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 Posted 06.08.2009 13:46:30
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Faraz Hassan (17.12.2008)
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What exactely do you mean if you say they became corrupted? I always thought the christians followed the word of Isa (pbuh)- is Isa (pbuh) has always been a muslim, his word would be the word of Islam...So christians also follow the word of Islam?:ermm: Sorry don't understand...:ermm:


By corrupted we mean that the original teachings of Jesus (pbuh) have been lost over time, and as a result today’s followers who claim to follow Christ heed to something not originally preached by Christ.

That is not to say however, that the entire Bible is false. There are many truths in it that have not been corrupted. However, what constitutes as the original bible and teachings of Christ are impossible to distinguish because the original manuscripts have perished, and not a single word preached by Christ was written down during his lifetime. The oldest fragments of the bible all contradict one another.

As a result in Christendom you have hundreds of sects and denominations, and perhaps thousands of “versions” of the bible. The schism is so great that Christians cannot even agree on the fundamentals such as the nature of God and Christ.

Muslims believe that mankind has been guided thorough prophets, and the prophetic lifestyle is the only lifestyle by which one may attain peace with his/her creator. However, today the only acceptable way to your lord is Islam.

People who attempt to follow the example of prophets before Muhammad (peace be upon him), ie mosses and Jesus , are in a very difficult position indeed. The sincere among them wish to worship Allah, however it is impossible for them to do so in the way Allah has indicated that he is to be worshiped. This is because the books their prophets were given are either corrupted or lost, and because prophetic lifestyle of those particular prophets has vanished.

This naturally implies that the people who still attempt to follow the way of these prophets today, will never gain true knowledge of Allah, because the way to this knowledge is only via prophetic guidance and lifestyle, as personified by the prophet whom Allah had chosen.

However, as stated earlier, if this prophetic lifestyle has been forgotten, and if the teaching itself is has been lost by having it changed, then it is impossible to follow the original life pattern of the prophet concerned or his original teaching.

Therefore knowledge of Allah, is not possible, by heeding to these distorted and corrupted "teachings". It follows that the only acceptable way to follow today is Islam. Prophet Muhammadis the most well documented Prophet in history, so his teachings are with us. And the Quran today is exactly how it was 1400 years ago.

In "reality, there is only one REALITY, that is Allah. In this life, there are only are two things. Kufr and iman The one who tries to follow the way of a prophet whose teachings have been lost, is somewhere in between these two opposites. They are lost, wandering blindly. Allah tells us that creation was created to worship Him. because our reason for existence is worship of Allah, the body of a person who is "lost" affirms the one reality (Allah), but because he or she is not following a guidance which is still intact, it follows that only some of his or her actions are truly worthwhile . Hence, a lost persons understanding of what he or she is doing, and understanding of Allah, in invariably incomplete and distorted.

The lost include the Christians, who now worship jesusand equal him to Allah.

Muslims are the closest people to Jesus (pbuh), and Christians are furthest away from him. In fact, we offer salah exactly the same way prophets do in the Bible - even jesus.

When I have time, I will post that. Itis very interesting.




The original text of The Bible (Codex Sinaiticus) has been found in 19-th century and it`s even avaliable to read today,and it has been checked out by scientists.The examinations reveals,that there`s no differences between Codex Sinaiticus and The Bible from 19-th century.

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 Posted 06.08.2009 13:51:15
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I will now revert back to my reclusive self; for reasons that should be self evident to any outside observer having read your response.

I wish you all the best.

Prophet Jesus son of Hazrat Mariam will return, and If he returns in our lifetimeI pray that the both of us are on his side.




Faraz Hassan,what do you expect me to answer,if you have written that what you have written? Shall I make a nuisance of myself? I know I was not going to annoy anyone.I also wish you to go to Allah after your time.

Hi Jenny,

I have beenreading your replies and I realised that you Cannot Reply due to your lack of proof and lack of knowledge on both sides. Better you learn more about what you follow and read the replies with your eyes and mind open and think for yourself instead of just replying for the sake of replying.

We are ready to help Inshallah.



By the way,I`m able to prove every sentence which I`ve written about Christianity,with verses from The Bible.

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 Posted 06.08.2009 14:34:40
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Jenny (06.08.2009)

The original text of The Bible (Codex Sinaiticus) has been found in 19-th century and it`s even avaliable to read today,and it has been checked out by scientists.The examinations reveals,that there`s no differences between Codex Sinaiticus and The Bible from 19-th century.


