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Posted 14.06.2009 19:17:21


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Alhamdulillahi rabil aAlameen was-salātu was-salāmu aAlaikha Ya Sayyidi Ya RasulAllāhi sallallāhu 'alayhi wa-ālihī wa-sahbi ahli al-majdi qatibatin bahri al-samahi wa ahl al-judi wal-madadi

Asalām 'alaykum wa rahmatullāhi wa barakātuh

On the authority of my beloved Shaykh (q) I post the following:-
There has been a posting made on a website which was incorrectly attributed to the Shaykh of the Naqshbandi Tariqa, Khawajah Riaz Ahmad an-Naqshbandi (q), causing a lot of animosity and inappropriate comments that were subsequently made in relation to the Shaykh’s alleged command and instructions. Let it be known the Shaykh does not condone any action or postings made and attributed to him but are the responsibility of the respective authors who have used the name of the Shaykh without proper consultation or understanding the implications of the words used within their postings. Any website claiming to be officially representing the Shaykh or the Naqshbandi Tariqa is doing so without his authority, without his endorsement and often without his knowledge. The Shaykh categorically denies involvement with any website and further distances himself from any political agendas or stance that these sites attribute towards him.

The certain website used the name of the Shaykh in relation to yanabi.com regarding the use of forums, stating the “important notice” on the website is the command of the Shaykh and furthermore the site is officially representing the Shaykh. I would like to reiterate, the website is NOT the official site for the Shaykh nor for the Tariqa, Shaykh Riaz Ahmad (q) has no affiliation to absolutely ANY websites on the internet. If the developers of such sites are placing titles of “official” and "under supervision", they are doing so out of their own ignorance. Shaykh Riaz Ahmad (q) has never used yanabi.com or any other forum on the internet, thus is not in any position to comment on the use of such websites. His advice to his students was and is simple:- “Use your time constructively and productively to better yourself”. Those who use these words negatively in regards to yanabi.com or any other website do so out of their own whims and desires.

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Posted 15.06.2009 13:16:18


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The irony is that 'The Notice' appealed for everyone to stop using such websites because of the slander and mischief they create, yet in disparaging 'The Notice' and it's assumed authors, the 'Yanabi haters' thread was full of bedazzled people doing JUST that, creating mischeif and slander.

Everybody was so caught up in the drama, that they failed to engange their brain and be patient, completely ignoring that this 'Notice' was the handiwork of third party maligners or simply confused individuals again trying to dictate to others what we should be thinking, typical muslim mentality. 

We've all witnessed the ignominy of the Yanabi community in jumping on this so called official notice and then certain members even going onto other websites to stir more drama and continue to publicise the whole sorry affair!




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Posted 15.06.2009 14:56:12


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When Jilani Media first posted the 'official notice' I did stress the importance and need to verify making sure that these were the actual words of Sufi Saheb.

The siege mentality is unnecessary, scholars or forums are not being pursued but the topic at hand is.



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Posted 15.06.2009 15:33:54


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When Jilani Media first posted the 'official notice' I did stress the importance and need to verify making sure that these were the actual words of Sufi Saheb.


I did question its authenticity when I posted my initial presentation. Now let's not misconstrue anything.



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Posted 15.06.2009 15:41:20


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When Jilani Media first posted the 'official notice' I did stress the importance and need to verify making sure that these were the actual words of Sufi Saheb.

The siege mentality is unnecessary, scholars or forums are not being pursued but the topic at hand is.

 

The siege mentality is neccesary for some people because it gives them a feeling of power, as being a part in the sum gives them stregnth and power beyond what they could hope to ever attain on their own!

Though true for everyone, certain mureeds are riding  this bandwagon far harder than any sane and rational person would think suitable!




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Posted 15.06.2009 16:32:55


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I sent an email about a week ago to investigate the credibility of the notice, whether it was "official ". Here is the response...

Salaam

Sheikh Mohammed Al-Yaqoobi and Sheikh Hamza Yusuf have spoken out against the use of forums and blogs. there is an updated version of this notice containing references from the Quran and Hadith.

