[muslim_bin_muslim]

Is Astrology or "Ilmu-nujjoom" haram? i've heard lost of muslims telling me that its not haram. there even are astrologers who claim to be muslims.

for example, here in toronto, some community Urdu newspapers contain weekly horoscopes. and i see lots of people reading that.
also, there are some websites, for example, "www.urdupoint.com" and ""www.pehchaan.com"" with the translation (in Urdu) of Qur'aanic verser on the front page, but also have an astrology section.

i talked to this guy about it and he said astrology is not haram. the guy even gave me a couple of articles to read in which some ulemaa claim that its NOT haraam. I'll try to post those articles, Insha Allah, if i can get them again. But i know that i shouldn't believe everything that i read.

But Still,

I am confused, please clarify.

Wassalaam.

[irquadri]

Answer to your question brother

IMAM AHMED RAZA'S(radia Allahu anhu) I'LM-E-JAFAR

"I'lm-e-Jafar" refers to "The Knowledge and The Art of Prediction." Almighty ALLAH Subha nahu wa ta-aala blesses not all persons with such knowledge. It is a specialty for the Awliyah ALLAH. A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) was blessed with the gift of I'lm-e-Jafar.

Once, a certain person asked A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) concerning the approach of Qiyaamah and the arrival of Imam Mahdi (radi Allahu anhu) in the future. A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) said that Almighty ALLAH Subha nahu wa ta-aala knows of this and His Beloved Rasool (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) is also aware of this fact. After saying this A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) substantiated these facts by quoting many verses of the Glorious Quran and Ahadith of the Beloved Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) then said, "THROUGH A CERTAIN TYPE OF KNOWLEDGE, I FEEL THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT IN 1837 HIJRAH THERE WILL BE NO ISLAMIC GOVERNMENT LEFT, AND IN 1900 HIJRA IMAM MAHDI (RADI ALLAHU ANHU) WILL APPEAR". After hearing this answer, someone asked A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) if he had gained this answer through I'lm-e-Jafar. He replied that he did. A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) then said very sarcastically, "Eat the mangoes. Do not count the trees."

There was a King of Rampur whose wife was very sick. He loved her very much and was very attached to her. This King, who was a "Badd Mazhab" (one who does not follow the religion properly), sent a messenger to Barelvi Shareef with a special request. He requested A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) to predict the time and place of the death of his wife. The King's wife was, at that moment, not at her house in Rampur, but she was in a place called Nainital. A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) told the messenger to tell the King that his wife will die in Rampur in the month of Muharram. When the messenger returned to the King, he gave him the message of A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu).

With this message of A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) at the back of his mind, the King tried very hard to keep his wife away from Rampur. He did not want her to be in any way near Rampur.

It so happened that rioting broke out in Rampur. It concerned the affairs of the Kanpur Shaheed Ganj Masjid. The Governor summoned the King to meet with him urgently in Rampur. The King decided to go on his own, but his wife insisted on joining him. As soon as they reached Rampur, the King's wife suddenly died. It was also the month of Muharram. The prediction of A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) proved to be true!

KNOWLEDGE OF ASTRONOMY AND ASTROLOGY

A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) gained great expertise in the field of Astronomy and Astrology.

There was a person by the name of Mawlana Ghulam Hussain Sahib, who used to regard himself as an authority in Astrology. Once, Mawlana Ghulam Hussain Sahib visited A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu). A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) asked him, "So! What is the situation of the rain?" After working out the position of the stars, Mawlana Ghulam Sahib drew-up an astronomical table and said,"In this month there will be no rain. It will only rain in the following month." Mawlana Sahib then handed over the astronomical table to A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu). A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) examined it and said, "All the Power is by ALLAH Subha nahu wa ta-aala. If He pleases, then it may rain now." Mawlana Ghulam Hussain then said, "Are you not observing the astronomical table?" A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) said, "I am observing everything."

A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) then looked towards the clock and asked, "What time is it?" Mawlana Ghulam Hussain said, "Quarter past eleven." Sayyiduna A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) said, "That means that there is three quarters of an hour left for twelve o' clock." Saying this, A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) walked up to the grandfather clock that was in the room. With his finger he moved the big needle of the clock until it was on the twelve, thus showing twelve o'clock. The clock began to chime. A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) then said, "You said that it would take three quarters of an hour for the needle to come to twelve o' clock." The Mawlana Sahib replied, "But you were responsible for altering the position of the needle."

On hearing this, A'la Hazrat (radi Allahu anhu) said, "Almighty ALLAH Subha nahu wa ta-aala is All-powerful and He may alter the position of the stars whenever he wishes..."

A'LA HAZRAT (RADI ALLAHU ANHU) HAD NOT YET COMPLETED HIS SENTENCE WHEN IT BEGAN TO RAIN UNCONTROLLABLY.

source http://www.barkati.n...micservices.htm

[muslim_bin_muslim]

Thank you for your input, brother. But I asked if there were any "fatwas" declaring astrology to be haraam or not. I read what you wrote in response, unfortunately, it doesn't answer my question. I want to know what does Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) say about this?? Are their any Ahaadith??

Also, you mentioned about Aala Hazrat predictin about the Qiyyammah. But, as far as I know, I thought Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) when asked by a man about the Qiyyamat, said, that Only Allah Knows. and then the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) asked that man, "what have you done for Qiyyammat?" after hearing this, the man aplogized ( i think ) and left.

I do not dismiss the status of Aalaa Hazrat. I would be glad if you can provide me with any fatwa of Alaa Hazrat regarding Astrology.


Please clarify things for me.

Wassalaam.

[muslim_bin_muslim]

I would really appreciate if somebody would help me clear my head about Astrology.


Wassalaam.

[muslim_bin_muslim]

I am still waiting for somebody to answer my questions.


Wassalaam.

[Qadri-Jilani]

I heard in a speech from Allama Ahmad Nisar Baig Sahib that it was Prophet Ibrahim AS (I think it was Hazrat Ibrahim - I will get it confirmed) he could look at the stars and make certain conclusions. Howerver it was mentioned that to follow most of the people today who claim they can do this is haraam as most of it is all made up.

I will try to get you the more info.

[hubaba_sultana]

i think that it is ok as long as u genuinely dont believe in it! if they predict that is haraam if they say wat type of person u r that is different. its all wid the stars. i would advise u to search on a search engine- jon sandifer 9 star ki

or just - 9 star ki

very intersting dnt worry its definately not haraam

as i think the rasool (?) *al nia tasboog al 3amal*
which means wateva your intentions are and if they r pure they r far betta then wat u actually do!

salaam

sultana
ps plz search v.amusant

[irfanrazakhan]

salaam brothers and sisters

i think you might find this thread handy? as far as fatawas concern i think alims have issued fataws but i havent read either they tottally think the matter is haram or either the people who are going to do it are going to do it?

http://www.yanabi.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=4&threadid=2230&enterthread=y

wasalaam