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For those who do not understand Urdu, or those without the time to go through the whole videos, can someone please give a reference insha Allah?
محمد بشر لا كالبشر
Muhammad is a man, not like man
بل هو كالياقوت بين الحجر
Nay, truly! He is like a ruby amongst stones...
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Wanting2Learn (09.02.2010)
Zarb e Haidari (08.02.2010)
Bismillairahmaaniraheem Here we go when someone praises Moula Ali (as) how does he degrade other Sahabas ? If someone praises the Holy Prophet (sawaw) how does he degrade other Prophets ? If someone praises the Holy Quran how does degrade the Torah Zabur Ingeel ? If someone praises Hz Gibraeel (as) how is he degrading other angels !. If someone was praising his father how is he degrading his uncles ?. Moula Ali (as) is not only a Sahabi but part of the Ahle Bayt (as) part of Noor e Mustafa (sawaw). It is exactly for this reason the angel will ask about Imam Ali (as) as many think they just only need to respect him just as an ordinary person. Jazak Allah - Waslaam Brother Sag-e-Darbar Jilani our maulvis have a tendancy to say things without any references and if you ask then you're accused of being a wahaabi!!! To the guy who wrote the above: I asked an innocent question as I wanted to learn, how exactly did you come to the conclusion that I have something against the Lion of Allaah (as)??? If your argument is that Hazrat Ali (as) is ahlu bayt then so are Hazrat Bibi Faatimah (as), Hazrat Hassan (as), Hazrat Hussain (as) and 1400 years of the pure progeny of the best of creation (saw), may Allah raise all their ranks, so why will we not be asked about all??? Also in my very limited and little knowledge I know that numerous sahaabah and Lady Aisha (as) had 'conflicts' and even battles against Hazrat Ali, so does this mean they will fail this test and be sent to hell??? You should not be too judgemental of others when you do not know what is in their heart.. Love n Peace Brilliant post - how on earth does one draw this conclusion of someone being against the ahle-bayt? It's getting sickly..
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Waxing Gibbous
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Wanting2Learn (09.02.2010)
Zarb e Haidari (08.02.2010)
Bismillairahmaaniraheem
Here we go when someone praises Moula Ali (as) how does he degrade other Sahabas ? If someone praises the Holy Prophet (sawaw) how does he degrade other Prophets ? If someone praises the Holy Quran how does degrade the Torah Zabur Ingeel ? If someone praises Hz Gibraeel (as) how is he degrading other angels !.
If someone was praising his father how is he degrading his uncles ?. Moula Ali (as) is not only a Sahabi but part of the Ahle Bayt (as) part of Noor e Mustafa (sawaw).
It is exactly for this reason the angel will ask about Imam Ali (as) as many think they just only need to respect him just as an ordinary person.
Jazak Allah - Waslaam
Brother Sag-e-Darbar Jilaniour maulvis have a tendancy to say things without any references and if you ask then you're accused of being a wahaabi!!!
To the guy who wrote the above: I asked an innocentquestion as I wanted to learn, how exactly did you come to the conclusion that I have something against the Lion of Allaah (as)???
If your argument is that Hazrat Ali (as) is ahlu bayt then so are Hazrat Bibi Faatimah (as), Hazrat Hassan (as), Hazrat Hussain (as) and 1400 years of the pure progeny of the best of creation (saw), may Allah raise all their ranks, so why will we not be asked about all???
Also in my very limited and little knowledge I know that numerous sahaabah and Lady Aisha (as) had 'conflicts' and even battles against Hazrat Ali, so does this mean they will fail this test and be sent to hell???
You should not be too judgemental of others when you do not know what is in their heart..
Love n Peace
All these conflicts were political and they never had any hidden ill feelings (hypocrisy) about each other Do you think if those Sahaba Ikram (who had conflicts with Hazrat Ali) would ask about Hazrat Ali, they will say bad things about him? NO, Sahaba Ikram weren’t hypocrite.
About Sahaba Ikram, we (Ahle Sunnat) believe that whatever/with whom conflicts they had, all are Jannati (will go to heaven); they have already passed the entire test/all the test.
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The beloved sahaba are like shining stars and will no dought enter jannah.
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Waxing Gibbous
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Asif-63 (09.02.2010)
The beloved sahaba are like shining stars and will no dought enter jannah.
The only contribution to this thread would be a reference to the question in first post.
This post is not about Sahaba Ikram, their status or entry to Jannat.