I spoke personally to Pir Sufi Riaz Ahmad Sahib before posting that notice. Too much has happened which has forced us to issue the notice. If you would like to discuss this further call me or visit the Luton khanqah where we can discuss this further, which is more appropriate than an exchange of emails or messages.

Hafiz Mohammed Yaqub

Allah knows best. Maybe he did speak to Sufi Riaz Sahib but he doesn't anywhere say he was told to put up the notice by him.




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Posted 15.06.2009 16:46:34


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I sent an email about a week ago to investigate the credibility of the notice, whether it was "official ". Here is the response...

Salaam

Sheikh Mohammed Al-Yaqoobi and Sheikh Hamza Yusuf have spoken out against the use of forums and blogs. there is an updated version of this notice containing references from the Quran and Hadith.

I spoke personally to Pir Sufi Riaz Ahmad Sahib before posting that notice. Too much has happened which has forced us to issue the notice. If you would like to discuss this further call me or visit the Luton khanqah where we can discuss this further, which is more appropriate than an exchange of emails or messages.

Hafiz Mohammed Yaqub

Allah knows best. Maybe he did speak to Sufi Riaz Sahib but he doesn't anywhere say he was told to put up the notice by him.

To Hafiz yaqub :-

Please provide a copy of this 'notice' that the ulema have published.

Also, who are 'us'? Are you a representative of Shaykh Riaz? Do you speak for them? Or simply surmising from your conversations, that Shaykh Riaz fully endorses the notice that you posted wrod for word?!

 




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Posted 15.06.2009 17:13:04


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I just received this text message:

"Salaam. I spoke to Shaykh Riaz Ahmad yesterday, he categorically denied speaking against yanabi.com or Qiblah Shah sb, the student who put the remarks on his own website has been told to remove not only the comments but his entire website. The Shaykh is honestly disgusted and appaled by such slander."



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Posted 15.06.2009 22:44:24


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Here is the original notice:
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"A Polite Request and a Warning to all Sunni Muslims

There has been much commotion and accusation in the past few months as to where certain Sunni Muslims and Scholars stand in relation to the Aqaid of the Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah. There has been a lot of slander against our honourable tariqah and against certain illustrious Mashaykh from users on a certain website.

All Naqshbandi Aslami (Arshadi and Asghari also) brothers and sisters are commanded by his eminence Hazrat Khwajah Pir Sufi Riaz Ahmed Aslami to cease immediately your membership and participation in ANY of these forums. Sunni brothers and Sisters are advised not to participate in ANY forums especially the forum on 'www.yanabi.com'. These forums are a place of mischief, slander, lies, blasphemy, heretical statements and untruths.

The Ulemah have issued a clear fatwa forbidding these forums as they can cause gumrahi (misguidance). Protect your iman and avoid these forums.

If you are a true of divine knowledge sit in the company of the Shuyukh and Ulemah as opposed to seeking the opinions of charlatans and petulant children masquerading as scholars."
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Here is the new version taken from the very same website [here]:
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"A Polite Request and a Warning to all Sunni Muslims

There has been much commotion and accusation in the past few months as to where certain Sunni Muslims and Scholars stand in relation to the Aqaid of the Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah. There has been a lot of slander against our honourable tariqah and against certain illustrious Mashaykh from users on a certain website.

All Naqshbandi Aslami (Arshadi and Asghari also) brothers and sisters are commanded to cease immediately your membership and participation in ANY of these forums. Sunni brothers and Sisters are advised not to participate in ANY forums especially the forum on 'www.yanabi.com'. These forums are a place of mischief, slander, lies, blasphemy, heretical statements and untruths.

The Ulemah have issued a clear fatwa forbidding these forums (see below) as they can cause gumrahi (misguidance). Protect your iman and avoid these forums.

If you are a true seeker of divine knowledge sit in the company of the Shuyukh and Ulemah as opposed to seeking the opinions of charlatans and petulant children masquerading as scholars.

We at naqshbandi.org.uk will not engage in retaliatory posts or make any responsive comments. If any brothers and sisters have any concerns than feel welcome to call or email the Khanqah."



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