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 Posted 10.06.2009 01:17:55
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salaam, jus look at one thing... who are you prayin namaaz for? den all matters should be solved inshaAllah :)


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 Posted 20.06.2009 04:36:36
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nizamvaid (10.06.2009)
salaam, jus look at one thing... who are you prayin namaaz for? den all matters should be solved inshaAllah :)


i apologise if i sound rude, i dont mean to be...

My friend when i was telling him all the different rulings (like how we cant pray behind a wahabi, rolling your trousers, the conditions of ghusls etc) and he said exact the same thing...

so my question is if Allah has commanded you to do something one way then no matter how clean your intention is but if you do it the wrong way Allah will not like it..

for example:
1. Pig is haraam for us but what if some one "killed it Islamic way" would it become lawful for us? NO...
2. If in namaz you are supposed to do two sajdahs, but because you are so much devoted to ALlah and want to please him extra so you make 3 or 4 or more sajdahs then your intention may be good but your prayer is not valid....

Everything has their own rulings like I said previously so you have to do things keeping in mind the conditions/restrictions placed on you..



Now my question on this topic is:
How come when you fold your trousers, it is considered that you are wearing it inside out when majority of your cloth (ie trouser) is the right way? shouldnt majority count..

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 Posted 01.07.2009 19:17:54
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What about shirt collars? Does that not come under 'folded' clothes?


anyone?

anyone?




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Kab woh chahenge meri hashr mein rusvaai ho

Dil mein ho yaad teri gosha e tanhaai ho

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 Posted 01.07.2009 20:43:26
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Aslamoalaikum

Shirt collars are designed to be folded and are not inside out but the right way round. Folding the bottom of your trousers entails turning them inside out and is messy, same would apply to folding sleeves.

W'asalam


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 Posted 01.07.2009 21:13:04
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Mohammed `Ridh'waan (09.06.2009)
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I once told a bawa that folding his trousers is Makrooh-e-Tehreemi, making it Wajib to repeat his Salah.

What is the evidence and reasoning behind something being disliked making it Wajib to repeat the prayer, therefore deducing from this that the prayer must be invalid or something similar?




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 Posted 01.07.2009 22:55:00
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Assalamu alaikum, the concerned hadith was quoted in the first page

Ibn Abbas (radiAllahu anhu) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (sallAllahu alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam) said, "I was commanded to prostrate myself on the seven [bones] and forbidden to fold back hair and clothing. [The seven bones are] forehead, nose, hands, knees and feet." (Sahih Muslim: Book 4, Number 995)

The ruling is derived in fiqh from the above hadith, as Nabi Kareem sallalahu alaihi wasalam has explicitly forbidden it so it is been categorized as being disliked greatly (makroohe tehreemi). Although I am no expert on fiqh, but thats how I understood it.



I had no knowledge of bowing (Ruku). What did I know about prostration? Was I in search of your footprints or was I prostrating in prayer..Strange is my life and my servitude

Wherever I found your footprints I made it my direction

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 Posted 05.07.2009 22:29:27
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Is not 'Faraz Rabbani' a Deobandi? (I have witnessed a lot of Deobandi's fold their trousers before prayer)

Shaykh Faraz is a Hanafi scholar, of taqwa and sincerity. Brelwe extremists, like yourself, could learn a lot from following the example of Sunni Arab ulema.

Deobandi extremists, are just like you. Kind of in your own nutshell. It's been 100 years of this fitna, looks like another 100 years will be the exact same. 

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[quote]truth finder (04.06.2009)
Is not 'Faraz Rabbani' a Deobandi? (I have witnessed a lot of Deobandi's fold their trousers before prayer)

Only one sentnece for you if you understand, if not its your fate:

Mohammad (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) se mohabbat hai Deen-e-Haq ki shart-e-awwal. Isi mein agar hai kami, To sab kuchh hai namukammal.

Regarding Arab scholars - who know the true face of Deo-bandi(t)s they do stay away from them. And if they dont, cleary we (Barelvi extremists as per you) will not consider them Sunni. All Sunnipath scholars are sold out to Ikhwanis and are no more than puppets. They are so reluctant to declare even the Shias as non-Muslims. And the second part of your quote, we have been fighting Munafiqs not from hundred years but over 14 hundred years now and InshaAllah will continue to do so until the last of us are alive (till Qiyamath), just like Maula Ali fought the Kharijites.

Shakey Faraz has studied under deo Mufti (so called) Taqi Usmani, isnt this self=explanatory.




"Call unto the Way of Thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching"
(SURAH 16: AAYAT 125)

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Jab Nabi Mushkil Kusha hon (salallahu alaihi wasallam)

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 Posted 24.08.2009 15:21:03
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we have been fighting Munafiqs not from hundred years but over 14 hundred years now and InshaAllah will continue to do so until the last of us are alive (till Qiyamath), just like Maula Ali fought the Kharijites.

Ameen




1 Fatwa of Ala Hazrat Imam Ahmad Raza Khan r.a is enough for me -  all Fatwas written to the contrary, that is in support of the 'Ulama-e-Deoband are not even worth the paper they are written to me!

(taken from a quote by Brother Jilani Media)

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 Posted 24.08.2009 16:23:20
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This is out of topic, but yes it is true that there are SOME extremist Barelwi's, and on the other hand there "maybe" some MODERATE Deobandis aswell.

One example would be, who doesn't know what Allama Hashmi miyan thinks of Alahazrat and DEOBANDIS, but then in an Interview he said it is permissible to differ from Alaharat, and this is what he gets:



EXTREMISM is bad, whether it comes from Barelwi's, Deobandis or Najdi's.

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Do good deeds properly, sincerely and moderately. . .Always adopt a middle, moderate, regular course, whereby you will reach your target (of paradise)." - Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 8, Hadith 470



Hazrat Ali(kaw) said: "Two types of people shall perish concerning me: a hater who forges lies about me, and a lover who over-praises me."
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 Posted 24.08.2009 18:11:55
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SO WHAT IS THE NUTSHELL


YA HAYU YA QAYUUM
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