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Salam-u-alaikum,'Namaz' itself form of yoga, says Deoband cleric
29 Jan 2009, 0159 hrs IST, PTI | | | | | NEW DELHI: Performing yoga is not un-Islamic as offering 'namaz' is also a form of the practice, leading seminary Darul Uloom on Wednesday said rubbishing the controversy over the issue. "Yoga is not a problem in Islam, but giving a religious colour to it is wrong," said Adil Siddiqui, spokesperson of Darul Uloom Deoband, India's leading Islamic seminary. He said the purpose of the practice is to keep a person healthy and there is no provision in the religion that prevents anybody from seeking good health, he said. "The purpose of yoga is simple that is to maintain good health and it can always be performed for the sake of exercise," he said. The cleric said Islam also gives health a major priority and the practise of offering 'namaz' or Islamic prayer is itself a form of exercise. "If you observe closely 'namaz', which every Muslim is expected to perform five times a day, is itself a sort of yoga and plays an important role in keeping a person healthy," he said. The debate over whether Muslims can perform yoga, started last year after Malaysia's top Islamic body, the National Fatwa Council, imposed a ban on it, saying that it combines elements of physical exercise and chanting of religious mantras. Earlier this week, Indonesia's top Islamic body also passed an edict banning Muslims from practicing yoga citing concerns it would corrupt their faith. It is time now to spread this message of deobandies to as far as possible to every deobandies including the famous tablighis who have sworn to rid Islam of all biddati and mushrik practices and restore the Sunnah. Namaaz is a type of a yoga Slap on the face of such guardians of the Sunnah. |
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Who are the “Top Deobandiis” you speak of? All I’ve read is a message from a “Spokesperson”
I’m sorry I don’t take things at face value, so if you please, quote me some well-known Deobandi scholars who have approved this. Also keep in mind, I am not saying you are wrong, I’d just like more proof.
Ohh yeah, and lets not turn this topic into Deobandi bashing session, I think we have enough of people yelling “KUFR! SHIRK! BIDAH!” already.
Wasalaam
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Mujaahid (29.01.2009) Who are the “Top Deobandiis” you speak of? All I’ve read is a message from a “Spokesperson”
what is the meaning of "spokesperson"? Who is he a spokesperson for ? Surely not himself? PS Isnt the imitation of the pratices of another religion also forbidden?
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(Translation: In spiritual exaltation, if anyone can achieve the status of "Bu-Turaab" [Imam Ali], then he will be able to cause the sun to rise from the West. )
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| Salam dear brothers, I myself am a sunni by akida. But only sunniyat does not make every sunni always correct. We need to have an open mind and knowledge before judging about anything. I have knowledge about yoga. I am doing it since last 25 years. Infact, if we care a bit more about our namaz, than we can attract these people who are running after YOGA crazily,(I mean the western people and also the hindus) towards islam. Just take a good example (It may help you brothers and sisters too, sometime in future if you come across some person in conversation about this topic) One of the best yogas is ASTHANGASANA. There are others too like Shirshasana, vruschikasana etc. ASTH-ANG-ASANA --> Asth = eight(8), ANG = body and ASANA = body position(exercise) ASTHANGASANA means a body position in which 8 parts of body are used to do an exercise. Now consider SAJDA(SUJUD). In it, ALHAMDULILLAH, we touch our eight body parts on ground (1)forehead, (2)nose, (3)two palms, (4)two knees, (5)two feet, --> so total becomes 8 body parts. So do we become a kafir? Our SAJADAH is their Asthangasana. Now just imgine, if ASTHANGASANA is one of the best asanas, than we are performing this asana almost 100 times in a day. HOW? We pray 5 farz namaz in a day and total RAKATS of all 5 namaz including farz, sunnat, vittar and nawafils is 48 rakat. Now in each rakat we make two SAJADAH, so two Asthangasana, so total 48 x 2 = 96 (almost 100) Now if we explain this to hindus and other westerners who are very interested in yoga than dont you think they will be attracted towards ISLAM ? InshaALLAH they will be. YOGA is only an exercise but it has been intentionally and professionally adopted by hindus while religiously and unintentionally adopted by muslims. I dont care which yoga helps more or which helps less. What I am interested in is that what our beloved prophet Mohammed (SAWS) has told us to do, pray five times in a specific manner, thats it. Hindus have added mantras and shlokas of their religion into it and thats how they are even propagating their religion. Once I attended a course in yoga. The teacher was a sikh and mostly the pupils were hindus and only I was muslim. That guru told to sit in a position of yoga and chant mantras and shlokas to all. BUT AS HE KNEW I AM A MUSLIM, HE PERSONALLY TOLD ME TO CHANT WHATEVER I CAN OF MY RELIGION THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. According to the big gurus of yoga, chanting a perticular mantra or shloka is not important and similarly praying to a particular god or goddess is also not important. What is important according to these yoga gurus is to acquire a good perfect body position and to chant something in which we have interest and faith, so that it can help us have concentration and self confidence. THAN IMAGINE WHERE THE WHOLE LOT WAS CHANTING LOUDLY THEIRE HINDU MANTRAS, I WAS ALONE CHANTING *LA ILAHA ILLALLAH MUHAMMADURRASULALLAH* and *ALLAHU AKBAR* AND OFCOURSE LOUDLY JUST LIKE THEM. and I really enjoyed it. ALHAMDULILLAH. Why shouhldn't we accpet yoga and infact mould it in our islamic format and have islamic yoga ? Where in we can make people do RUKU' and SUJUD and TASAHHUD etc. and make them chant our holy kalimas. Please let me know if my thinking is wrong . and better you people be polite and open minded to answer. I dont need any direct fatawas on me. May ALLAH guide us all on to the right path. Aamin.
