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Posted 19 March 2006 - 02:09 AM (#1) User is offline   shia 

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i find this hadith again quite interesting
as it is suggesting that the prophet revealed himself astaghfarullah!

unless im mistaken

Book 003, Number 0671:

Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) was carrying along with them (his people) stones for the Ka'ba and there was a waist wrapper around him. His uncle," Abbas, said to him: 0 son of my brother! if you take off the lower garment and place it on the shoulders underneath the stones, it would be better. He (the Holy Prophet) took it off and placed it on his shoulder and fell down unconscious. He (the narrator) said: Never was he seen naked after that day.

Sahih Muslim

·  The Book of Menstruation (Kitab Al-Haid)

·  Chapter 18: UTMOST CARE FOR KEEPING-PRIVATE PARTS OF BODY CONCEALED

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 02:18 AM (#2) User is offline   Imran. 

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your si*k geezer!

If you ask one of your many beardless shia aalims even they will tell you that it was at a very young age, as a child, how does that constitute a wrong or affect infallibility? 
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Posted 19 March 2006 - 02:19 AM (#3) User is offline   Rizwan-Aziz 

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I dont know what you find interesting about that
Do not ask the Lord to guide ur footsteps If you are not willing to move ur feet
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Posted 19 March 2006 - 02:27 AM (#4) User is offline   shia 

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our IMAAN that the prophet from adam to rasool allah were infalible, and from the moment they were born they were the embodiment of allahs will, e.g. nabi isa speaking from the cradle

now a prophet no matter what age he is, is a prophet from birth (not at 40), so cannot do anything that is sinful i.e. reveling himself, as this constitues misguidance, and as he is the leader of humanity he cannot misguide, no matter what age he is

this is what i find interesting about this hadith


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Posted 19 March 2006 - 02:33 AM (#5) User is offline   paki_power_ 

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are you even muslim? and who the heck do you think you are coming here questioning the prophet ....goo look in the mirror first then come back!! solider wana be...betta watch wat u say b4 some1 chops your hed off!!
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Posted 19 March 2006 - 02:34 AM (#6) User is offline   Imran. 

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Originally posted by: shia soldier

our opinion on this is that the prophet from adam to rasool allah were infalible, and from the moment they were born they were the embodiment of allahs will, e.g. nabi isa speaking from the cradlenow a prophet no matter what age he is, is a prophet from birth (not at 40), so cannot do anything that is sinful i.e. reveling himself, as this constitues misguidance, and as he is the leader of humanity he cannot misguide, no matter what age he isthis is what i find interesting about this hadith



Are your shia children sinful at the age of 5,6,7? do you hold them sinful?

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 02:35 AM (#7) User is offline   shia 

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Mullah Naz

yeah ok pal, are you going to do it....
if you cant respond then keep quiet...

Imran Waheed

our children are not prophets...
the prophet   was a prophet...

that might have been a lttle subtle but i hope i have made it clear
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Posted 19 March 2006 - 02:36 AM (#8) User is offline   Secular-Revolution 

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Originally posted by: shia soldier
our opinion on this is that the prophet from adam to rasool allah were infalible

It is merely your opinion?

Fortunately for us it is our Iman.

Kaabay Kis Mun Se Jao Ge SR!
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Posted 19 March 2006 - 02:41 AM (#9) User is offline   shia 

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Sunni Revolution

thank you for correcting me...
thats funny if its in your imaan, then why is the contrary in your books???

i'm going to get some sleep and hope to see your responses soon. salaams and duas


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Posted 19 March 2006 - 02:42 AM (#10) User is online   Tahir-Riaz 

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Dear brother Shia Soilder, a message to you from a Solder of Ali

There are many realities in life which are Haram for a Muslim to speak about. For example the act by your parents which induced your existence is a reality. But speaking about that in public is Haram and one who does that is called Be Haja.

How can Muslims sink to these levels in order to prove a point.

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 02:46 AM (#11) User is offline   paki_power_ 

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cant respond? make me laugh!!!....

you just not worth wasting time on, i have better things to do, then to talk to a low life so called shia solider ***!!
Nah Daulat Deh,
Nah Shorat Deh,
Mujhay Bus Yai Shahadat Deh,
Keh Teray Kadmor Meh Mar Jahu,
Meh Raw Raw Kar Madinah Meh
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Posted 19 March 2006 - 02:50 AM (#12) User is online   Tahir-Riaz 

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I request my Sunni brothers to control their nerves. We have to address these issues academically. We can not deny that this Hadith is narrated in Muslim Sharif. That's why we have stressed that not every Hadith in Sahi Bukhari is Sahi.


More information will come shortly....


