its anti - women nature and misogynist philosophy. And the law is usually on the man's side, not only in the Middle Eastern and the Central Asian countries, but shamefully, in the Western countries too. They often letting murderers go unpunished or with a light sentence.  And I read a book ( I promse I will finde how was the name of book) there ona girl in Jeemen she escape and wrote book. Maybe you know !.

sis, forgive me if i'm wrong but this bit (beat your wives) does only apply if the wife is being disobedient in following the way of islam. say if a husband tells his wife over and over agin to read namaaz and she disobeys him then he is allowed to LIGHTLY hit her not so agressevely that she bleeds and bruises. islam forbids violence. by lightly i mean a light slap not something that will give them a scar and bruising. also a husband can only hit his wife for being disobedient to him when he's tried everything to get her to do what he says (in islam) and this is the only thing that he can do to get her to do the task.

think about it if a child wasn't doing what you told he or she to do and you'd tried to persuade them and the only thing left would be to hit them then would'nt you do it?

i apologise if anything i said was wrong please all ah forgive me.


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Posted 20 June 2006 - 12:16 AM (#14) User is offline   Faiza-Ali 

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Originally posted by: Cäsily Komeraan
 And I read a book ( I promse I will finde how was the name of book) there ona girl in Jeemen she escape and worte book. Maybe you know !.

I think the book u r talking about is called Burned Alive, i dont actually know the name of the author and i havent read it myself, i might do over the summer.
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Posted 20 June 2006 - 12:55 PM (#15) User is offline   zaigham 

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Cäsily Komeraan i would suggest that you read the translation of the quaran for yourself then you will realise what the Quaran teaches. there is no room for violence in islam and therfore coming to assuptions about women rights is crazy. read history about the rights of women given by islam. then come back and then have your say whether Islam is just or unjust. you will be surprised.

"What I have forbidden to you, avoid; what I have ordered you [to do], do as much of it as you can. It was only their excessive questioning and their disagreeing with their prophets that destroyed those who were before you."
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