A muslim in quest for gaining more and more islamic knowldege.
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Brother Imran, for all we know this so called "spokesperson" could be Tom from down the street or Sikhandar sahib from the local Gurdwara. Like i stated in my previous post, i do not take things at face value, more so now, since the media is portrayed as it is.
The brother posted something, all I'm asking is for some more evidence regarding what is being said. He was the one who posted it, so i believe I have the right to ask him for it. If not, i urge you not to post such articles without SUFFICIENT evidence. Blindly posting articles isn't exactly going to benefit anyone.
PS: I noticed the topic title has been changed as well as some of the original post...
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Mujaahid (30.01.2009) Brother Imran, for all we know this so called "spokesperson" could be Tom from down the street or Sikhandar sahib from the local Gurdwara.Yeah he could be,but he's not, as adil siddique seems to be quite a notable spokemans for that seminary (occupying position of media in charge) these days. Check it out from anyone associated with that seminary.
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(Translation: In spiritual exaltation, if anyone can achieve the status of "Bu-Turaab" [Imam Ali], then he will be able to cause the sun to rise from the West. )
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| yoga is for women, or those over the age of 95. It is better for you to partake in true martial arts styles such as those developed by mas Oyama etc.
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| Dear brother Faraz, Thanks for your suggestion, but ALHAMDULILLAH I am already a brown belt in martial arts in GOZURIYU style. I have practised karate for 6 years but now I find that yoga is better. Anyway, you better come to the main point and I again say, dont post without proper knowledge and thinking. May ALLAH give guidance to all of us to remain on the straight path and behave properly and maturedly, Aamin, Summa Aamin
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| Furthermore, for dear FARAZ, Martial arts is again a type of exercise which has been adopted especially by buddhists as it was developed by buddhist monks who wanted to meditate in jungles(forests) and they used these types of martial arts for their self defence as well as meditation. Martial arts was actually invented in India but later developed in China and Japan. Regarding YOGA, if you people are aware than you might be knowing that not some stupid people have invented ROCK YOGA(wherein they play ROCK music with YOGA), and also NAKED YOGA(ASTAGFIRULLAH). Now if idiots can develop such stupid things than shouldn't we develop an ISLAMIC YOGA. May be INSHAALLAH one day I will develop it. Aamin.
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shakirkhan (31.01.2009)
Furthermore, for dear FARAZ, Martial arts is again a type of exercise which has been adopted especially by buddhists as it was developed by buddhist monks who wanted to meditate in jungles(forests) and they used these types of martial arts for their self defence as well as meditation. Martial arts was actually invented in India but later developed in China and Japan. Regarding YOGA, if you people are aware than you might be knowing that not some stupid people have invented ROCK YOGA(wherein they play ROCK music with YOGA), and also NAKED YOGA(ASTAGFIRULLAH). "Now if idiots can develop such stupid things than shouldn't we develop an ISLAMIC YOGA" May be INSHAALLAH one day I will develop it. Aamin. How True, May Allah Taa'ala give you all the strenght & will to do so, we lack people who think with a Clear Head, sadly but true, we make a mess of everything rather then working to get the Best for ourselves even i heard that One Yoga Teacher, Ramdev Baba, when he got the news of Malaysia banning Yoga for being Un Islamic said that one can practise Yoga for Health, & instead of chanting Hindu Mantras can say Islamic thing,
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