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The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) send muadh to yemen and said that you are going to the place of the people of the book. the first thing that you call them with is Yuwahiddullah (meaning, the Oneness of Allah). tell your friend the same thing, that Allah is the only one who deserves to be worship.
Or to make it easy for you, have her read my article.
Lets tell people about Islam - http://linuses.blogspot.com - If you have a blog/website please create a link to it so that it would reach more people. May Allah reward you.
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Walaikum Assalam sis Zarqa, yes i am a new learner of islam but it does not mean that if a person is asking for some dua then i shouldnt tell her and if she is getting peace in her and asking for another dua then it is wrong to give her some dua.isnt it Mr AKA I never commmented to the above, and I would say now its a praiseworthy act. My whole argument lies in the concept of dawah. I know some of the people who are involved in dawah islami work .they are also in learning process like me but i couldnt continue with them as they are wahabi or deobandi.they go to the picnik spot and resturants and parks to invite people towards islam.some of them fail and some of them get success in converting people into isalm. Thats the main concerns. So when they just started to learn Islam, there being trained to be 'nice' to people just because you have something in mind you want to achiev. This is also seen in the case when people's worship to Allah is based upon them reaping rewards for it in this life. This is common amongst any sects and not necessary the ones you mentioned above. Where does the concept of humanity, mercy and sincerity fall into this? Do they actually feel things they say from heart or is just memorizing some lines to attract people. The Islam they present, did it really mould there character yet? yes i am a new learner but i will not always be a new learner and until and unless i will not take step then how would i come to know that what quetions which non muslim put before muslim before accepting islam.and unless i will not get the questions how will i find the answer of that.and unless i will not find the answer then how will i learn islam. Ok think it this way as well, how come so far you haven't asked such questions when born as a muslim and furthermore, what is the garuntee you know the rights answers to these questions? Unless and until you don't PRACTICE islam, what was the whole purpose of finding the answers you talk about and how would your friend look into something when the preacher itself might not be upto it or even not bothered? i believe , try and try untill you succeed and i will keep on trying to learn islam till i am alive. I pray that may you find success my dear sister, although my advice would be don't stay a learner for your whole life! sometime my friend and i talk about islam and hinduism then i put some question before her,she does not give answers and become quite,i give her examples which is given in Quran sometime she become answerless and think over that topic but according to you i should not say anything about islam because i am new learner,isnt it.Mr AKAaaaa I hope I was clear on what I meant and what I didn't. JazakAllah khairan for understanding, forgive this brother of yours if I hurt your feelings by any utterence. May Allah give us all hidayah to His path. Ameen
I had no knowledge of bowing (Ruku). What did I know about prostration? Was I in search of your footprints or was I prostrating in prayer..Strange is my life and my servitude
Wherever I found your footprints I made it my direction
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AKA786 (09.06.2009)
Assalamu alaikum, Just a quick question for all, is it wise to start dawah to non-muslims when you just started learning the basics yourself? This is different from giving guidance to muslims on their deen, if you get my point. Nothing personal meant here. Salaam Mr AKA yes i get ur point,nothing personal meant here.i know what are you trying to say. yes i am a new learner of islam but it does not mean that if a person is asking for some dua then i shouldnt tell her and if she is getting peace in her and asking for another dua then it is wrong to give her some dua.isnt it Mr AKA I know some of the people who are involved in dawah islami work .they are also in learning process like me but i couldnt continue with them as they are wahabi or deobandi.they go to the picnik spot and resturants and parks to invite people towards islam.some of them fail and some of them get success in converting people into isalm. yes i am a new learner but i will not always be a new learner and until and unless i will not take step then how would i come to know that what quetions which non muslim put before muslim before accepting islam.and unless i will not get the questions how will i find the answer of that.and unless i will not find the answer then how will i learn islam. i believe , try and try untill you succeed and i will keep on trying to learn islam till i am alive. that hindu girl may not accept islam but atleast i should tell her about islam.whatever i know about islam. sometime my friend and i talk about islam and hinduism then i put some question before her,she does not give answers and become quite,i give her examples which is given in Quran sometime she become answerless and think over that topic but according to you i should not say anything about islam because i am new learner,isnt it.Mr AKAaaaa Wassalam
Assalato Wassalamo Alaika Yarasool Allah, Sallalaho Alaihi Wa Alaihi Wasalllam
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[b]Sister Nur Yes but the same Sai Baba also celebrated diwali, and permitted the worshiping of idols, let females wash his legs for him, let people prostrate to him etc etc dear sis nur this may be true but i dont think that indian news channel will show this news on TV.why they will make some hindu a muslim showing someone a muslim to a hindu is not joke in india. he might have done all these as you said but he might be changed after accepeting islam.