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Wanting2Learn (08.02.2010)
My question: Is this from reliable ahlu sunnah sources or is this from shia sources? If it is from ahlu sunnah then why will people not be asked about their opinions towards the other esteemed sahaaba (companions of the Prophet (saw)) may Allaah raise all their ranks. Dear brothers and sitters please remain calm and always remember that not everyone shares your personal wisdom. People have a right to pose a valid question and even an objection. If you can’t reply in an academic and/or logical manner, then it’s better to remain silent. So, no name calling please! As some of our brothers have already stated, the statement can be substantiated from the classical era. Having said that, this topic is yet another example of how complicated Islam has become. It is literally impossible for an average human being to absorb all its super minor finesses. The Islamic faith has been extended beyond the realm of certainty. You have to believe “this” version or you will go to Hell! Will you be asked about Maula Ali (as) before you can enter Jannah? If Maula Ali (as) was not a known faculty would there still be a Jannah? Would Islam be around if Maula Ali (as) was not there? Can someone tell me why this question will be posed at the doorstep of Jannah? Doesn’t this actually mean constituting a new court after receiving a judgment form Allah Subhana Watala? Some of you might find these questions surprising but worry not as my intention is not to deprive or reject our common values. There is an authentic narration which teaches that we will be with those we love. So if we are asked it is to show pathway to a special section allocated for Hedari Malangs :) Ya Ali
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Ilahi bahaqe bani Fathima, ke bar qawl Imaa Kunni Khaatima, Agar Daawatam rad Kunni War Qabool, Manno Dast Damaane Aale Rasool
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Sayyiduna Aisha (salamullah alayhi) has nothing to do with. One cannot even think that she had any ill feeling towards Sayyiduna Ali (karramaAllahuwajhahu). When she did go out with an army asking for the qisas of Sayyiduna Uthman, she did rujoo / returned upon the Hadith which Hazrat Ali reminded her of, and that was it. (This is not the place to go through the details of this event). This was just one incident that occured in their lives and you cannot just show this as an example that reflects the entire relationship.In fact, in one narration Sayyiduna Aisha says to the Beloved Prophet of Allah (sallaAllahu 'alayhi wa aali wa sallam) that I know you love Hazrat Ali more than my father (Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddiq). So pleas be careful in assuming things, otherwise we can end up showing disrespect to the Sahaba Kiraam. Brother Desert Shaykh is spot on.
ei biradar chu 'aqibat khakast, khaak shawesh az ankei khaak shaweejarahat al-sinani laha'l-tiyamu ma yaltamu jarahat al-lisani
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Zarb e Haidari (08.02.2010)
Bismillairahmaaniraheem Here we go when someone praises Moula Ali (as) how does he degrade other Sahabas ? If someone praises the Holy Prophet (sawaw) how does he degrade other Prophets ? If someone praises the Holy Quran how does degrade the Torah Zabur Ingeel ? If someone praises Hz Gibraeel (as) how is he degrading other angels !. If someone was praising his father how is he degrading his uncles ?. Moula Ali (as) is not only a Sahabi but part of the Ahle Bayt (as) part of Noor e Mustafa (sawaw). It is exactly for this reason the angel will ask about Imam Ali (as) as many think they just only need to respect him just as an ordinary person. Jazak Allah - Waslaam Why are we making comparisons with others? Before the quoted post (above) no one even mentioned the Sahaba or whether it is right to praise some above others?
Spontaneous reactions sometimes signify an underlying insecurity. Is there a Hadith reinforcing the subject of the post?
Something really fundamental as this where a Muslim's fate is determined should be in our aqeedah books.
Can someone please provide a reference from one of the Classical books of Aqeedah. Shouldn't a fundamental belief such as this be mentioned in one of the Kalimas (fundametal articles of faith). We believe in the in the Oneness of Allah (Tawheed), Prophets/Messengers, Holy Books, Day of Judgement, Angels, Predestination.
Are there any other fundamental beliefs of Islam?
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الآية الرابعة قوله تعالى ( وقفوهم إنهم مسؤولون ) الصافات ٢٤ . أخرج الديلمي عن أبي سعيد الخدري أن النبي قال (وقفوهم إنهم مسؤولون عن ولاية علي ) . وكأن هذا هو مراد الواحدي بقوله روي في قوله تعالى ( وقفوهم إنهم مسؤولون ) أي عن ولاية علي وأهل البيت لأن الله أمر نبيه أن يعرف الخلق أنه لا يسألهم على تبليغ الرسالة أجرا إلا المودة في القربى والمعنى أنهم يسألون هل والوهم حق الموالاة كما أوصاهم النبي أم أضاعوها وأهملوها فتكون عليهم المطالبة والتبعة . انتهى
"The fourth verse is the saying of His, the Almighty: "And stop them, for they must be questioned", as-Safat 24 [37:24]. ad-Dailami [rahimahullah] has recorded from Abu Sa'id al-Khudri [radiyAllahu 'anhu] that verily the Prophet [sallallahu 'alaihi wa alihi wa sallam] said: "And stop them, for they must be questioned: regarding the Wilayah of 'Ali".
[In addition,] this is what al-Wahidi [1] meant in his statement which he narrated in regards to the saying of His, the Almighty: ""And stop them, for they must be questioned": regarding the Wilayah of 'Ali and the Ahl al-Bait because Allah has ordered His Prophet [sallallahu 'alaihi wa alihi wa sallam] to make it known to creation that verily He [Allah] will not ask them for any reward upon the propagation of the Prophet [tabligh ar-risalah] but [rather he will ask them about] the Mawaddah of al-Qurba...""
Taken from: ibn Hajar al-Haitami's famous refutation of Rawafid and Shi'ah titled "as-Sawaiq al-Muhriqah", page 88.
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[1] al-Wahidi: Asbab an-Nuzul of 'Ali ibn Ahmad al-Wahidi (d. 468/1075), the earliest scholar of the branch of the Quranic sciences known as Asbab an-Nuzul (i.e. the contexts and occasions of the revelation of the Quran). al-Wahidi and subsequent scholars aimed to collect and systemize information concerning all the known reasons and contexts for the revelation of particular Quranic verses.
Four things come not back: the spoken word, the sped arrow, the past life and the neglected opportunity.
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Salaam to allI meant no disrespect towards any companion of the beloved (saw) I simply asked an innocent question as I heard that there were battles between the sahaaba and many people were killed in these conflicts. I apologise if I said anything wrong as I have just started to learn about my religion and unlike all of you I know nothing, I have spent a lifetime doing wrong things and only want to better myself before I die. Thank you brother Tahir, you have cleared it up for me as I was also thinking the same, why will be questioned again after having had our judgement, but the way you have explained it, it makes sense. Love n Peace ALI IS MY MASTER
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