InshAAllah



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Posted 19 March 2006 - 03:36 AM (#13) User is offline   Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam 

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Aslama o alikhaum to my Muslim brothers only

As for this sick SHIA..... let me say something.... why are these SHia always looking into Shahih Bukhari and picking Hadeeths and totaly Misinterepting the Hadeeth and then complaining about it.... but Shia Soldier wana be tell me one thing have you ever looked in your own books how much filth it is full with about the Quran, Imam and Ahlul Bait and Sahaba and many more beliefs that are KHUFAR i never see you trying to point this out and then when we point out your books >.. you tell us that your Books have mistakes and...

IF YOU CANT DEFEND YOUR OWN BOOKS I THINK YOU SHOULD JUST KEEP QUITE AND KEEP YOUR OPNION TO YOURSELF AND CORRECT YOUR BOOKS FIRST AND FILTHY HADEETHS THEN COME TO US AND COMPLAIN

ALLAH HAFFIZ


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Posted 19 March 2006 - 04:19 AM (#14) User is offline   Secular-Revolution 

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The explanation of this Hadith will be posted in detail soon InshAllah.

In addition, two can play at this game.

How about we have a few days session of posting some Shia filth here.

Allow me to do the honours..........

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 04:27 AM (#15) User is offline   Sunni-Soldier-Of-Islam 

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SUNNI REVOLUTION BAHI PLEASE START

WE SHOULD HAVE THIS TOPIC ON SHIA FILTH AND POST UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF FILTH ABOUT SHIA BOOKS AND THEN I WILL SEE IF SHIA WILL JOIN US IN DEBATE HAHAHAHAHAHAAA THEY WILL RUN ONLY

PLEASE BE THE FORST ONE SUNNI REVOLUTION BAHI


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Posted 19 March 2006 - 04:29 AM (#16) User is offline   Secular-Revolution 

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Urdu Transliteration

Makkah Kee "Zulaikha" Bibi Ayesha Mein Kya Rakha Tha Kay Hazoor Paak Nay Apni Hum Umar Biwiyon Kay Hotay Huway Ya Dosri Jawaan Auratoon Kay Milnay Kay Bawajood Chay Saala Nanhi Amma Ji sey apnay Pachaas Baras Kay Sun Mein Shaadi Rachayee.


English Translation

"What did the Zulaikha of Makkah Bibi Ayesha possess that Hazoor Paak while having other wives of his age or having approach to other adult women married a six year old young mother/aunt."

Astaghfirullah. MazAllah.

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 04:35 AM (#17) User is offline   Secular-Revolution 

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From the above blasphemy it is obvious that if the Shia's hatred of Hazrat Ayesha  can go as far as questioning the decision of Rasool Allah to marry her then questioning a hadith is not a huge deal for them.

Also note the way their books are written.

No durood against the name of Rasool Allah anywhere.

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Sharam Tum Ko Magar Nahin Aati

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 05:31 AM (#18) User is offline   Qadri-Attari 

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Your birth was the result of your parents having sexual intercourse.

How do you feel about it?

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 06:31 AM (#19) User is offline   objective-enquirer 

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the four main books of isna ashari shia are known as matoon arba'a, namely, usool kafi, tahzeeb, man la yahzara al-faqih and istibsaar....

i admit there are things in our books that are not valid and by checking narrators and using reason we can accept and reject ahadith....we have a developed system of hadith transmision....

where as the four main books of shia contain so much explicit filth and questions about authenticity of the Qoran, and dirty things that i find it very difficult to write them here.

also there is almost non-existent information from the past, about narrators of their hadith that it is almost impossible to qualify a shia hadith as sahih...

having said that we love the twelve imams and it is unfortunate that we do not have much reports from them in sunni books but it does not mean that we also accept lies and filth about them and for them...110.


finally, majority of the ahadith in praise of ahle bayt are in our books and strangley non-existence in their four books; apart from  a handfull.

their first tafseer book is called tafseer qummi by ali bin ibraheem qummi; which the oldest book they have and is before the four books mentioned...in threre the guy gives examples(naozobillah) of verses MISSING from the Qoran and much more is in shia literature... 
 
to be fair there are a minority of decent scholars among them just as there are a minrity of wahabi scholars that are decent but this is not to suggest that this shia soldier would get away with Negative things here....
my advice is to discuss things that are common beween us and do not do this shararat.....Ya Haydar(A) 
 

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 12:31 PM (#20) User is offline   shia 

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Date: 2006.03.19
YaNabi Moderator: Sunni Revolution
Comments: Let's catch up on previous stuff
first before we move on. First you have to
start explaining your narrations too.
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