Assalato Wassalamo Alaika Yarasool Allah, Sallalaho Alaihi Wa Alaihi Wasalllam
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Than the examples (help crossing road) you used to explain dawah (as an invitation) are not related whatsoever and thus your initial argument is not backed about dawah being obligatory. Seems like you have read as an article once rather than research a bit. JazakAllah khairan for understanding.Why do people thing everything as debate :P its you who started it than :)
I had no knowledge of bowing (Ruku). What did I know about prostration? Was I in search of your footprints or was I prostrating in prayer..Strange is my life and my servitude
Wherever I found your footprints I made it my direction
Adhrikni Ya RasoolAllah (sallalahu alaihi wasalam)
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Brother you are correct - Allah may use us as tools for bringing someone to Islam and converting them, but whether someone becomes a Muslim or now is not in our hands.
Da'wah, دعوة = invitation , it is the same Arabic word as if you give someone an invitation to a birthday party or whatever.
I don't really want to carry on now lol, I've already said what I wanted to, jazakum Allahu khayrn wassalaamu alaykum.
محمد بشر لا كالبشر Muhammad is a man, not like man بل هو كالياقوت بين الحجر Nay, truly! He is like a ruby amongst stones...
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But then its not explicitly stated as an obligation, and the things you pointed out is defined by a better word as Allah azzawajal mentions in Holy Quran, that We have sent You (sallalhu alaihi wasaalm) as a mercy to mankind. The purpose of dawah as you pointed out ultimately leads to converting someone if I don't get it wrong? However, the objectives of shariah in a summary is not to tell you how to convert, our purpose is not to convert since this domain lies with Allah azzawajal. The obejectives are summarised by two words, mercy and guidance (summarised by Shaykh Haytham Tamim).
I had no knowledge of bowing (Ruku). What did I know about prostration? Was I in search of your footprints or was I prostrating in prayer..Strange is my life and my servitude
Wherever I found your footprints I made it my direction
Adhrikni Ya RasoolAllah (sallalahu alaihi wasalam)
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AKA786 (10.06.2009)
da'wah is obligatory upon us all
I would beg to differ, I have seen some of such mindset and basically they have no clue what they are talking about. They have no whatsoever gentleness in character and my muslim friends (who are practicing) said they won't approach them. The only thing they have been taught is possibly just convert and gain jannah.
From practical point of view, this shouldn't be the case. Everyone would end up sort of speaking on whims rather than what is commanded. Remember, when delegations were sent to non-muslim countries in the early eras it was just selective people and a letter which included the main invitation and the sahabah,who presented the letter, wasjust supposed to answer questions/queries if I remember correctly. Please do educate me.
But you see bro, da'wah is not preaching or debating necessarily, and herein lies the mistake of too many and therefore a lot of people, as you described, actually alienate more people than they bring to Islam.
Da'wah doesn't have to take knowledge and skill with words - it can be as simple as a Hijabi helping an old lady cross the road, or a Muslim man doing the shopping for his neighbour.
Remember the countless narrations of our beloved (peace and blessings upon him), and his kindness to those who showed enmity to Islam. Was this not da'wah? So yes, I strongly believe da'wah is necessary for every man and woman, according to their abilities and Allah knows best about us all.
محمد بشر لا كالبشر Muhammad is a man, not like man بل هو كالياقوت بين الحجر Nay, truly! He is like a ruby amongst stones...
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da'wah is obligatory upon us all I would beg to differ, I have seen some of such mindset and basically they have no clue what they are talking about. They have no whatsoever gentleness in character and my muslim friends (who are practicing) said they won't approach them. The only thing they have been taught is possibly just convert and gain jannah. From practical point of view, this shouldn't be the case. Everyone would end up sort of speaking on whims rather than what is commanded. Remember, when delegations were sent to non-muslim countries in the early eras it was just selective people and a letter which included the main invitation and the sahabah, who presented the letter, was just supposed to answer questions/queries if I remember correctly. Please do educate me.
I had no knowledge of bowing (Ruku). What did I know about prostration? Was I in search of your footprints or was I prostrating in prayer..Strange is my life and my servitude
Wherever I found your footprints I made it my direction
Adhrikni Ya RasoolAllah (sallalahu alaihi wasalam)
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AKA786 (09.06.2009) Assalamu alaikum,
Just a quick question for all,is it wiseto start dawah to non-muslimswhen you just started learning the basics yourself?This is different fromgivingguidance to muslims on their deen, if you get my point.Nothing personal meant here.
Wa alaykum assalaam,
The way I see it, da'wah is obligatory upon us all - even if our da'wah is shown through our good character.. or perhaps taking somebody to a knowledgeable person, or buying somebody a book. All of this can be da'wah, and we are accountable if we fail to fulfill this!
Interesting question though, I imagine it is a frequent excuse amongst people who are trying to be humble. That sounded a bit harsh, but you know what I mean!
محمد بشر لا كالبشر Muhammad is a man, not like man بل هو كالياقوت بين الحجر Nay, truly! He is like a ruby amongst stones...
[[...in need of your du'a for the Mercy of Allah (exams results/dunya/akhirah)]]
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