Hi.

I heard that the King James' bible has had 5 major revisions. Are you talking about a different edition? How many editions are there in total?

Thanks



Edited: 06.08.2009 14:35:42 by New Leaf
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Jenny (06.08.2009)
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I will now revert back to my reclusive self; for reasons that should be self evident to any outside observer having read your response.

I wish you all the best.

Prophet Jesus son of Hazrat Mariam will return, and If he returns in our lifetimeI pray that the both of us are on his side.




Faraz Hassan,what do you expect me to answer,if you have written that what you have written? Shall I make a nuisance of myself? I know I was not going to annoy anyone.I also wish you to go to Allah after your time.

Hi Jenny,

I have beenreading your replies and I realised that you Cannot Reply due to your lack of proof and lack of knowledge on both sides. Better you learn more about what you follow and read the replies with your eyes and mind open and think for yourself instead of just replying for the sake of replying.

We are ready to help Inshallah.



By the way,I`m able to prove every sentence which I`ve written about Christianity,with verses from The Bible.

 

For now everyone who read your replies know what you can prove and what not. Bible is not hidden from general public as it use to be, better you think before making any comment.

 

 No Iam not trying to teach you because I know you are not ready to learn.


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 Posted 07.08.2009 18:45:40
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Ashiq -e- Rasool (06.08.2009)
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Jenny (05.08.2009)
Faraz Hassan (05.08.2009)

I will now revert back to my reclusive self; for reasons that should be self evident to any outside observer having read your response.

I wish you all the best.

Prophet Jesus son of Hazrat Mariam will return, and If he returns in our lifetimeI pray that the both of us are on his side.




Faraz Hassan,what do you expect me to answer,if you have written that what you have written? Shall I make a nuisance of myself? I know I was not going to annoy anyone.I also wish you to go to Allah after your time.

Hi Jenny,

I have beenreading your replies and I realised that you Cannot Reply due to your lack of proof and lack of knowledge on both sides. Better you learn more about what you follow and read the replies with your eyes and mind open and think for yourself instead of just replying for the sake of replying.

We are ready to help Inshallah.



By the way,I`m able to prove every sentence which I`ve written about Christianity,with verses from The Bible.

For now everyone who read your replies know what you can prove and what not. Bible is not hidden from general public as it use to be, better you think before making any comment.

No Iam not trying to teach you because I know you are not ready to learn.




Better if you don`t comment who is ready to learn in your opinion,because saying so you give an opinion only about yourself.

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 Posted 07.08.2009 19:07:45
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The original text of The Bible (Codex Sinaiticus) has been found in 19-th century and it`s even avaliable to read today,and it has been checked out by scientists.The examinations reveals,that there`s no differences between Codex Sinaiticus and The Bible from 19-th century.


Hi.

I heard that the King James' bible has had 5 major revisions. Are you talking about a different edition? How many editions are there in total?

Thanks



What Muslims have with this King James? Going to prove,that The Bible is false,by King James? My advice for you is,to look into Lutheran Bible from 1975.

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Sons and daughters of Almighty, Bless Him!

Peace to you brothers and sisters,

Pride is a serious dent in our armor. Pride blinds man from sight. It deafens man to voice.
MAN is incapable of sustaining anything written or spoken. Their pride made them deaf, and their pride made them blind!
Our prophets of Almighty have brought forth to us many beautiful and enlightening teachings. But make no mistake, NO Scripture perfectly translated. It is the combined Divinity of the WORD that is perfect of God!


GOD is GOD! We call Him Almighty! We call Him I Elohim! We call him Allah! We call Him Creator! He is our God! The One Almighty Creator Allah GOD!


His words are His words! Nowhere in Torah, Holy Bible, or Q'raan do any of our forefathers condemn or deny each others dogma, or practice of our Faith!
But we find it IMPOSSIBLE not to!
Pride is OUR dent!

Our prophets were perfect. Clean before Almighty God!

But we must feel compelled to rebuke!


Our division will soon be closed by two!
The first will bring DEATH and Almighty's perfect justice, and the Second will bring Life, eternal and abundant.
Please hold fast to Almighty, I want to embrace you in The Prince's Kingdom!!



Praise and exalt Him above all forever!Amen Amen Amen



We pledge alliegiance to Elohim,
and to Christ our Lord and King,
and to His true mercy at which we live,
humble servants under God,
with faith,hope, and love for all!
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